VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS Part 8a] [Mircom3D]

[SevenCostanza]

At the risk of sounding like a total jackass, to me it feels like the reset is more about prolonging the game/story as much as possible at this point. The fact that the actual discussion of both their infidelity and the lack of a response to the major sources of conflict/tension, which is basically a forced two line explanation, what else could it really be? If it was about expounding on the existing routes but with a 'clean slate' so to speak, then the issues surrounding the routes would be addressed in some way. What has actually changed in their relationship after the reset? With all of the major issues that bring real tension to each route being swept under the rug, why wouldn't they just pick up where they left off? Neither of them faced any repercussions or consequences for all their actions up to that point so why would they change anything? The wife after sleeping with anyone and everyone suddenly wants to go back to the way things were with no real explanation? Quite a leap of faith. In reality the reset is a cheap way to try to add some stakes/raise the tension since things were getting too repetitive and stale and thus extend the life of the game. It will make some players think 'Oh they're faithful again. Any cheating or cuckolding or corruption will now feel more fresh and impactful since they both said they would be faithful'.
This reset, or to be more specific, the couple's discussion about their relationship/cheating needed to have addressed the various issues in each of the routes that actually brought forth the conflict and the discussion in the first place. If not then, when? After another 3 updates when the story has circled back to another 'reset'?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to finalize the endings of the routes and work backwards so things don't get messier and harder to manage.

Edit: I don't think most people have a problem with the reset in general, it's more about the way it was executed. No player choice, not addressing the issues that brought up the discussion to begin with, no resolution of any of the existing conflicts, no actual plan on how to move forward, choices up till now have little impact, no closure, etc. What was the point of everything up till now if we just get sent back to the beginning of the game? It's like those Japanese VN's where you have to play through the game once and it unlocks a different play through/pov except nothing gets unlocked besides feeling dissatisfaction.

 

[Puma1978]

At the risk of sounding like a total jackass, to me it feels like the reset is more about prolonging the game/story as much as possible at this point. The fact that the actual discussion of both their infidelity and the lack of a response to the major sources of conflict/tension, which is basically a forced two line explanation, what else could it really be? If it was about expounding on the existing routes but with a 'clean slate' so to speak, then the issues surrounding the routes would be addressed in some way. What has actually changed in their relationship after the reset? With all of the major issues that bring real tension to each route being swept under the rug, why wouldn't they just pick up where they left off? Neither of them faced any repercussions or consequences for all their actions up to that point so why would they change anything? The wife after sleeping with anyone and everyone suddenly wants to go back to the way things were with no real explanation? Quite a leap of faith. In reality the reset is a cheap way to try to add some stakes/raise the tension since things were getting too repetitive and stale and thus extend the life of the game. It will make some players think 'Oh they're faithful again. Any cheating or cuckolding or corruption will now feel more fresh and impactful since they both said they would be faithful'.
This reset, or to be more specific, the couple's discussion about their relationship/cheating needed to have addressed the various issues in each of the routes that actually brought forth the conflict and the discussion in the first place. If not then, when? After another 3 updates when the story has circled back to another 'reset'?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to finalize the endings of the routes and work backwards so things don't get messier and harder to manage.

Edit: I don't think most people have a problem with the reset in general, it's more about the way it was executed. No player choice, not addressing the issues that brought up the discussion to begin with, no resolution of any of the existing conflicts, no actual plan on how to move forward, choices up till now have little impact, no closure, etc. What was the point of everything up till now if we just get sent back to the beginning of the game? It's like those Japanese VN's where you have to play through the game once and it unlocks a different play through/pov except nothing gets unlocked besides feeling dissatisfaction.

I agree with the reset but to put that in the middle of the holiday is a little suspect to me. It would be a good approach to let Anne ask MC if he wants to talk now or at the end of holiday. Becaue now i dont really understand why there is no action with Anne and the guys from the golf club is possible, what is the reason for introducing Tamara, the girl and her mum on the beach, the blonde tatooed girl and the other girls who have a name in the game which never get any special encounters.
So somehow to put the reset just in the middle of the holiday makes me feel that the Dev has planned a lot of cheating scenarios he couldnt finish or implement without bugs/errors anymore and so he did the forced reset to faithful? There is also a loss of action noticable after the reset until the last event just sitting on the swimming pool with Anne....
It would be a possible approach to make holidays between Anne and MC to a optional game where the player can decide at the beginning that everything is allowed this week and at the end we confess each other. Then player could choose from beginning of holiday if he gets the cheating path or the swinging path...

