darlic

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Red Rocket just couldn't get enough interest around this game, that's why she dropped it for the spin-off Bitch Squad. I'm not sure I remember correctly but she also hit a writer's block on RD as well at some point, before deciding to dedicate her efforts elsewhere.
Bitch Squad didn't get the desired success either, so it just was a matter of time for her to drop her projects for good.
 
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Avaron1974

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Red Rocket just couldn't get enough interest around this game, that's why she dropped it for the spin-off Bitch Squad. I'm not sure I remember correctly but she also hit a writer's block on RD as well at some point, before deciding to dedicate her efforts elsewhere.
Bitch Squad didn't get the desired success either, so it just was a matter of time for her to drop her projects for good.
First games rarely ever get success.

A few lucky ones will the rest take 2 or 3 games to start building a decent player base.

Starting a second game without completing one lowers that chance because the trust isn't there. With so many abandoned games we look for reliable devs to back. Those that start projects and finish them.

Rocket has pretty much fucked herself here. The only chance she has is completing both games and hoping people will trust her after that.

Personally I think she's done. Sadly too many "dev" expect instant results and that's just not going to happen.
 

Echoesinthedarkness

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Practically speaking, finishing your second or third game while still getting LESS THAN 500$ a month (and being a grown-up person) is not viable. At all. You need boatload of time, on top of god rendering system, ON TOP OF models/animations that you need to buy - if you are living under this pressure for a year or two (I think Red did it for exactly two years) and have virtually zero returns, its absolutely understandable that she called it a day, its just not worth it.
Honestly, as a patron, I dislike the way Red ghosted us, that was something Icstor would pull off, but the fact she decided to live avn's for good is reasonable.
 

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Practically speaking, finishing your second or third game while still getting LESS THAN 500$ a month (and being a grown-up person) is not viable. At all. You need boatload of time, on top of god rendering system, ON TOP OF models/animations that you need to buy - if you are living under this pressure for a year or two (I think Red did it for exactly two years) and have virtually zero returns, its absolutely understandable that she called it a day, its just not worth it.
Honestly, as a patron, I dislike the way Red ghosted us, that was something Icstor would pull off, but the fact she decided to live avn's for good is reasonable.
Well if you quit you could at least have the decency to announce it and deactivate your patreon. :sneaky:
 

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I think the main problem is a lot of devs greatly underestimate how important promoting their game is, it doesn't matter if you create the best game ever if very few people know about it and even fewer actually try the game. Word of mouth only really works well if you already have a sizable following and they are actually vocal.

If you consider that only a fraction of players who try a game will support it financially, you need as people to know about your game as possible. Promotion is even more important if a game doesn't have any of the really popular tags/themes and doesn't update frequently because it becomes very easy for people to miss your game or forget about it.

For example, if every time you release a new version you have a bunch of people posting in the thread how great the game is after playing it for the first time and wondering why they never heard about it before, you probably need to do a better job of advertising your game if you want more support...
 
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Hi Echoesinthedarkness, every start-up needs to perform its due-diligence and decide on a financial model for their business, and erotic games are not an exception to this rule. Every dev/entrepreneur has to decide what their goals and critical path and investment levels are likely to be BEFORE they embark on their venture. For sure if the returns fail to reach the predicted targets then eventually you pull the plug on the venture. The number of erotic game devs that make enough money to live on is TINY, the process is a big gamble and they all know this, so lets not shed crocodile tears about them having to wear croissants for shoes. From what I have seen at one end of the scale devs just want to create for itself and don't care about the income whilst at the other end devs attempt to increase their revenue by any possible means (and these devs do not last long typically). It seems to me that initially the dev of this project just wanted to learn the process of game making and didn't say much about revenue, but after 2 years and 3 substantially incomplete but intriguing games they left abruptly without closing their Patron. Although I support a number of devs, I can fully understand why many devs fail to attract funding even though their products show promise, and marketing is only a part of the problem.
 

Ilhares

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Man i just found and loved it and it's abandoned smh :(
Shame indeed. I don't care for the MC being a complete piece of garbage (metnally) no matter what choices I make, though. I tried to not be a total dick, and my options for the "guy who tried to kill me" were "break his arm" or "kill him", just so I get berated for my actions no matter what?

Virtually every person he has sex with he treats like total shit, talks to them like he's just the embodiment of toxic male. And then it leaves me hanging, waiting for the 2nd half of episode 6, which never came out, and the only sex with Violet was if you rape her. I mean.. damn. Kinda makes me wonder if this is how the developer sees men in general, since their other game plan was apparently all female MCs.
 
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Avaron1974

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Shame indeed. I don't care for the MC being a complete piece of garbage (metnally) no matter what choices I make, though. I tried to not be a total dick, and my options for the "guy who tried to kill me" were "break his arm" or "kill him", just so I get berated for my actions no matter what?
The guy DID kill him. He was brought back to work for a demon but he was very much killed.

