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[acusrola]

When creating a geoshell for a model with Golden Palace and/or Dicktator/Futalicious they are added into the "shell" tab with the on/off button for shell visibility.

My questions is, does anyone know how can I add other items to the model geoshell specifically so that I would have a single geoshell with all "attachements" of a model?

I've been looking through some of the settings in for example scene id, but can't see anything specific that could help. The only thing I can guess quickly would be that GP / Dicktator is a geograft and that somehow applies.

 

[osanaiko]

When creating a geoshell for a model with Golden Palace and/or Dicktator/Futalicious they are added into the "shell" tab with the on/off button for shell visibility.

My questions is, does anyone know how can I add other items to the model geoshell specifically so that I would have a single geoshell with all "attachements" of a model?

I've been looking through some of the settings in for example scene id, but can't see anything specific that could help. The only thing I can guess quickly would be that GP / Dicktator is a geograft and that somehow applies.

Geoshells act as a layer outside the object which can have different surface applied but are still perfectly aligned to the object.

I think geoshells are created as an "addon" to existing geometry.

They are not "objects" that are added to the scene, nor are they like geografts which are objects that "attach" to a figure by welding to specific vertexes.

The geoshell of e.g. dicktator is only applied to the geograft part, not the whole model (i think...!).

 

[acusrola]

Geoshells act as a layer outside the object which can have different surface applied but are still perfectly aligned to the object.

I think geoshells are created as an "addon" to existing geometry.

They are not "objects" that are added to the scene, nor are they like geografts which are objects that "attach" to a figure by welding to specific vertexes.

The geoshell of e.g. dicktator is only applied to the geograft part, not the whole model (i think...!).

I understand what geoshells are, everything you said was correct - except...


Here's a screen from DAZ, left image is GP shell that comes with GP, and right is a geoshell I applied. The geoshell of GP is only applied to GP to make the blending work I think. So yeah, that's right it's only applied to the geograft, but it is still available for the base geoshell as well.

But my question still remains. How could I add other items to the base GS? It'd be helpful to have items in the base GS to ease with mesh smoothing. Now I have to do it through dforce simming and it's not always super handy.

 

[chudashi]

I understand what geoshells are, everything you said was correct - except...

View attachment 1823120
Here's a screen from DAZ, left image is GP shell that comes with GP, and right is a geoshell I applied. The geoshell of GP is only applied to GP to make the blending work I think. So yeah, that's right it's only applied to the geograft, but it is still available for the base geoshell as well.

But my question still remains. How could I add other items to the base GS? It'd be helpful to have items in the base GS to ease with mesh smoothing. Now I have to do it through dforce simming and it's not always super handy.

what other items are you trying to add?

 

[osanaiko]

I understand what geoshells are, everything you said was correct - except...

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Here's a screen from DAZ, left image is GP shell that comes with GP, and right is a geoshell I applied. The geoshell of GP is only applied to GP to make the blending work I think. So yeah, that's right it's only applied to the geograft, but it is still available for the base geoshell as well.

But my question still remains. How could I add other items to the base GS? It'd be helpful to have items in the base GS to ease with mesh smoothing. Now I have to do it through dforce simming and it's not always super handy.

Ahh, you're correct. I'm out of my knowledge depth now. Sorry I can't help.

 

[Cyanchan]

I am beyond frustrated right now. I'm extremely new to DAZ.
I tried a lot of models and the eyelashes are like this


Help me, please.

 

[MissFortune]

I am beyond frustrated right now. I'm extremely new to DAZ.
I tried a lot of models and the eyelashes are like this
View attachment 1825996 View attachment 1825997

Help me, please.

Not to a be dick, but you can't just post pictures and expect people to help you with no context. What is the model? How are you loading them model? Are you using the eyelashes that came with the model? Is the model selected when you add the eyelashes? When you're adding the eyelashes, is there a RSL (3Delight) and a MDL (Iray) option? If so, choose the MDL (which looks like it could be the issue here.) option. Are you using external lashes? If so, from who? Is a lash set? From another model? Are they LIE? Have you checked out a beginners tutorial for Daz? Parmy has

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. Follow what he does and see if you still get an issue.

The only time I've come across something like this personally is when I put on another figure's makeup (or something of that sort) and Ctrl + Z it, but even then, they're usually white.

 

[osanaiko]

I tried a lot of models and the eyelashes are like this

It kind of reminds me of some weird hair artifacts I got when I had the viewport rendering set to "interactive" rather than "photoreal"

 

[Cyanchan]

Not to a be dick, but you can't just post pictures and expect people to help you with no context. What is the model? How are you loading them model? Are you using the eyelashes that came with the model? Is the model selected when you add the eyelashes? When you're adding the eyelashes, is there a RSL (3Delight) and a MDL (Iray) option? If so, choose the MDL (which looks like it could be the issue here.) option. Are you using external lashes? If so, from who? Is a lash set? From another model? Are they LIE? Have you checked out a beginners tutorial for Daz? Parmy has

You must be registered to see the links

. Follow what he does and see if you still get an issue.

The only time I've come across something like this personally is when I put on another figure's makeup (or something of that sort) and Ctrl + Z it, but even then, they're usually white.

Thanks for your reply
I'm using this artist's model
https://f95zone.to/threads/gcc-doa-momiji-for-g8f.78183/

I just loads the whole model normally, nothing else is done.
Other artists' models do not present a problem.

 

[MissFortune]

Thanks for your reply
I'm using this artist's model
https://f95zone.to/threads/gcc-doa-momiji-for-g8f.78183/

I just loads the whole model normally, nothing else is done.
Other artists' models do not present a problem.

