Dyhart
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It's alarming even in people who only know English. It's there first and only language.
Then you have the people who hilariously defend "I could care less".
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Then you have the people who hilariously defend "I could care less".
AbaddonR
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Thank you for the reply! I had no idea there were "ACTUAL" paths as most VNs nowadays don't really do that as often. I shall restart making different choices. Again, thank you
It's even funnier when people post in the wrong place. That comment was for a different game, not this one XD.
You're bringing up a point I already cleared up a while ago. There's no Jackie in this game, so the author of the post got the wrong game.
dude no one liked this update. walking around naked looking like a idiot. magical powers and should be labled kinetic novel cause you have no choices in this game. your just randomly killing off girls and other people doing the decisions. don't know what your smoking but I'd like some to even think this was good and your 0.4 in this already.
it's pure crap and I won't waste my time downloading this no more. good job milking this though.
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Dyhart
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Oh don't worry, I wasn't having a go at you.
But yeah pretty funny how someone can play the game for that length of time and think this is the game they were playing.
First decision, the game splits into two different paths. Second decision, it will affect the MC's behavior in the future. Third decision, the same. Fourth decision, the MC can die... ok, nothing important...
As I said, this is not for you... and by your reaction, I'm glad you're leaving. Bye
Well, I've had my fights for the day. Now I'm out until the next update, take care
EDIT: LOL, after a private message I got—and had the bad idea of replying to, wasting my time like an idiot—please don’t ask me anything in private, 'cause I’m not gonna answer from now on.
Then y’all wonder why so many developers don’t even bother wasting their time here... It’s because of you. Not all of you, obviously, but some cases are just... special.
Thanks.
EDIT: LOL, after a private message I got—and had the bad idea of replying to, wasting my time like an idiot—please don’t ask me anything in private, 'cause I’m not gonna answer from now on.
Then y’all wonder why so many developers don’t even bother wasting their time here... It’s because of you. Not all of you, obviously, but some cases are just... special.
Thanks.
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Personally, I could care less, but I think you mean "their" and not "there".
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Loaded save from October and it took me back to the main menu and said wait for the next update...
Niels Holgersson
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Nice update. I still like the story. I think it is good that is teases more sex than it does deliver. Keeps the excitement up. I like the mystery box, but I get the impression that there are is too much introduced already. I hope the mystery slows down a bit so that we can spend more time with the characters.
whoa this was fantastic... I found a new favorite.
that said, dev if you read this, it'd be nice if you settled on video files for animations... they're all over the place right now, and it'd be better to just use video files instead of animating them directly in renpy... should be smoother too.
other than that, love it... very ambitious branching, so good luck with that
also, fuck the naysayers... let the dev cook, this is more unique than 99% of garbage in this site... if you don't like it go play incest harem #35456...
that said, dev if you read this, it'd be nice if you settled on video files for animations... they're all over the place right now, and it'd be better to just use video files instead of animating them directly in renpy... should be smoother too.
other than that, love it... very ambitious branching, so good luck with that
also, fuck the naysayers... let the dev cook, this is more unique than 99% of garbage in this site... if you don't like it go play incest harem #35456...
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parceload
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I haven't played that in 6 years and I still think about that fire from time to time
Raziel_8
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Never understood why it felt so impactful to so many.
I was just mostly pissed at the sudden theme switch and medicore writen drama which followed.
Also my main was the one with blue hair, so i didn't particular care about the fire, if i'm honest.
Niels Holgersson
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I think that the new content is the other path that our hero takes, but I have never taken that path before, but you are right in one thing, it stops exactly at the same spot.
I just read a recent review from MikesDK, and I'm gonna reply. Of course, he can't know certain things, and under that assumption, he might actually have a good point. So, I'm gonna try to clarify some things that have been discussed quite a while ago on my Patreon and that, as I said, you wouldn't necessarily know here...
Starting with the topic of forced choices, which was even discussed here a while ago... There isn’t a single game that doesn’t make you do things according to the needs of the story. Some games just make it more or less noticeable. Here, maybe at first, it stands out more. You can’t control who’s part of the harem… because this isn’t about managing a harem. You can’t choose your team members because I need control over future events… and those future events are the competitions.
Every character in the game has their own stats, even though this isn’t an RPG. If anyone bothers to check the code (which isn’t even hidden, it’s right there for anyone to see), they’ll notice a ton of variables assigned to each character. A good chunk of them will be used in competitions… Besides stats, there’s also a random factor that helps determine the outcome of each competition. The idea is that things never play out the same way when you replay.
