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RPGM Lisa [v2.90b] [PaleGrass]

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Shackie

Shackie

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puffmutter said:
Where is "Tom Hortons" for the instagram foto? And I also cannot trigger the pool foto in the morning. :(
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Tom Hortons : The coffee shop near Lisa's house
Pool Photo : First unlock the Hot Tub
(Go to the pool in the garden after completing the Camping Trip )
 
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SevenCostanza

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TheLecher said:
This conversation is becoming surreal. I have replied to you four times (before this post, now five times) since we began discussing the blackmail plot, and only the first of those replies was an argument against what you said. My second reply to you amounted to "That's cool." My third was a clarification of my opinion, since you seemed to think that I was contradicting myself. And my fourth and most recent reply was saying that we agree on at least some things about the blackmail plot, but probably not all things, but it doesn't matter, because we don't have to agree, so we can just drop it. I have no idea how you look at that chain of messages and come to the conclusion that I'm being purposefully obtuse or combative for the hell of it.



People arguing both sides are more likely to be wrong, not less likely to be wrong, because at least one of the opposing sides is likely to be wrong, to some extent. Fortunately for me, I'm not fence-sitting or trying to argue both sides. I've been very clear, and I'm not sure what is tripping you up. But I'll try again.
  1. I do not think that Lisa's motivation for submitting to the blackmail is inadequate. I think that the threat which exposure presents to her relationships with Danny, Jo, Luca, and possibly Viv is sufficient for her to be willing to comply, provided that she isn't wise enough to disarm the blackmail by coming clean. Since many people aren't wise enough to do that, and since I consider Lisa's motivation to be sufficient, I think that the blackmail plot is believable.
  2. However, I think that much of the above argument is based on the game's subtext, and I think that many players take a more "surface level" view of the story, and don't consider things which aren't spelled out in dialogue or internal monologues. Because of this, and because I think that PaleGrass should try to make the story clear to as many players as possible, I think that the existing dialogue and monologues should be updated to be more explicit about Lisa's fears concerning those relationships. I think that the fact that this hasn't been done yet amounts to a flaw in the story.
These two points are complimentary, not contradictory, so there is no simultaneous arguing of opposing sides.



Again, I don't find her motivation to be weak. The only reason that some other people may find it weak is that it hasn't been stated clearly enough for them, if they don't read between the lines. That's not the same as finding her motivation weak. Her motivation is strong, and it's already conveyed in the game, but not explicitly stated. So it should be made clearer.



And this is where we disagree. You don't find it believable, given the circumstances. I do find it believable, given the circumstances.



Yes.



You clearly have mistaken or misunderstood me, because you think that I find her motivation weak, which is incorrect. You also seem to think that I have been debating you nonstop, while only my first reply to you on this topic (and this reply) has actually been argumentative. My other three replies have been "fist bump", "Allow me to clarify...", and "Yeah, we agree about some things, and we don't have to go on arguing about the other things."



And when I say she really is that dumb, I mean dumb enough to make the wrong choice, which is the same degree of foolishness as a large percentage of humanity. My criticism of Lisa's character when she submits to blackmail isn't that she lacks intelligence. It's that she lacks the integrity to bite the bullet and come clean. It's foolishness, not stupidity - foolishness being worse than stupidity, in that it seems to be more widespread and often has worse consequences.

But she'll come out on top in the end.
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I think I understand where we differ now.
You believe she (and many people) aren't wise enough to realize that coming clean is obviously infinitely smarter then going along with the blackmailers demands and therefore it's believable despite you wishing the motivations etc were explained better.

I believe that the average adult would be able to come to that realization and not give in to the blackmailers especially in that situation. When the demand will put them in a position that would give them more power over you, it seems like a no brainer. If they asked for money and their power remains at the same level then sure maybe they give in and hope it goes away at least until they have a better plan. To give in and put yourself in a worse position and giving them more power over you right off the bat, personally doesn't make sense to me and shouldn't require a genius to realize that.
Either way I'll stop responding to this topic since we're going in circles and like you said we are in agreement on a lot of things but not everything and that's perfectly fine ;)
 
nunzio2016

nunzio2016

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Anyone have any issues with the Aiofe College quest? Says I need to speak with Ms. Short after the school trip and "enter and leave" the college...no dice. Nothing is happening. I'm wearing the right outfit, have the prerequisites. Not sure what's up?
Thanks for the help in advance! :)
 
Loxadhir

Loxadhir

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nunzio2016 said:
Anyone have any issues with the Aiofe College quest? Says I need to speak with Ms. Short after the school trip and "enter and leave" the college...no dice. Nothing is happening. I'm wearing the right outfit, have the prerequisites. Not sure what's up?
Thanks for the help in advance! :)
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I have the same problem also fitness is stuck at 4 and the Lisa pool insta pic can't be triggered
 
nunzio2016

nunzio2016

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Loxadhir said:
I have the same problem also fitness is stuck at 4 and the Lisa pool insta pic can't be triggered
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I was stuck at 4 as well…take a morning jog in town center (morning). Will push you to 5. Just did it a few hours ago.
Same issue with the pool insta. I have the other 9, just this one to go.
 
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tgki9878

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Having trouble completing Aoife's college quest, I believe I have interacted with Ms. Shorts before Aoife was introduced so will it be possible to complete the quest now, or do I have to replay?
 
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VithiaVale

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tgki9878 said:
Having trouble completing Aoife's college quest, I believe I have interacted with Ms. Shorts before Aoife was introduced so will it be possible to complete the quest now, or do I have to replay?
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I finally got it to work, and judging by the dialogue in the event, it looks like there's another requirement that isn't mentioned. It only happened after the movie with Gina and Jo, if that helps.
 
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nunzio2016

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VithiaVale said:
I finally got it to work, and judging by the dialogue in the event, it looks like there's another requirement that isn't mentioned. It only happened after the movie with Gina and Jo, if that helps.
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Man! That’s such a help. Great job!! Makes sense…hope it works for me haha
 
123Ins123

123Ins123

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Sai2004 said:
hey can anybody tell me what to do after this
I am kinda stuck

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Stomp home and go into the yard of the house. Sharon installed a Jacuzzi there. After this scene, go to Moddy's garage. You change clothes and go out into the hall - the meeting scene starts at Moddy's cottage. And then look into Lisa's magazine and see what else needs to be done)
 
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