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Incendax

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I never considered this approach for her, I'll keep this in mind, but no promises.
It's a minor thing, you're doing a great job! The MC does mention that it would probably be a bad idea to ever take her Genex because it could mess with his ability to touch anyone else. If you did anything (which is not necessary) it could just be a "I want to take her Genex!" > "And everyone became terrified of your touch from then on. GAME OVER!" Could even have an Info for the choice that is like "This is a BAD idea!" :D
 
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Nobles

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So whats his fear stat, and how do you get girls to fear you. I assume its a good thing ? Jennika seems to do pretty well with it.
 

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It's a minor thing, you're doing a great job! The MC does mention that it would probably be a bad idea to ever take her Genex because it could mess with his ability to touch anyone else. If you did anything (which is not necessary) it could just be a "I want to take her Genex!" > "And everyone became terrified of your touch from then on. GAME OVER!" Could even have an Info for the choice that is like "This is a BAD idea!" :D
Well, it makes somewhat sense... But that ability ain't passive one. MC would still have to use it and touch someone as Jen is doing. Imagine having this ability and touching both Ginger and Karma. They will quickly go from "Fuck you, hero scum!" to kneeling in front of you and saying "We've been bad, Master Biggus Dickus, very, very bad. Please punish us." Imagine having this ability in last fight. Making all those goons who touched MC compliant.

Also, it's not like MC have to use all of abilities he fucked away. But having greater selection of abilities surely won't hurt.
 
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zh

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So... I tried a second playthrough where I tried to "min-max" the "HERO" branch... With a lot of "save-scum" shenanigans (I'm not gonna hide it :geek: ).

And here is the end-game screen I got:

End_game_screen_01.jpg

I'm pretty sure I should have focused A LOT more on stats rather than trying to reach an extra level on the late days, but... At least I got three abilities (Superstrengh, Wind, Speed) at level 3 :unsure:

I'm pretty sure I'm missing some stuff (underdevelopped-auto-prison), weird character stats, but it is what it is.
edit : looks like I also missed some HERO points too lol
 
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Well, it makes somewhat sense... But that ability ain't passive one. MC would still have to use it and touch someone as Jen is doing. Imagine having this ability and touching both Ginger and Karma. They will quickly go from "Fuck you, hero scum!" to kneeling in front of you and saying "We've been bad, Master Biggus Dickus, very, very bad. Please punish us." Imagine having this ability in last fight. Making all those goons who touched MC compliant.

Also, it's not like MC have to use all of abilities he fucked away. But having greater selection of abilities surely won't hurt.
Jen's ability is passive, she can't turn it off, that's her main issue in normal/loving life.

If MC were to steal it, he may not be able to control it either.
 

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So I didnt reply to "spider Gwen" as I wanted to see some brother sister love. not chasing his hero identity. But then Ive kinda not see anything of kate since. Even now that im at the forest lodge. Does this mean theres nothing more for the brother/sister bonding ? Like I saw it say train with Kate on day 24 (, but nothing happened. So I assume this path hasnt been made yet ? I thought her blood licking scene was very interesting. I liked it in some wierd way and this could be going places.. But its gone nowhere yet :/

I was expecting the hero phone to be used for emergency's ? Could it mean all content was canceled with that one choice ? Nothing was mentioned about it in the hints. . Or is there more to come with Kate later in the story ? Really did like Kate character so kinda why im asking.
 
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Man I am so disappointed that Winter got relegated to this weird prison system. I hoped we were going to get more with the character, considering she was a large part of the early days. But now her character seems to regress to pure animal and we get some super short renders and a couple of convo topics and that's it?

Just finished part 1 and overall enjoyed it but was super disappointed with this decision. #SaveWinter :(
 
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Man I am so disappointed that Winter got relegated to this weird prison system. I hoped we were going to get more with the character, considering she was a large part of the early days. But now her character seems to regress to pure animal and we get some super short renders and a couple of convo topics and that's it?