It cut off my settings at the end, so I attached a recording of the recording of my settings below the top video. Ignore the 4K resolution, completely unnecessary here. Same for the samples/time on Progressive Rendering. Top video shows the typical setup process, then the last is settings I'm currently using. If that doesn't work, then I'm wondering there's something funky going on with the maps.


Hopefully this helps a bit.

 

[Cyanchan]

It cut off my settings at the end, so I attached a recording of the recording of my settings below the top video. Ignore the 4K resolution, completely unnecessary here. Same for the samples/time on Progressive Rendering. Top video shows the typical setup process, then the last is settings I'm currently using. If that doesn't work, then I'm wondering there's something funky going on with the maps.


Hopefully this helps a bit.

I've got it. eyelashes become normal
Thank you so much for your help.

 

[MissFortune]

I've got it. eyelashes become normal
Thank you so much for your help.

If you don't mind answering, I'm sort of curious what the issue was and what fixed it?

 

[tripod70]

I need some assistance!! ( Again )
I have made a few animations already, but the one that I ma setting up now the characters jump all over the place ie: from one end of the setting to another with each frame ???
Is there a way to clear the key frame buffer ( where the characters move from place to place ) I think I had this issue once before a while back, but don't remember what or how I fixed it, or even if I gave up...
I hope I worded this right to be understood..


The other issue I had is on the back burner for the moment. I have came to the conclusion that the rendering time issue is somewhere in the asset itself. ??? I think something got corrupted some how. But for now I have this issue...

 

[mickydoo]

I need some assistance!! ( Again )
I have made a few animations already, but the one that I ma setting up now the characters jump all over the place ie: from one end of the setting to another with each frame ???
Is there a way to clear the key frame buffer ( where the characters move from place to place ) I think I had this issue once before a while back, but don't remember what or how I fixed it, or even if I gave up...
I hope I worded this right to be understood..


The other issue I had is on the back burner for the moment. I have came to the conclusion that the rendering time issue is somewhere in the asset itself. ??? I think something got corrupted some how. But for now I have this issue...

If you mean the whole animation just slide the slider thingy back to zero and save it then reload it, there are other ways but this is the easiest.

 

[tripod70]

If you mean the whole animation just slide the slider thingy back to zero and save it then reload it, there are other ways but this is the easiest.

I'll see if I can get a couple of screen shots to better explain. It's just one character that moves this time ???

 

[tripod70]

If you mean the whole animation just slide the slider thingy back to zero and save it then reload it, there are other ways but this is the easiest.

Here is a few screen shots. ??? Male moves all over the area????? But never back to start position.

 

[3D Reaver]

loading the same character causes it to take longer to load. Looking into the log i found this

2022-05-23 20:41:43.716 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
2022-05-23 20:41:43.734
2022-05-23 20:42:18.872 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (open): 0m 59.114s

2022-05-23 20:43:48.933 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
2022-05-23 20:45:07.299
2022-05-23 20:45:29.136 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 1m 52.885

2022-05-23 20:46:37.441 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
2022-05-23 20:49:02.575
2022-05-23 20:49:24.671 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 2m 59.888s

I loaded the same character just to try and isolate the issue but the same happens with every new character i add regardless.

Any ideas ? having a char load in 1 minute is one thing, having every other character take one minute more for each character you load is insane.

I will have to say that this happens when i load custom characters that are saved as scene subset.
loading standard characters doesn't make them take progressively longer to load.

 

[MissFortune]

loading the same character causes it to take longer to load. Looking into the log i found this

2022-05-23 20:41:43.716 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
2022-05-23 20:41:43.734
2022-05-23 20:42:18.872 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (open): 0m 59.114s

2022-05-23 20:43:48.933 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
2022-05-23 20:45:07.299
2022-05-23 20:45:29.136 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 1m 52.885

2022-05-23 20:46:37.441 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
2022-05-23 20:49:02.575
2022-05-23 20:49:24.671 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 2m 59.888s

I loaded the same character just to try and isolate the issue but the same happens with every new character i add regardless.

Any ideas ? having a char load in 1 minute is one thing, having every other character take one minute more for each character you load is insane.

I will have to say that this happens when i load custom characters that are saved as scene subset.
loading standard characters doesn't make them take progressively longer to load.

A minute or so is completely normal.

It'll only get longer as the models get higher quality, unless Daz decides to rebuild the software foundationally. Even with a faster computer. It's usually the character being loaded with all the morphs and such. I believe there are some plugins/scripts/etc. that can take care of this. Other things can be causing this as well, some of the Inked Tattoo assets cause quite long loading times, for one reason another. Couldn't tell you why.

As for saving characters as a scene subset, I personally find that quite inefficient, but that's totally subjective. Try saving your character and his/her clothes as their respective presets (File > Save As > Character Preset and File > Save As > Wearables Preset, respectively.). My speeds seem a bit faster doing it that way, but that's completely circumstantial.

 

[osanaiko]

Could it be related to LIEs? Are those re-calculated at load time?

The other thing could be if you have a lot of morphs installed that are applicable to the figure type - Daz has* to load every morph just in case the saved figure has one of them applied.

*a very interesting architectural decision that makes using the software a much worse experience.

 

[MissFortune]

*a very interesting architectural decision that makes using the software a much worse experience.

I saw a discussion in a thread on the Daz forum talking about delaying Daz Studio 5, and there were some who were speculating that they're doing it to work on stuff like the way morphs were loaded, the timeline, and other known problematic areas of the software. Though, with Daz being. . .well, Daz, it's also just as likely that they break a bunch of stuff on release.