Hermenegild

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I have changed requiredAnswers to 11 and after a while it's quite challenging to prevent all girls from graduating, so I'd start with that.

That said, I have a crash to report. After a few weeks the game crashes with the following backtrace:
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Savegame attached.
 
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josie

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good start to a game, very fun :) A few suggestions which most of which have already been said:

1. Ability to view stats and have a better idea which option to choose
2. A bit less randomness will make raising or lowering stats more of a goal
3. Character stats which improve odds
4. More content / randomness in scenes
5. Perhaps once you achieve creampie when they retest, they don't bother answering the questions, etc - or some sort of an end goal to where you can call them at night and they aren't included in the tests any more
 

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Could use a bit more personalization. Adding faces and actual identities to the girls would be a big plus.

Add some unique dialogue lines coded to be linked to the various face pictures to add some uniqueness to each character would be amazing.

Now it feels like a lot of girls that are exactly the same.
I like this idea, and it is definitely something that will be worked on in the future. When exactly, I still don't know, but you can expect to see this for sure in a future version :)
 

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I have changed requiredAnswers to 11 and after a while it's quite challenging to prevent all girls from graduating, so I'd start with that.

That said, I have a crash to report. After a few weeks the game crashes with the following backtrace:
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Savegame attached.
Thank you a lot for this traceback. I will take a look at it! :)
 
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HelotGames

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good start to a game, very fun :) A few suggestions which most of which have already been said:

1. Ability to view stats and have a better idea which option to choose
2. A bit less randomness will make raising or lowering stats more of a goal
3. Character stats which improve odds
4. More content / randomness in scenes
5. Perhaps once you achieve creampie when they retest, they don't bother answering the questions, etc - or some sort of an end goal to where you can call them at night and they aren't included in the tests any more
Thank you a lot for your feedback! Some of these points will be addressed in the very next update! :)
 

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I have changed requiredAnswers to 11 and after a while it's quite challenging to prevent all girls from graduating, so I'd start with that.

That said, I have a crash to report. After a few weeks the game crashes with the following backtrace:
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Savegame attached.
Same trouble. I also changed the number of answers. Further more such errors pop up.
The further you play, the more difficult it is to interfere with girls, you need to make, for example, an additional number of correct answers as a penalty with each retake.
So far, no idea how the game will develop further and how it will end. You can make a good whore simulator, for example, after several retakes, somehow threaten deduction, etc.
The beginning is good, I look forward to continuing.
 
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Played it some more. Pretty fun, actually. Simple, hot, good framework. Needs more variety as mentioned, but other stuff to note:

Girls are too quick to run. A lot of the time they will escape on the literal first action. Maybe in the future we'll have more options in the class room, like forcing girls to stay for a while (similar to corrupted saviors which has similar issues).

The last girl shouldn't be worried about being embarrassed by other girls seeing her. She's the only one left.

Top tends to come off super easy, anything else its very hard to remove before time runs out/they run away, you can spam click grope/slap/whatever every turn with no effect then other girls it works almost instantly for no apparent reason.

Needs to explain what stats do. Do I want girls to be scared of me? I want them to come in dressed in less, or be more horny. I don't get the fear stat. It seems bad. Maybe its good? Maybe making them scared inexplicably makes them less scared, since making them embarrased makes them more of a slut? Or is to tie into a future system? Like if they're scared enough you can make them lift skirt themselves?
Showing what actions add statwise on the ui would also be good. One slap makes them fear, one makes embarrased, none turn them on. You have to trial and error this.

Maybe add 'weakpoints' to the girls you can find and then abuse. Ie more sensitive breasts, really likes kissing (if that's ever added), etc

If the girl is weaing a skirt and I lifted it, or its too short, it should tell me what panties they're wearing. I can see.

Sometimes girls it says are shy and well-behaved will come in dressed in a microskirt, crotchless panties and see through shirt. Then they never will again. Its weird.

