VN Ren'Py A Couple's Duet of Love & Lust [v0.12.7] [King B]

[WatsonJohn]

For those who want Nat with Carl, honest question.
Why? Why should she, a attractive successful (at least in the past) woman with a decent marriage be the sex teacher to a timid virgin?
Just because its different or unexpected doesn't make it good, at least in my experience.

Turn Carl into a pay pig.

 

[Brokebacker]

For those who want Nat with Carl, honest question.
Why? Why should she, a attractive successful (at least in the past) woman with a decent marriage be the sex teacher to a timid virgin?
Just because its different or unexpected doesn't make it good, at least in my experience.

You know what she should do is lead him on and tease him, and slowly start convincing him that he is not meant to have sex with beautiful women like her, but he can watch if he pays.
A timid virgin like him will do whatever she says just to get a glimpse. And now that she knows what a cuckold is, she should be able to spot one easily.
She can even ask Ethan to help carl understand.

 

[L0b0ts]

You know what she should do is lead him on and tease him, and slowly start convincing him that he is not meant to have sex with beautiful women like her, but he can watch if he pays.
A timid virgin like him will do whatever she says just to get a glimpse. And now that she knows what a cuckold is, she should be able to spot one easily.
She can even ask Ethan to help carl understand.

She should use him to cuck Ethan and get Ethan real jealous, in the NTR vengeance path.

 

[Dastibal]

There was nothing in this update for the paths I enjoy playing either, but I will say that if you think every update needs a sexual encounter to be worth your time, then maybe go watch porn instead. Building tension and progression within a story is more important than mindlessly shoving sex scenes with no coherency or sensible progression. There are plenty of games that does just that and they lose their narrative within the first few updates, if they even had one to begin with.

If all you do is pump in sex scene, after sex scene then all the thrill and excitement goes away cause there is no build-up or sense of progression. The characters will start to feel like mindless robots cause you are neglecting the story and the thoughts/feelings of the characters.

Some of the hotter and more tense scenes in this game have been non-sex scenes, at least in my opinion. You don't need full on penetration to have an exciting scene with tension and meaningful progression.

Now say it without crying hahaha

If after almost 2 months there is no solid update, with Nat who is the protagonist being fucked, for me, the game loses its essence, nobody wants to see other people fucking other than Nat or the husband

hot scenes without sex? I don't think about it that way, but unlike you, I do respect the thoughts of others, everyone has their own taste, just because I think differently doesn't mean it's wrong.

 

[Big Rooster]

Yeah good idea.
The game should have a payback scene for the Matt and Ely content.
So it would be fair if Matt would witness the sex between Carl and Nat. (maybe spying on them)
Otherwise it would be a waste of potential if Nat only lusts for muscular cocky guys.
Right now she starts to come off as a bit heartless and mindless bitch.

In my preferred route...
Nat has Ethan for her loving and emotional needs, the other guys she bangs are about only sex. So what if she has a preference for well-endowed muscular men with alpha personalities? i.e. Some guys like skinny blonds, and some guys like buxom brunettes, so Nat has an idealized type, so what? If Nat hooks up with Carl, that would become a purely an emotional decision. Nat likes Carl and she cares about his feelings, but she doesn't lust for him. So in my thinking, Nat has some boundaries set between her sexual and emotional lives. Nat could coach Carl on what women want without banging him.

 

[Leongen43]

Nat's limits depend on how good his relationship with Ethan is, the worse it is his emotional and physical limits will be less, in the case of Carl every boy needs a good teacher to become a man and who better than Nat? so that you learn

 

[Pogo123]

puha... i normally like ntr games and curvy women but this... is a drag for me... way too much dialogue. nearly no choices for that amount of text and then most are just muscle and black guys... what if you want ntr and/or cuckold but not with muscle/black guys? no content for that yet... rushed through the game and still took me about 15 min... really damn unfortunate...