Before each competition, you'll have two choices. You can let things unfold naturally, making several decisions along the way and dealing with whatever risks come with it… or you can play in easy mode, where everything is scripted, and there’s no real danger for your team (but the story events will still happen as intended).
If you let things play out naturally, that’s when variables and stats take over, and I have to plan dialogues, create scenes, and then render everything. This means I have to create two or three temporary paths for every decision… For example, at the start, there’s a race where you have to try and catch up with the women who started several minutes ahead… Do I start sprinting at full speed? Path 1. The race is pretty long… Do I go at a medium pace? Path 2. Do I start slow? Path 3… Each of these paths leads to different events, and within those events, there are even more choices, creating more and more branching possibilities… Now imagine what would happen if I didn’t have control over who’s on the team… What you’re asking for is simply impossible. I’ll say it one last time—this is not a normal game.
On top of that, and this isn’t the first time, people assume things that haven’t even happened yet as if they were facts, as if they had already taken place. This is what he says in his review:
"And ofc one of the main aspects of gaining points is by having sex aka forced sex with whoever whenever and that makes it feel very very kinetic and it is 100% kinetic right now, all you decide is who to fuck first and that’s it."
You're falling into the trap. You're assuming that everything Emma says is the absolute truth, without considering that she doesn’t know everything and that some of the things she thinks she knows are actually outdated information... even Mother told MC not to fully trust what Emma says... and here you are, thinking Emma is the embodiment of truth.
And I feel (just my personal opinion) that you're being unfair about the Kinetic thing... Like I’ve said before, the first decision you make creates a completely different route where you meet characters you wouldn’t see until much later in the original path. The reasoning behind this has already been discussed, though I don’t recall if it was here or on Patreon.
There are also two other choices that might seem irrelevant for now, but that’s by design—you wouldn’t notice their significance unless you looked at the code. These two choices affect a behavioral variable in MC and will have consequences later, starting from the first competition. Right now, MC has a rather naive and impulsive personality. That is completely intentional—I made it that way because it’s necessary for future changes to feel meaningful and natural. If MC were sharp, analytical, highly perceptive from the get-go… there wouldn’t be much room for growth later.
And you're overlooking one of the most important choices... If you pick the wrong option, MC can die. What’s Kinetic about that?... Are you completely sure you actually played before reviewing?.
"Theres also some weird side plot where people are mutans of some kind and that includes the MC."
Okay?... No, you didn’t play... This isn’t some weird side plot. It’s part of the main plot. The only reason everyone is there is because they’re mutants... If you're going to skip the text, I’ll say it again: this isn’t a normal game. You’re going to miss important stuff that helps understand the story. This game is all about the story and the competitions.
Yeah, there’s sex, sometimes a lot, sometimes just a little, but this isn’t really about the sex... It’s just an added part of human nature. This isn’t about controlling a harem, it’s not about romance or love... It’s about human relationships and how they change in extreme situations. It’s about surviving. When survival’s at stake, no one is purely good or purely bad. Although, yes, there is one genuinely evil person...
Starting with the topic of forced choices, which was even discussed here a while ago... There isn’t a single game that doesn’t make you do things according to the needs of the story. Some games just make it more or less noticeable. Here, maybe at first, it stands out more. You can’t control who’s part of the harem… because this isn’t about managing a harem. You can’t choose your team members because I need control over future events… and those future events are the competitions.
Every character in the game has their own stats, even though this isn’t an RPG. If anyone bothers to check the code (which isn’t even hidden, it’s right there for anyone to see), they’ll notice a ton of variables assigned to each character. A good chunk of them will be used in competitions… Besides stats, there’s also a random factor that helps determine the outcome of each competition. The idea is that things never play out the same way when you replay.
Before each competition, you'll have two choices. You can let things unfold naturally, making several decisions along the way and dealing with whatever risks come with it… or you can play in easy mode, where everything is scripted, and there’s no real danger for your team (but the story events will still happen as intended).
If you let things play out naturally, that’s when variables and stats take over, and I have to plan dialogues, create scenes, and then render everything. This means I have to create two or three temporary paths for every decision… For example, at the start, there’s a race where you have to try and catch up with the women who started several minutes ahead… Do I start sprinting at full speed? Path 1. The race is pretty long… Do I go at a medium pace? Path 2. Do I start slow? Path 3… Each of these paths leads to different events, and within those events, there are even more choices, creating more and more branching possibilities… Now imagine what would happen if I didn’t have control over who’s on the team… What you’re asking for is simply impossible. I’ll say it one last time—this is not a normal game.