No control over which girls you see. As is the best option seems to be to intentionally remove all but 3 girls, then work on them, so you can actually see progress without praying to rng. None of the girls are actual characters as is so there's really no real reason not to do this.

You can 'start fucking' every turn. I assume this is supposed to be a passive action in the future or something. You do it, then it just runs. If not I'm confused on it.

Not sure what direction this plans to go in (will the girls be characters? Will we have any control on them beyond groping them at desk? Will you find a picture of desks which chairs removed for maximum immersion?) but I think its a really good start.
I really don't care about the story myself, but slightly better justification for why you're the only teacher for every girl and can casually fuck them against their will wouldn't be a bad idea.
As is you could add a female teacher with little difficulty for more potential players, but depending on the direction this goes, it could be not worth the effort in the long-run. I don't particularly care who the teacher is myself, a hand is a hand regardless, a grope is a grope.
 
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Pretty cool game, played for like 2-3h straight, run smoothly and has some replayability even for a v0.1

I've done some coding to better suits my playstyle and balance "late game", maybe some modding to release.
I've seen that clothes are pretty deeply hard-coded, is there plans to had a more fluid way to add clothes ?

Also HelotGames, be advised, you are using 'round' as a variable for couting the 15rounds of the exam.
It's actually really bad naming as it's fucking up the native round() function of Python ^^
It litteraly takes 2min to modify it, but I recommand you to do it ASAP to avoid errors while wanting to use the round() function.

I've also encountered an Out Of Range exception from the Girl() class with a high inhibition girl.
self.panties = self.wardrobe[7] might be : self.panties = self.wardrobe[len(self.wardrobe)-1] ?
 
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If anyone finds it too hard and just wanna gets to the fun edit the save.
(you can change amount of rounds and the amount needed to pass)
my save here i added 30 rounds and 100 to pass. to make it balanced 20 and 25 is a good middle ground.
I try to play it, but I can't seem to make it work. What should I do?
 

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Not sure what direction this plans to go in (will the girls be characters? Will we have any control on them beyond groping them at desk? Will you find a picture of desks which chairs removed for maximum immersion?) but I think its a really good start.
I really don't care about the story myself, but slightly better justification for why you're the only teacher for every girl and can casually fuck them against their will wouldn't be a bad idea.
My guess is, HelotGames is not really sure himself and still looking for ideas. Am I right?

One thing that comes to my mind is, after we keep a girl from passing long enough, she might not want to try again. However, since at this point she's (probably) unable to find a normal job because of her lack of education, she's forced to look elsewhere. Still, the school wants to make money, right? So:
  • if a girl is terrified or loves pain, she might become a slave, for the school to either use (as an unpaid labor, i.e. janitor, kitchen help, or even a teacher if she's smart) or sell for one-time profit,
  • if a girl is uninhibited or sexualized, she might become a prostitute, discretely earning money for the school, or maybe providing sexual services to the faculty or paying students,
  • if a girl is corrupted, she can be used to expand the school's operations into different areas,
  • if a girl lusts after you (the game has no notion of love right now), she might want to become yours (slave, plaything, maybe even a trophy wife?) instead of being school's property,
  • etc.
As is you could add a female teacher with little difficulty for more potential players, but depending on the direction this goes, it could be not worth the effort in the long-run. I don't particularly care who the teacher is myself, a hand is a hand regardless, a grope is a grope.
A hand is a hand, a grope is a grope, but a cock fuck is not necessarily the same as a strap-on one. It's not that I'm against, it can be interesting, it just needs to be balanced. For example, a lesbian finger-fuck or cunnilingus should be better than a straight one, but a straight fuck carries pregnancy risks.

Just my $0,02...
 
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Played it some more. Pretty fun, actually. Simple, hot, good framework. Needs more variety as mentioned, but other stuff to note:

Girls are too quick to run. A lot of the time they will escape on the literal first action. Maybe in the future we'll have more options in the class room, like forcing girls to stay for a while (similar to corrupted saviors which has similar issues).