 

[Seittitgib]

In my preferred route...
Nat has Ethan for her loving and emotional needs, the other guys she bangs are about only sex. So what if she has a preference for well-endowed muscular men with alpha personalities? i.e. Some guys like skinny blonds, and some guys like buxom brunettes, so Nat has an idealized type, so what? If Nat hooks up with Carl, that would become a purely an emotional decision. Nat likes Carl and she cares about his feelings, but she doesn't lust for him. So in my thinking, Nat has some boundaries set between her sexual and emotional lives. Nat could coach Carl on what women want without banging him.

This is what I was thinking when I asked the question. Ethan is there to be the more reserved sexual being in Nat's life. I don't think she would need a second one. At least not in the routes where she remains on good terms with Ethan.
And she might have a preference for muscular guys as the reason Darrel caught her eye in the opening scene was due to his physique.

 

[Leongen43]

What I looked at about Darrel was his muscular bulge that stood out like a third bicep. If you look closely, she looks down and I don't think it's out of embarrassment.

 

[Big Rooster]

This is what I was thinking when I asked the question. Ethan is there to be the more reserved sexual being in Nat's life. I don't think she would need a second one. At least not in the routes where she remains on good terms with Ethan.
And she might have a preference for muscular guys as the reason Darrel caught her eye in the opening scene was due to his physique.

Most women admire a great body as well as men do and are drawn to confident men. A simp isn't going to get a gals' panties wet, so to naysayers to Darrel and Matt...

 

[Leongen43]

Nat is so attracted to Darrel and Mat because it is clear that he is not used to dealing with men this attractive and that they notice her a lot, that is something that I saw frequently in open and swinger relationships, Ethan does not He can compete with them physically so the only thing left is to improve his charisma so as not to lose Nat.

 

[WatsonJohn]

It doesn't make sense that Nat acts like Ethan is at fault for swinging/cuckoldry in some paths and the dev needs to fix this because it breaks consistency and this has existed for a long time. Let's say Ethan has good relationship with Nat and has a low cuck points but Nat pursued Darrel in the gym. After Nat and Ethan have sex, Ethan can either accept or deny going in cuck path at Nat's request. If Ethan later gets cold feet, Nat acts like it's Ethan's idea all along, and that she would grant Ethan's request but he would make no mention of "his fetish" anymore. To make this easier to see, it's like going to Ethan reluctant path but Ethan accepted instead so Nat is the corrupting force here. The game just blames Ethan for swinging even if it could be Nat's idea or even both of them. I commented about this a long time ago, when the dev is still posting here but it was ignored. I thought he may one day fix this but it seems not.

There is no distinction if it was Ethan or Nat who got into the idea in the first place. Even if Ethan has low cuck points, the game still acts like Ethan is the perpetrator.

He only got 7 cuck points. It was Nat's idea, Ethan only went along with it. This would only make sense if it was the reverse: Ethan proposed the idea to Nat and Nat accepted. But this is clearly not the case here.

It's like... bitch don't gaslight Ethan. It's your damn idea. I understand that all the branching can make the game hard to consistently make but this has existed even on the earliest versions. I'm surprised no one talked about this.

 

[exsomon]

Ethan is cheating nat in one route
even though nat is cheating too
she might seek revenge
does Ethan cheating route go in tandem with nat cheating route?
last entry is black guy fucking her ass i think

 

[Leongen43]

It all depends on your decisions, what the relationship between Ethan and Nat will be like, clearly in the bad routes Ethan is the most harmed, that's why the route I like the most is the one where they both cheat in that way neither of them is limited for the other

 

[r0ckh0und]

puha... i normally like ntr games and curvy women but this... is a drag for me... way too much dialogue. nearly no choices for that amount of text and then most are just muscle and black guys... what if you want ntr and/or cuckold but not with muscle/black guys? no content for that yet... rushed through the game and still took me about 15 min... really damn unfortunate...