On top of that, and this isn’t the first time, people assume things that haven’t even happened yet as if they were facts, as if they had already taken place. This is what he says in his review:
"And ofc one of the main aspects of gaining points is by having sex aka forced sex with whoever whenever and that makes it feel very very kinetic and it is 100% kinetic right now, all you decide is who to fuck first and that’s it."
You're falling into the trap. You're assuming that everything Emma says is the absolute truth, without considering that she doesn’t know everything and that some of the things she thinks she knows are actually outdated information... even Mother told MC not to fully trust what Emma says... and here you are, thinking Emma is the embodiment of truth.
And I feel (just my personal opinion) that you're being unfair about the Kinetic thing... Like I’ve said before, the first decision you make creates a completely different route where you meet characters you wouldn’t see until much later in the original path. The reasoning behind this has already been discussed, though I don’t recall if it was here or on Patreon.
There are also two other choices that might seem irrelevant for now, but that’s by design—you wouldn’t notice their significance unless you looked at the code. These two choices affect a behavioral variable in MC and will have consequences later, starting from the first competition. Right now, MC has a rather naive and impulsive personality. That is completely intentional—I made it that way because it’s necessary for future changes to feel meaningful and natural. If MC were sharp, analytical, highly perceptive from the get-go… there wouldn’t be much room for growth later.
And you're overlooking one of the most important choices... If you pick the wrong option, MC can die. What’s Kinetic about that?... Are you completely sure you actually played before reviewing?.
"Theres also some weird side plot where people are mutans of some kind and that includes the MC."
Okay?... No, you didn’t play... This isn’t some weird side plot. It’s part of the main plot. The only reason everyone is there is because they’re mutants... If you're going to skip the text, I’ll say it again: this isn’t a normal game. You’re going to miss important stuff that helps understand the story. This game is all about the story and the competitions.
Yeah, there’s sex, sometimes a lot, sometimes just a little, but this isn’t really about the sex... It’s just an added part of human nature. This isn’t about controlling a harem, it’s not about romance or love... It’s about human relationships and how they change in extreme situations. It’s about surviving. When survival’s at stake, no one is purely good or purely bad. Although, yes, there is one genuinely evil person...
Starting with the topic of forced choices, which was even discussed here a while ago... There isn’t a single game that doesn’t make you do things according to the needs of the story.
Thats a joke right? you cant be serious with such a comment.....theres a shitload of stories where you deside every thing where you can freely pick who to have relationships with, who to fuck, who to make pregnant or not, thats what a visual novel is supposed to be....having narrative branches meaning
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novel....some is just a copy/paste from wiki since im to lazzy to write it all.....In an adult novel to me personaly and alot of others, the most importen aspect is the relationships and sex part, meaning freedom of choice unless its a kinetic novel and you simply just dont have any freedom in this, its more in-line with kinetic/linear when it comes to sex and thats what i hate and no its not just Emma saying theres alot of points to be had from sex she has nothing to do with it, its due to no matter which route you pick at the start with the 2 girls (bad route? i think) or if you turn them down, both routes has forced sex scenes which makes it a fuckfest with forced harems and that im just not into.
I know you cant give freedom of choice with 18 girls at the start i know it would take a billion renders due to any combos of 4 girls and all that shit, but you could very easy give the choice to not have sex with someone and not force a single sex scene, it comes down to what your plan is, if its to make a fuckfest competition like Emma talks about or a choice driven survival game in the hunger games style with a mutant twist, but sadly it looks like you went the fuckfest route.
To me main plot would be to get out alive and side plot is due to them being mutants but call it main plot it dosent really change anything, i dident skip anything untill it started forcing relationship/sex scenes then i did since i dont like kinetic/linear games.
And you're overlooking one of the most important choices... If you pick the wrong option, MC can die. What’s Kinetic about that?... Are you completely sure you actually played before reviewing?.
Thats called fake choices which is commen in linear/kinetic novels where you have no real choice and no i never saw that or i would have warned people about fake choices as well since that will always be an idiotic thing to have in a game, i tried both routes and never saw MC getting killed, i dont try out every single choice in every game who would? so never saw that.