 

[Canto Forte]

The whole time Ann put her trust in hook ups was that she was the prize, so she felt excitement.
Now, when you look at pretty much all her continued hook ups,
the bulls are starting to get clingy and treat her like a cheap whore.
So Ann does need a reset. She needs a total makeover. She needs to wotk on the only thing
that makes her excited and also proves her worth: She is happyly married and open bout it.

Since the bulls started making demands and treated her like the street hooker,
she gave into it and we had actual street idiots get her for no reason other than her
being turned to trash by the assholes who could not understand her at all.

I wanted to reply to everyone who are upset with the reset. Remember the developer just introduced it we don't know how its going to flesh out in later updates. I think he will reintroduce cheating moving forward and I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt. What I thought was the most interesting part of the reset was when Annie said she wanted to go back to the time before they introduced this open lifestyle. She only said she would continue it because the MC said he wanted to. I wonder if her character just wants to go back to be monogamous. What I would have liked to see is them both agreeing that the lifestyle was driving them apart and decide not to do it anymore and then slowly see both of them end up missing it and going behind each others backs to have lovers and then agree to continue it when one of them gets caught. My biggest complaint with the game is that Annie has fucked (or had the option to) every guy that gets introduced. I'd prefer she stuck with a steady stable of maybe the top ten. I would like to know if you don't say no to anybody how many different guys she screwed.. Its gotta be at least 30

I think the faithfullness reset was placed on a very bad point in the game. It would have been better to put such a confession and restart at the end of the holiday. So during the whole holiday cheating for both could turned out into a competition between them and at the end they find back together and talk about it.
Like it is now i still have the feeling that this reset has just the purpose to finish the update quickly by skipping any cheating scenarios between Anne and MC which were planned by DEV at first. Because there is enough material there like Tamara, Walker, waiters, the golf guys and the tattooed blonde girl who now dont really get a real reason for their introduction.
A good way would be to let Anne ask MC if they should confess in the middle of the holiday like it is now or at the end of the holiday. Then player can choose different paths and trigger maybe a more hardcore cheating path during the holiday.
I also think that Anne and MC could turn this into a challenging game for every holiday to get chosen by player at the beginning of the holiday.. Everyone can fuck who he/she wants and at the end they make a confession and faithfullness reset...

At the risk of sounding like a total jackass, to me it feels like the reset is more about prolonging the game/story as much as possible at this point. The fact that the actual discussion of both their infidelity and the lack of a response to the major sources of conflict/tension, which is basically a forced two line explanation, what else could it really be? If it was about expounding on the existing routes but with a 'clean slate' so to speak, then the issues surrounding the routes would be addressed in some way. What has actually changed in their relationship after the reset? With all of the major issues that bring real tension to each route being swept under the rug, why wouldn't they just pick up where they left off? Neither of them faced any repercussions or consequences for all their actions up to that point so why would they change anything? The wife after sleeping with anyone and everyone suddenly wants to go back to the way things were with no real explanation? Quite a leap of faith. In reality the reset is a cheap way to try to add some stakes/raise the tension since things were getting too repetitive and stale and thus extend the life of the game. It will make some players think 'Oh they're faithful again. Any cheating or cuckolding or corruption will now feel more fresh and impactful since they both said they would be faithful'.
This reset, or to be more specific, the couple's discussion about their relationship/cheating needed to have addressed the various issues in each of the routes that actually brought forth the conflict and the discussion in the first place. If not then, when? After another 3 updates when the story has circled back to another 'reset'?
Perhaps it would be beneficial to finalize the endings of the routes and work backwards so things don't get messier and harder to manage.

Edit: I don't think most people have a problem with the reset in general, it's more about the way it was executed. No player choice, not addressing the issues that brought up the discussion to begin with, no resolution of any of the existing conflicts, no actual plan on how to move forward, choices up till now have little impact, no closure, etc. What was the point of everything up till now if we just get sent back to the beginning of the game? It's like those Japanese VN's where you have to play through the game once and it unlocks a different play through/pov except nothing gets unlocked besides feeling dissatisfaction.