The last girl shouldn't be worried about being embarrassed by other girls seeing her. She's the only one left.

Top tends to come off super easy, anything else its very hard to remove before time runs out/they run away, you can spam click grope/slap/whatever every turn with no effect then other girls it works almost instantly for no apparent reason.

Needs to explain what stats do. Do I want girls to be scared of me? I want them to come in dressed in less, or be more horny. I don't get the fear stat. It seems bad. Maybe its good? Maybe making them scared inexplicably makes them less scared, since making them embarrased makes them more of a slut? Or is to tie into a future system? Like if they're scared enough you can make them lift skirt themselves?
Showing what actions add statwise on the ui would also be good. One slap makes them fear, one makes embarrased, none turn them on. You have to trial and error this.

Maybe add 'weakpoints' to the girls you can find and then abuse. Ie more sensitive breasts, really likes kissing (if that's ever added), etc

If the girl is weaing a skirt and I lifted it, or its too short, it should tell me what panties they're wearing. I can see.

Sometimes girls it says are shy and well-behaved will come in dressed in a microskirt, crotchless panties and see through shirt. Then they never will again. Its weird.

No control over which girls you see. As is the best option seems to be to intentionally remove all but 3 girls, then work on them, so you can actually see progress without praying to rng. None of the girls are actual characters as is so there's really no real reason not to do this.

You can 'start fucking' every turn. I assume this is supposed to be a passive action in the future or something. You do it, then it just runs. If not I'm confused on it.

Not sure what direction this plans to go in (will the girls be characters? Will we have any control on them beyond groping them at desk? Will you find a picture of desks which chairs removed for maximum immersion?) but I think its a really good start.
I really don't care about the story myself, but slightly better justification for why you're the only teacher for every girl and can casually fuck them against their will wouldn't be a bad idea.
As is you could add a female teacher with little difficulty for more potential players, but depending on the direction this goes, it could be not worth the effort in the long-run. I don't particularly care who the teacher is myself, a hand is a hand regardless, a grope is a grope.
Thanks a lot for your feedback and ideas! I will be sure to take a look at it and do my best in achieving a satisfactory balance rework for the next update :) Also information and randomness will be addressed.
 
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HelotGames

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Pretty cool game, played for like 2-3h straight, run smoothly and has some replayability even for a v0.1

I've done some coding to better suits my playstyle and balance "late game", maybe some modding to release.
I've seen that clothes are pretty deeply hard-coded, is there plans to had a more fluid way to add clothes ?

Also HelotGames, be advised, you are using 'round' as a variable for couting the 15rounds of the exam.
It's actually really bad naming as it's fucking up the native round() function of Python ^^
It litteraly takes 2min to modify it, but I recommand you to do it ASAP to avoid errors while wanting to use the round() function.

I've also encountered an Out Of Range exception from the Girl() class with a high inhibition girl.
self.panties = self.wardrobe[7] might be : self.panties = self.wardrobe[len(self.wardrobe)-1] ?
Oh shoot! I totally forgot about that. Thanks a lot for reminding be about round.

You are completely free to mod as you please :)
 
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My guess is, HelotGames is not really sure himself and still looking for ideas. Am I right?

One thing that comes to my mind is, after we keep a girl from passing long enough, she might not want to try again. However, since at this point she's (probably) unable to find a normal job because of her lack of education, she's forced to look elsewhere. Still, the school wants to make money, right? So:
  • if a girl is terrified or loves pain, she might become a slave, for the school to either use (as an unpaid labor, i.e. janitor, kitchen help, or even a teacher if she's smart) or sell for one-time profit,
  • if a girl is uninhibited or sexualized, she might become a prostitute, discretely earning money for the school, or maybe providing sexual services to the faculty or paying students,
  • if a girl is corrupted, she can be used to expand the school's operations into different areas,
  • if a girl lusts after you (the game has no notion of love right now), she might want to become yours (slave, plaything, maybe even a trophy wife?) instead of being school's property,
  • etc.