Just finished part 1 and overall enjoyed it but was super disappointed with this decision. #SaveWinter :(
It's true that this character had a lot of potential. Now she is just like a caged bird :cry:
But who knows, maybe there is still more to her. Maybe she's spying MC, working for some sort of scientist/villain/hero whose goal would be to monitor/analyze MC's power. Or something like that :ROFLMAO:
 

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Man I am so disappointed that Winter got relegated to this weird prison system. I hoped we were going to get more with the character, considering she was a large part of the early days. But now her character seems to regress to pure animal and we get some super short renders and a couple of convo topics and that's it?

Just finished part 1 and overall enjoyed it but was super disappointed with this decision. #SaveWinter :(

I think there will be more with Winter coming in time.
I'm basing this off of how the story has been written with her.
The writing with her is she loses , goes away comes back stronger.
Winter is one of the better written, its hard not to see that.

Winter will likely come back with a good story once the prison system is more done.
I think how she reacts will likely depend on what you did to her and kitty.
I'd be willing to argue that she has one of the better story lines written without any contradictions.
(Lynx being the main reference on that)
Clover may say I put too much thought into Lynx lol

The problem right now is the amount of people being pushed.
Winter will make a come back, given how well shes been written and shown in the spot light.
Its hard not to believe Fin puts extra love into Winter.

There is a few things that will be addressed before she has her come back.
The cave will likely see a bit more, events to cut away some of the fat.
We can only guess what will happen in his "coma" at the moment.

I can only guess to what may come next but with the answer I got from Fin Earlier was that,
Redmoon will teach the M.C. how "not" to waste so much energy in his super strength attacks.
Which I figure it will either just amount to a level up or cut out your HP loss during the boost, more so the former than latter.

With that being said...
We will likely see Hero's come into play and stories that way.
A bit of clean up on the Cave story line.
I think once you wake up and get out of the Thread, you will have to spend time with the name you called out at the end of this update.

Which I just played with Amanda as the LI choice, I liked how she went from calling you perv to hero.
Nice touch on that with her.

I'm also not implying you will fight her when she makes her comeback.
Just that she will see the spot light once again.
 

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Yeah I liked Winter right from the early version I played she appeared. I wish there was a choice that we could make the MC not so hard on her. Especially going down Anti-hero minset. Now that his building up his Monster harem and taming. You'd think he be making htem his allies.

I just got to the event where Winter returned during the nigh (after her prison break ?) t and the MC is still butt hurt she killed and shit.. But I dont give a fuck what she did previously. There monsters, they do that.. When you tame/own them, then they kill for you. Is that simple. I kinda wished our monster harem would turn into our private army/minions. Winter cuold be the leader of them.. But then when MCs sucking their abilties dry, then they become uselss :/ I see MCs sucking ability more like a curse for this reason. Just look back on redmoon, Shes crippled.

In Winters case, she has been nice to him, treated him like an exception. All she wanted to do was mate, and she gave him good intel at the prison. At worst she just played around, but shes had no intent to kill him. She didnt really harm Erick either. MC still looks at her like some evil scum. Frustrates me. He doesnt have the forsight. That she could aid him alot.
 
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Yeah I liked Winter right from the early version I played she appeared. I wish there was a choice that we could make the MC not so hard on her. Especially going down Anti-hero minset. Now that his building up his Monster harem and taming. You'd think he be making htem his allies.

I just got to the event where Winter returned during the nigh (after her prison break ?) t and the MC is still butt hurt she killed and shit.. But I dont give a fuck what she did previously. There monsters, they do that.. When you tame/own them, then they kill for you. Is that simple. I kinda wished our monster harem would turn into our private army/minions. Winter cuold be the leader of them.. But then when MCs sucking their abilties dry, then they become uselss :/ I see MCs sucking ability more like a curse for this reason. Just look back on redmoon, Shes crippled.

In Winters case, she has been nice to him, treated him like an exception. All she wanted to do was mate, and she gave him good intel at the prison. At worst she just played around, but shes had no intent to kill him. She didnt really harm Erick either. MC still looks at her like some evil scum. Frustrates me. He doesnt have the forsight. That she could aid him alot.

I dont know if I would use the words butt hurt, but he would have been scared.
She had given him a beat down pretty bad and then to later show up in his bed at his home.
Imagine being woken up at night by someone who you fought earlier, regardless of winning or losing.
Your mind set wouldn't be right in that moment.
Yes, he should have eventually calmed down.
But being woken up in that way by someone saying they tracked your sent, would make your mind race.
Even if you were calm from it being Winter, your mind would still be racing about others able to track you.
Scaring you once again or even more, giving you a feeling of never safe.