I agree with the reset but to put that in the middle of the holiday is a little suspect to me. It would be a good approach to let Anne ask MC if he wants to talk now or at the end of holiday. Becaue now i dont really understand why there is no action with Anne and the guys from the golf club is possible, what is the reason for introducing Tamara, the girl and her mum on the beach, the blonde tatooed girl and the other girls who have a name in the game which never get any special encounters.
So somehow to put the reset just in the middle of the holiday makes me feel that the Dev has planned a lot of cheating scenarios he couldnt finish or implement without bugs/errors anymore and so he did the forced reset to faithful? There is also a loss of action noticable after the reset until the last event just sitting on the swimming pool with Anne....
It would be a possible approach to make holidays between Anne and MC to a optional game where the player can decide at the beginning that everything is allowed this week and at the end we confess each other. Then player could choose from beginning of holiday if he gets the cheating path or the swinging path...

Not to mention that lifestyle actually put them both to sleep, a recurring theme throughout the game was
the ”I am too tired to do anything with you” even tho that was the whole spark this game hangs on.

 

[Nurikabe]

The best solution would be to have full control of Anna. It would solve the problem. And everyone would play as they like. And that's how we have a mess.

But that is not the story we have. I understand you are saying that changing it to a female protagonist would allow all these guys to play Anne like a total slut and they would be happy about it. But that is not the story. It is possible to have a male protagonist controlled by the player. The solution can't be, just rewrite the story so dudes can control the female character. Right?

Is the problem that Anne has too much sex? No. How about, does Anne have sex with people the player does not want to have sex with? That seems more accurate. And in that case, giving the player the choice to engage in sex each time makes it so you can play Anne however you want. Wanna have the complete slut wife? Play Anne the way she is written. Wanna play Anne so she only sleeps with people the husband (and therefore the player) approves of? Add the chance to pass.

My personal problem with the story is that in a LOVING relationship with her husband, Anne would not do half of the things she does in the story. She would certainly NOT sleep with the husband's father. She would not establish a relationship with anyone particular guy. On the other hand, she would be an exhibitionist. She would sleep with anyone her husband approves. And anyone the husband is there for. That is all in character.

It is even possible to have the cuckold route with Anne in character. Whether she sleeps with guys and the husband is present, or if she tells him about it later, records it, takes pictures to send him, etc. Any of those would be in character with what the developer created. But sleeping with anyone and everyone without the husband having any knowledge... That opens a cheating route. And sure, that is also viable. IF the writer makes it happen. But what we have in this story is a mess of all of those things without any direction or purpose.

Changing what character the player controls does not fix that.

 

[Nurikabe]

I agree with the reset but to put that in the middle of the holiday is a little suspect to me. It would be a good approach to let Anne ask MC if he wants to talk now or at the end of holiday. Becaue now i dont really understand why there is no action with Anne and the guys from the golf club is possible, what is the reason for introducing Tamara, the girl and her mum on the beach, the blonde tatooed girl and the other girls who have a name in the game which never get any special encounters.
So somehow to put the reset just in the middle of the holiday makes me feel that the Dev has planned a lot of cheating scenarios he couldnt finish or implement without bugs/errors anymore and so he did the forced reset to faithful? There is also a loss of action noticable after the reset until the last event just sitting on the swimming pool with Anne....
It would be a possible approach to make holidays between Anne and MC to a optional game where the player can decide at the beginning that everything is allowed this week and at the end we confess each other. Then player could choose from beginning of holiday if he gets the cheating path or the swinging path...

Yeah, I think the timing was completely out of laziness and convenience. There are three days of absolutely nothing except watching the couple eat on vacation. No new content. No exploring the women/men already introduced (Tamara, Yoga Lady, The Vancouver family, etc.). WTF?

We coasted through the rest of the vacation and saved up all the work for the one major event. And it was a good event. But following days of nothing? Hell, bring in a big storm and send the couple home if you are just going to give up. Let them get it on together each day. Have a romantic outing. Go exploring. Go scuba diving. Fuck in the pool. Skip dinner and tear each other's clothes off. They are on an anniversary vacation!