A hand is a hand, a grope is a grope, but a cock fuck is not necessarily the same as a strap-on one. It's not that I'm against, it can be interesting, it just needs to be balanced. For example, a lesbian finger-fuck or cunnilingus should be better than a straight one, but a straight fuck carries pregnancy risks.

Just my $0,02...
Exactly. I have a shit load of ideas and new features that the game could have, and in the distant future, I imagine it having all of those ideas implemented in some way or another. I just don't know yet which to do, and which would be the most interesting. This is a thing I will be discussing a lot on my Patreon, however. Also thanks a bunch for your feedback! :)
 

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Entertaining concept, curious about how it might turn out with more visual aids, gifs and such in the future.

As others have pointed out, sometimes the interface can be kind of wonky, like girls being embarassed of being slapped or groped in the front of their colleagues - when the others have already left in shame or humiliation.
 
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I believe if you give us info about how probably is something that can help a lot, kinda like xcom, maybe you have 10% of striping the girl, so you try something different and see that the probability improves
 
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ara1111

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After looking in the code the way it works right now seems to mostly care about how horny you make the girls in regards to stripping them, which often makes them cum, which often makes them leave. Really high horniness needed too.
I think having the girls end rounds being 'horny, embarrased and a little hurt' or similar would be better than 'you had to make her horny to strip her and that trumps everything' as it is now. Since the girls only start dressing sluttier when embarrasing them, and that's currently very hard to achieve without a lucky role on stripping them, which itself requires making them horny.

Also game throws up a lot of errors once they do start dressing slutty as it'll try to make them wear panties like ring panties, then just instantly declair them being gone, apparently embarassed before they even sat down.
Slut wear in general leads to some weird logical issues too. Like girl with assless panties bent over a desk in a microskirt not being ready for anal. Why the fuck she dressed like this then?

Hope this doesn't die. Reminds me of Dungeon Gaming's little dungeon sim he made ages ago, which had a really fun and simple first release, an attempt like 3 months later to fix a few issues, then immediately died.
 
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Weirdly, despite the game having literally no depth yet, it's strangely addicting to play. Spent an hour or so on it. Can't explain why. Some feedback;

  1. I think the math for the wardrobe could be better. I've seen girls come in topless wearing jeans - or vice versa, no pants and crotchless panties, but for some reason they have a parka on. Maybe do the roll for which "tier" of clothing they're going to wear first, and simply have a random pick of 0->len on the list of clothes within that tier, rather than reroll the tier for every piece of clothing?
  2. I think the undressing code needs a bit of work. Early on it's no issue, you just stroke some legs and you can get some socks, pants or shirts - but once you've been going for a couple of weeks, a girl who's basically superhorny comes in without a shirt on, but she'll hold on to her panties 'til kingdom come.
  3. Likewise, I think a girl who's just had an orgasm isn't likely to either a) hold on to her remaining clothing, b) answer a question, and much less, c) answer the final question and walk out of the classroom (yes, I've had all of those happen). Have girls who just had an orgasm get "stunned" for a round in my opinion.
  4. This is probably already planned, but orgasm animations would be cool. Bonus points if they start squirting as they become more corrupt.
  5. Another good idea would be some graphical indication of the girls' current "stats" - like pain, pleasure, fear, embarrassment, etc. It doesn't have to be numerical values, just some kind of sense of how a girl is reacting and feeling.
  6. Someone already mentioned the index out of range on the setupExamination call, but there's a second one that happens when you (I think) start getting too many panties in your collection. I'll add the trace below.
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mark818

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Very nice game! I added a button to pause round count, correct answer count and student shame paramter to give myself more time to play with each. Also swapped couple of pics to my liking. A small tip to the author, in all places where you loop over each item in the list just to count them up by +1, instead just call len() function, saves your time and makes the game faster.

Example:
Python:
# old code
numOfPanties = 0
for panty in panties:
    numOfPanties += 1
    
# try this instead
numOfPanties = len(panties)
 
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