You might rushed without looking into details, my friend.
If you want Ntr or cuckold without muscle/black guys you could have find it. For example
For NTR we have to wait for further updates regarding Darrel alternatives.

Actually there is! (only a bj for Darrel on this path is unavoidable)
Follow cuckold path -> cuckold yes job -> Nat reluctant Carl

Spoiler: cuck -> cuck yes job -> nat reluct carl

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[Big Rooster]

It doesn't make sense that Nat acts like Ethan is at fault for swinging/cuckoldry in some paths and the dev needs to fix this because it breaks consistency and this has existed for a long time. Let's say Ethan has good relationship with Nat and has a low cuck points but Nat pursued Darrel in the gym. After Nat and Ethan have sex, Ethan can either accept or deny going in cuck path at Nat's request. If Ethan later gets cold feet, Nat acts like it's Ethan's idea all along, and that she would grant Ethan's request but he would make no mention of "his fetish" anymore. To make this easier to see, it's like going to Ethan reluctant path but Ethan accepted instead so Nat is the corrupting force here. The game just blames Ethan for swinging even if it could be Nat's idea or even both of them. I commented about this a long time ago, when the dev is still posting here but it was ignored. I thought he may one day fix this but it seems not.

There is no distinction if it was Ethan or Nat who got into the idea in the first place. Even if Ethan has low cuck points, the game still acts like Ethan is the perpetrator.

He only got 7 cuck points. It was Nat's idea, Ethan only went along with it. This would only make sense if it was the reverse: Ethan proposed the idea to Nat and Nat accepted. But this is clearly not the case here.

It's like... bitch don't gaslight Ethan. It's your damn idea. I understand that all the branching can make the game hard to consistently make but this has existed even on the earliest versions. I'm surprised no one talked about this.

Some of the different paths don't intersect well, but IMO for the most part it seems that we have to forgive some inconsistencies in the coding of the game, it's like some spelling or grammar mistakes. In some sense, this game doesn't make sense 100% of the time, like real life, and trying to find any logic in a womans thinking....

 

[Brokebacker]

Now say it without crying hahaha

If after almost 2 months there is no solid update, with Nat who is the protagonist being fucked, for me, the game loses its essence, nobody wants to see other people fucking other than Nat or the husband

hot scenes without sex? I don't think about it that way, but unlike you, I do respect the thoughts of others, everyone has their own taste, just because I think differently doesn't mean it's wrong.

Thank God I'm not a patron of this game, I waited practically 2 months for an update
that it is about a kiss, and a vaginal touch, what a bad man jajaja

^Seems to me you are the one crying about it. But I can understand that a hot scene to you must involve sex in some form and that after 2 months this felt like a shitty tease at best with minor story development. I get it, for a 2 month update this was a let down. Striking a balance between story development and "hot-scenes" is important though.
If you neglect the story everything will start to feel meaningless, and if you neglect the "hot-scenes", whatever that means to you, it will start to feel boring and stagnant.

 

[Brokebacker]

Nat could coach Carl on what women want without banging him.

And by coaching him you mean teaching him how to be a cuck.

It's like... bitch don't gaslight Ethan. It's your damn idea. I understand that all the branching can make the game hard to consistently make but this has existed even on the earliest versions. I'm surprised no one talked about this.

In every path I've played it's clearly Ethan's idea to get into cuckolding and he actively pushes Nat and tries to encourage her.
So I don't know what path you are playing, the vanilla one?

 

[Big Rooster]

And by coaching him you mean teaching him how to be a cuck.

thinking maybe he already is

 

[Nurikabe]

In every path I've played it's clearly Ethan's idea to get into cuckolding and he actively pushes Nat and tries to encourage her.
So I don't know what path you are playing, the vanilla one?

There is a route where the text changes and makes Natalie sound like she is encouraging Ethan to be a cuckold.
I thought I had played all the routes but I have never seen the scene where she gets mad at him for having the cuckold fantasy. What route is that?