 

[Sadowdark]

And in this game, I am irritated by forced sex scenes that I would not choose. I can only watch because there is nothing I can do. I hate the scenes: with the doctor, the young boy by the lake, the receptionist, on the beach in this gazebo when Anna is teaching the young boy, a few more that I forgot.

 

[Puma1978]

But that is not the story we have. I understand you are saying that changing it to a female protagonist would allow all these guys to play Anne like a total slut and they would be happy about it. But that is not the story. It is possible to have a male protagonist controlled by the player. The solution can't be, just rewrite the story so dudes can control the female character. Right?

Is the problem that Anne has too much sex? No. How about, does Anne have sex with people the player does not want to have sex with? That seems more accurate. And in that case, giving the player the choice to engage in sex each time makes it so you can play Anne however you want. Wanna have the complete slut wife? Play Anne the way she is written. Wanna play Anne so she only sleeps with people the husband (and therefore the player) approves of? Add the chance to pass.

My personal problem with the story is that in a LOVING relationship with her husband, Anne would not do half of the things she does in the story. She would certainly NOT sleep with the husband's father. She would not establish a relationship with anyone particular guy. On the other hand, she would be an exhibitionist. She would sleep with anyone her husband approves. And anyone the husband is there for. That is all in character.

It is even possible to have the cuckold route with Anne in character. Whether she sleeps with guys and the husband is present, or if she tells him about it later, records it, takes pictures to send him, etc. Any of those would be in character with what the developer created. But sleeping with anyone and everyone without the husband having any knowledge... That opens a cheating route. And sure, that is also viable. IF the writer makes it happen. But what we have in this story is a mess of all of those things without any direction or purpose.

Changing what character the player controls does not fix that.

Yes i stil lcant get a logic peace with the approach in the cheating with MC's Dad pathz. I am ok if she does but there is no real deep reaction possible from MC side and that at a topic which was a red line for his relationship with Emma before.
I know its also avoidable but what i miss is a proper reaction of MC to that.

 

[Sadowdark]

But that is not the story we have. I understand you are saying that changing it to a female protagonist would allow all these guys to play Anne like a total slut and they would be happy about it. But that is not the story. It is possible to have a male protagonist controlled by the player. The solution can't be, just rewrite the story so dudes can control the female character. Right?

Is the problem that Anne has too much sex? No. How about, does Anne have sex with people the player does not want to have sex with? That seems more accurate. And in that case, giving the player the choice to engage in sex each time makes it so you can play Anne however you want. Wanna have the complete slut wife? Play Anne the way she is written. Wanna play Anne so she only sleeps with people the husband (and therefore the player) approves of? Add the chance to pass.

My personal problem with the story is that in a LOVING relationship with her husband, Anne would not do half of the things she does in the story. She would certainly NOT sleep with the husband's father. She would not establish a relationship with anyone particular guy. On the other hand, she would be an exhibitionist. She would sleep with anyone her husband approves. And anyone the husband is there for. That is all in character.

It is even possible to have the cuckold route with Anne in character. Whether she sleeps with guys and the husband is present, or if she tells him about it later, records it, takes pictures to send him, etc. Any of those would be in character with what the developer created. But sleeping with anyone and everyone without the husband having any knowledge... That opens a cheating route. And sure, that is also viable. IF the writer makes it happen. But what we have in this story is a mess of all of those things without any direction or purpose.

Changing what character the player controls does not fix that.

I expressed myself a bit badly, I meant that Mc's husband would have full control over Ania. So we could avoid forced sex, incl. with your doctor and with others we would not choose. Ania wouldn't have to be rewritten.

 

[rlduck]

One of the bones of contention regarding this game is that even in the faithful playthrough she doesn't always disclose who she is with. But be patient with it. It is by design so that they can have a conversation about it later. At a certain point, they will either have a blow-up or they will set the rules. But at the point you are at, it is still the wild west and they both are going to slip up. Drama has to come from somewhere, after all. There will be a certain point when you can make a decision for her and this will determine whether or not she starts cheating in earnist and undermining the relationship. It will be pretty obvious when it arrives.

Thank you, yea like I said I really want to like it and I'm going to keep going. Your post makes me feel a bit better about it though so again thank you.