As for the monster harem.
Its likely she will be the leader, as given her writing of coming back stronger.
However make note that hes teaching them to understand humans.
We dont know if this is to avoid humans and be free or be in a forever captured state (or rather put them living in that cave)
The whole cave thing could be an end game thing of an army we dont know yet.
However one thing to make note is Winter also said since being with the M.C. she also changed.
Its also worth noting as much as she views him extremely favorable, she hides information from him.
(talk to her in the dungeon, she refuses to speak about things)

His Ability taking doesn't remove it, we got roughly an idea of what he takes.
Its not all, but a portion of it so they still have, just weakened down to 60% of what it was, so the M.C. only gets 40% if I remember the numbers amount right.
Its not a curse, its a drain and even drains their energy for a set (never said yet) amount of time.
I'd assume its a few days at least.
(Also to note that, the recovery time is noticeable, that it concerns Erick about you stealing Hero's powers later on,
this is likely written in to let the player know they are still effected after a nights sleep.)

I think Winter does see him as "mate" material (so we agree on that) or possibly even hers which I'm slowly leaning towards.
Normally I use the option of that second fight when she has Erick, to surrender first, because I get a kick out of her saying
"are you for real!?" then to just fuck her after she has her fun.
When shes in control sexually she still comes across as kinda gentle to the M.C.


With her not harming Erick, I think if it had been someone else, she would kill them at that point.
But she doesn't want to harm or upset the M.C. , Erick is just to grab his attention.
That is why its Erick. He's being used as bait.
She probably smelled you faintly on him assuming you were friends (or something to that effect)

I dont really play as bad but I dont think he see's Winter as scum.
Mind you I play mostly as Hero/True hero.
So my memories are mostly of that.

If you play down right evil, he's just a murderous asshole.
Usually people like that will Justify their actions to any degree.
 
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hmm yeah probably right about Eric, had he not been bait, she would of erm... wouldnt of ended well for him. Thnk I did overlook some stuff.

I m kinda glad hes keeping them to himself now at least, not sending them to the Thead anymore. Then Winter mentioning she was lucky to keep her limbs, makes it seem like theres some dark shit going on down there. I kinda suspected it anyway. Those types are not as good as they say they are. Which im kinda glad the games not forcing us to join them :)
 
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hmm yeah probably right about Eric, had he not been bait, she would of erm... wouldnt of ended well for him. Thnk I did overlook some stuff.

I m kinda glad hes keeping them to himself now at least, not sending them to the Thead anymore. Then Winter mentioning she was lucky to keep her limbs, makes it seem like theres some dark shit going on down there. I kinda suspected it anyway. Those types are not as good as they say they are. Which im kinda glad the games not forcing us to join them :)
Don't feel bad I've had to look stuff over a few times.
I think I made Clovers eyes bleed when talking about stuff LMAO.
That's one reason I like talking in games I like.
You never know if you have a wrong or misguided view point.
Happens to me more than I care to admit to :)

I have my view on The Thread.
I think it was built for using them as test subjects.
The fact that Shin made the comment of many Hero's not being good,
mixed with the fact Erick questions who he can really trust.
Then only states one name he trusts..... Ouch on that thought.
The argument there is how many did he actually get close to, however its a bad out look regardless.

Adds to my belief how bad they are.
Not to mention Winter's comments.
Then.... I wonder if Whispers response to you at the end of 3.5B might be warranted.
When she asks your powers right off the hop, even though at that point you've made a name for yourself.
So your powers should kinda be known at least the super power any way.
(Remember the cosplay event, they thought you were a cosplayer. Just like Lynx's sister forgot her name.)


So I'm of mixed feelings on her response,
When you have Hero's who claim they dont agree with others actions,
Then your questioned so quickly by Whisper.
Its all subjective.
At least at the end of 3.5B , whisper is shown to trust you a more than when she saw you initially.
Though I think that ending sets up the Love Interest with Whisper as we know from Fin she is one of the options.
 
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