If I got brought back and met the guy that killed me then breaking his arm would be the nice option.
 

Ilhares

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The guy DID kill him. He was brought back to work for a demon but he was very much killed.

If I got brought back and met the guy that killed me then breaking his arm would be the nice option.
That's how the MC referred to him as, "The guy who tried to kill me". Personally, I think if I were to get killed tomorrow and then wake up alive again, I don't think I'd particularly care, even though the whole arrangement is pretty fucked up.
 

Avaron1974

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That's how the MC referred to him as, "The guy who tried to kill me". Personally, I think if I were to get killed tomorrow and then wake up alive again, I don't think I'd particularly care, even though the whole arrangement is pretty fucked up.
So you're saying, in his place, you'd be quite happy if some guy shot you in the head then stole the gift you'd got for your wheelchair bound daughter on her birthday and forced you into being some demon dickheads bitch?

I think you are well and truly alone in that one.
 

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Shame indeed. I don't care for the MC being a complete piece of garbage (metnally) no matter what choices I make, though. I tried to not be a total dick, and my options for the "guy who tried to kill me" were "break his arm" or "kill him", just so I get berated for my actions no matter what?
It's possible to not hurt the murderer at all if you're on the good route. You must've made too many evil choices.

The MC also had sex with Violet without rape during my playthrough.

So you're saying, in his place, you'd be quite happy if some guy shot you in the head then stole the gift you'd got for your wheelchair bound daughter on her birthday and forced you into being some demon dickheads bitch?

I think you are well and truly alone in that one.
But what if the demon dickhead had tits? :unsure:
 
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Ilhares

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So you're saying, in his place, you'd be quite happy if some guy shot you in the head then stole the gift you'd got for your wheelchair bound daughter on her birthday and forced you into being some demon dickheads bitch?

I think you are well and truly alone in that one.
If my regular mortal life has ended, I guess I just don't see a point in holding grudges. It's not like it would ever un-fuck the situation.
 

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I never got round to trying this game and it's doubtful I would now since its abandoned.
But from the thred I gather the MC is murdered and then resurrected by a Demon for whatever reason?.
But this part of a post I won't name who but it did catch my attention.

"I tried to not be a total dick, and my options for the "guy who tried to kill me" were "break his arm" or "kill him".

The "tried to kill me" threw me at first because the consensus seems to be that you was killed.
But then you were resurrected by a Demon.
Which since resurrected means brought back from being dead the Guy didn't try to kill you he did kill you.
Otherwise he "tried to kill you" just means you were only nearly fatally wounded, you almost died but managed recover.
And it seems MC considers the resurrection to mean he never actually died hence "guy who tried to kill me"

Now I had a think about this :unsure: what would I do if was resurrected and I then met the man that had killed me.
And I knew he had actually killed me.
After a quite some thought I only came up with two questions.

Question 1, Why would picking either of these two options make you a total dick since they are aimed at the guy that actually killed you? surely he's the total dick for killing you?.

And the more important one.
Question 2, why is "break his arm" even an option? If someone killed me and I was brought back to life.
And I then met the guy that killed me if I still had my memorry that he killed me.
There really could only be one possible option and it sure as hell wouldn't be "break his arm".

Just Sayin.
 
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I never got round to trying this game and it's doubtful I would now since its abandoned.
But from the thred I gather the MC is murdered and then resurrected by a Demon for whatever reason?.
But this part of a post I won't name who but it did catch my attention.

"I tried to not be a total dick, and my options for the "guy who tried to kill me" were "break his arm" or "kill him".

The "tried to kill me" threw me at first because the consensus seems to be you that you was killed.
But then you were resurrected by a Demon.
Which since resurrected means brought back from being dead means the Guy didn't try to kill you he did kill you.
Otherwise he "tried to kill you" just means you were only nearly fatally wounded you almost died but managed recover.
And it seems MC consider the resurrection to mean he never actually died hence "guy who to kill me"

Now I had a think about this :unsure: what would I do if was resurrected and I then met the man that had killed me.
And I knew he had actually killed me.
After a quite some thought I only came up with two questions.

Question 1, Why would picking either of these two options make you a total dick since the they are aimed at the guy that actually killed you surely he's the total dick for killing you?.

And the more important one.
Question 2, why is "break his arm" even an option? If someone killed me and I was brought back to life.
And I then met the guy that killed me if I still had my memorry that he killed me.
There really could only be one possible option and it sure as hell wouldn't be "break his arm".

Just Sayin.
I did play this and I did kill him. No remorse either. But, I am a dick, so, there was no other choice in my mind about it either. But, no matter which choice you choose, you get bitched out. lol So, why let the guy off with a broken arm, if you're going to get shit over it no matter what?
 
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