I agree with a lot being said here, and especially when you said it was the wild west, it sure is at the moment lol. I thought when the MC wanted to push her down this route that it was supposed to be as much for him as it was for her and it would be done together. Well like others have said it went off the rails and now even though my stats have 27 relationship points which if I'm not mistaken is love towards Anne, and both faithfulness are true even though the MC has cheated and so has she by doing things and not telling the MC about them is certainly cheating and not going by the agreement. The main reason I had the MC to have his fun was I felt sorry for him, when his wife isn't having sex with him anymore he's kind of left out in the rain. I still don't understand how she can go wild like that cheating and then come home go to bed and tell him she loves him, but even now in my playthrough that has become less and less I have noticed, he still tells her but she doesn't reciprocate it.

I will still finish up to the current chapter because of your post you have given me hope that this will turn around, I hope there is more of the cuck queen content along with the swinger side of things, like Exciting Games, I like that because they are doing it together and not being shady about anything and they both have their fun. Thank again for your post it probably saved this AVN for me.

 

[Sadowdark]

The whole time Ann put her trust in hook ups was that she was the prize, so she felt excitement.
Now, when you look at pretty much all her continued hook ups,
the bulls are starting to get clingy and treat her like a cheap whore.
So Ann does need a reset. She needs a total makeover. She needs to wotk on the only thing
that makes her excited and also proves her worth: She is happyly married and open bout it.

Since the bulls started making demands and treated her like the street hooker,
she gave into it and we had actual street idiots get her for no reason other than her
being turned to trash by the assholes who could not understand her at all.






Not to mention that lifestyle actually put them both to sleep, a recurring theme throughout the game was
the ”I am too tired to do anything with you” even tho that was the whole spark this game hangs on.

To me, Anna is not a whore yet, she will only become a turbo whore when she starts fucking for money.

 

[NewTricks]

Thank you, yea like I said I really want to like it and I'm going to keep going. Your post makes me feel a bit better about it though so again thank you.

I agree with a lot being said here, and especially when you said it was the wild west, it sure is at the moment lol. I thought when the MC wanted to push her down this route that it was supposed to be as much for him as it was for her and it would be done together. Well like others have said it went off the rails and now even though my stats have 27 relationship points which if I'm not mistaken is love towards Anne, and both faithfulness are true even though the MC has cheated and so has she by doing things and not telling the MC about them is certainly cheating and not going by the agreement. The main reason I had the MC to have his fun was I felt sorry for him, when his wife isn't having sex with him anymore he's kind of left out in the rain. I still don't understand how she can go wild like that cheating and then come home go to bed and tell him she loves him, but even now in my playthrough that has become less and less I have noticed, he still tells her but she doesn't reciprocate it.

I will still finish up to the current chapter because of your post you have given me hope that this will turn around, I hope there is more of the cuck queen content along with the swinger side of things, like Exciting Games, I like that because they are doing it together and not being shady about anything and they both have their fun. Thank again for your post it probably saved this AVN for me.

I think that what saves it for me (I play both paths) is that I do into it with the realization that they do not have a healthy relationship and it is both their fault. They don't communicate well and they don't really understand each other quite as well as they think they do. Although both highly sexual people and of acceptable sexual compatibility they could be better together if they were honest with each other. Even the "best" version of MC is highly manipulative in his attempts to push Anne to fulfill his fantasies, which include her cheating on him. While you, the player, can decide if being cuckolded is a fetish of his that he shares with her and engages with her about he is constantly fantasizing about what she is doing without him. So if their communication was better this would be something that they could do together. Meanwhile, we don't know what is going through Anne's head but from my observation, she doesn't let her husband know what she has done because she may be experiencing needless shame. She is afraid of how he will react, especially if you don't share your fetish with her and let her know that cuckolding is the MCs fantasy. Her fetish is exhibitionism, so they are not incompatible in this regard. But an overly controlling relationship doesn't work for her either, and she really hates it when her husband doesn't at least play along when she is doing something for her own pleasure. She really has a lot of work to do when it comes to communicating her expectations in the relationship instead of just getting frustrated and angry when/if her husband isn't into a particular erotic proposition. As you say, this is something that they should do together and she should be better at communicating why she thinks something is unfair in their relationship, especially when her husband changes the rules of what their relationship is on a daily basis according to little more than his whims.

In short, people tend to evaluate the couple in terms of ethical non-monogamy, but that is not what they are practicing. They are not following the rules because they don't even know what they are. That is what they ultimately want, but they haven't had sufficient guidance and lack the knowledge to achieve it at the present time. I don't know if they have even bothered to talk to a couple who is practicing it successfully. They are just following some tips from an email newsletter and it is not going well.

 

[Sadowdark]

They are only learning this relationship, unfortunately they make more and more mistakes that are destructive to their relationship. It is strange that the forum from which they were entrusted with these tasks did not present any rules governing this type of relationship. It would be more logical. What do they get for these tasks? We get nothing. Such a side activity. May you not get bored with constant sex in the game.

 

[rlduck]

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[Gravis_93]

Can someone share some saves that start with the end of the last version and are compatible with the current version or can someone link to the place in the thread where someone has shared such saves, the question has certainly come up before?

Thanks!

 

[Puma1978]

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Anne will not cheat with Troy if her Faithfulness Status is on True. She ios just giving her pantie to Troy when they met on toilet because its his fetish to collect panties from womaen.
U can get the Troy Scene only if u have Anne on Faithfullness:False status means on cheating mode. Then she will meet a guy i think his name is Drake with who she will have first anal sex and later they will go together to a massage parlor. And by accident one of the massage guys is Troy and when Drake falls asleep Anne will have Sex with Troy. This happens after she gave him her pantie when she was with MC at Chloes place.
Now the thing that bothers me most...the only way to get Anne on Faithfullness False status earlier in the game so that u can enjoy all these Scenes with Troy and Drake etc...is if u let her cheat with MC's Dad when he touches her butt on the beach.
So u have the choice to let her fucvk ur Dad to enjoy all these cheating scenes later or you avoid it and see nothing.
But you can also use a mod like universalk renpy mod to switch status anytime.

 

[Canto Forte]

Should you want to push ann onto assholes, you start with the biggest of them all - your dad.
There you have it: make her a meat sleeve for assholes who know you and revel in
taking from you, you sealed your bitch state for everyone.

Anne will not cheat with Troy if her Faithfulness Status is on True. She ios just giving her pantie to Troy when they met on toilet because its his fetish to collect panties from womaen.
U can get the Troy Scene only if u have Anne on Faithfullness:False status means on cheating mode. Then she will meet a guy i think his name is Drake with who she will have first anal sex and later they will go together to a massage parlor. And by accident one of the massage guys is Troy and when Drake falls asleep Anne will have Sex with Troy. This happens after she gave him her pantie when she was with MC at Chloes place.
Now the thing that bothers me most...the only way to get Anne on Faithfullness False status earlier in the game so that u can enjoy all these Scenes with Troy and Drake etc...is if u let her cheat with MC's Dad when he touches her butt on the beach.
So u have the choice to let her fucvk ur Dad to enjoy all these cheating scenes later or you avoid it and see nothing.
But you can also use a mod like universalk renpy mod to switch status anytime.

Game your pain in agony!

 

[Puma1978]

Should you want to push ann onto assholes, you start with the biggest of them all - your dad.
There you have it: make her a meat sleeve for assholes who know you and revel in
taking from you, you sealed your bitch state for everyone.


Game your pain in agony!

To be honest i wouldnt mind if on Cheating Mode Anne would really get taken away for a few weeks and MC could get the possibility to take Emma, Chloe or Kelsi instead for 2-3 Chapters as partner in crime. And later suddenly MC and Anne are making holiday with their partners by accident on same place where MC and Anne start to have sex behind their new partners... and cat the end they change partners and make a reset with a confession.......could be a exciting plot twist

 

[GetOutOfMyLab]

Am I the only one that finds some of the other women more attractive than Anne?

 

[Alleykatt]

I don't mind the cheating at all. I think the MC has asked for it. But, I would like it to be clearer narratively that it is or is not cheating. In other words, I would like her to involve him in her escapades, at least as a voyeur, or alternatively to explicitly hide her activities. At the moment, she sort of has him in the background, which indicates that he is no meaningful in her life, which in turn weakens his position in the game and the narrative, making it a boring solitary slut show.

 

[Alleykatt]

Am I the only one that finds some of the other women more attractive than Anne?

Yes, you are. Anne is fucking gorgeous.