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When I tried another choice for the bedroom and saw that it changed some scenes, I thought that turning FF on or off might change or hide some of them over time.
Wait & see then
That haircut doesn't help
Well, that's your preference. Btw, the glasses are not gone. She just wasn't wearing them for the last couple of scenes. They'll be back because I think glasses are kind of hot. I'm going to stick with the hair for the time being, but there's no reason she might not get another haircut in the future.
It's just at the beginning so far. I've been working to set up a solid foundation to build this story on and that FF choice was just one of a few paths you set. Each path requires almost double the work though, so it's going to take a while to flesh everything out. Sometimes it just means you see one sentence of dialogue, as opposed to another. That's one of the benefits of working on a project when I am not constrained by the sillyness of Patreon's guidelines. I can freely make the dialogue without just changing names from Father to Landlord, lol. I am still playing with how to construct things though, trying to make the game as dynamic as possible and also trying not to over-complicate things and make future updates break saves, etc.When I tried another choice for the bedroom and saw that it changed some scenes, I thought that turning FF on or off might change or hide some of them over time.
Wait & see then
That haircut doesn't help
For the next chapter, I am planning at least one large lewd scene (with alternate versions) and I am also going to start getting into the club side of things. Maybe introduce a nemesis or something. And then there's the MC's interest in the paranormal and occult to explore. And of course, we need to be introduced to the GILF that shows up at the end.
And give Agnes' hair a chance. It might grow on you. And like I mentioned above, it's always possible she has another haircut down the road.
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I want to respond to someone ( Norman Knight ) who gave me a 1 star review, since F95 hasn't implemented that feature yet in the Reviews...
"... for example the proportions, some areas look WAY too big from the inside, while the characters look way too small, ..."
I'm not sure if you are aware of DAZ at all, but often times, assets made for Daz are improperly sized. Some asset creators just use their own measurements and proportions. I am aware of that and in this VN I have used measure metrics and even a simple measuring stick prop to make sure things stay in the realm of the real. So I am not sure what you are specifically referring to, but I suspect it's a matter of perspective. Or bias created by the hundreds of other VN's out there that are totally out of proportion.
Your comments about the models and story - those are your opinions and I respect them. But the comments about stereotype are just troll bait. How can you say it's a stereotype to just change a hair style? (and to one I had to work to get fitted since it was made for a different genesis type) I wanted that long hair but it was a hugely VRAM intensive asset that was slowing down my DAZ viewport and increasing render times by a significant percentage. So I found another one I liked. And you say stuff like changing to short hair with highlights is racist.. like WTF? An 18 girl will probably change her hair 6 times in a year. Get real.
As for the story, this is just the first chapter. It took literally over 300 hours to make (on top of the 200 or so for the preview) and it's got a long ways to go yet. So, if you came in to a VN with one content update and expected the whole thing to be done, I have to wonder if you actually play any of the other games on here? Because honestly, most of them take years to finish. I'm hoping mine can be done in a year or so.
Finally, let's address the fact that you bash me for an incest game where the MC sleep creeps his family, in a game with the tags [incest] [corruption] [sleep sex] and [groping] clearly posted on the top of this Thread. Do you often ignore tags you dislike, just to go in and review bomb those games? Because that is what it looks like to me. I didn't force you to download and play this VN. And you ignored tags for things you seem to have a problem for, just to make a bad review.
Anyhow, I just wanted to respond. I'm not going to report your review for review bombing, even though you clearly ignored tags just to complain about the kinks those tags represent, so you can keep your 1 star review.
See, I am not making this for you. I'm making this for me, and if some others enjoy it... that's great! If you don't, that's great too.
"... for example the proportions, some areas look WAY too big from the inside, while the characters look way too small, ..."
I'm not sure if you are aware of DAZ at all, but often times, assets made for Daz are improperly sized. Some asset creators just use their own measurements and proportions. I am aware of that and in this VN I have used measure metrics and even a simple measuring stick prop to make sure things stay in the realm of the real. So I am not sure what you are specifically referring to, but I suspect it's a matter of perspective. Or bias created by the hundreds of other VN's out there that are totally out of proportion.
Your comments about the models and story - those are your opinions and I respect them. But the comments about stereotype are just troll bait. How can you say it's a stereotype to just change a hair style? (and to one I had to work to get fitted since it was made for a different genesis type) I wanted that long hair but it was a hugely VRAM intensive asset that was slowing down my DAZ viewport and increasing render times by a significant percentage. So I found another one I liked. And you say stuff like changing to short hair with highlights is racist.. like WTF? An 18 girl will probably change her hair 6 times in a year. Get real.
As for the story, this is just the first chapter. It took literally over 300 hours to make (on top of the 200 or so for the preview) and it's got a long ways to go yet. So, if you came in to a VN with one content update and expected the whole thing to be done, I have to wonder if you actually play any of the other games on here? Because honestly, most of them take years to finish. I'm hoping mine can be done in a year or so.
Finally, let's address the fact that you bash me for an incest game where the MC sleep creeps his family, in a game with the tags [incest] [corruption] [sleep sex] and [groping] clearly posted on the top of this Thread. Do you often ignore tags you dislike, just to go in and review bomb those games? Because that is what it looks like to me. I didn't force you to download and play this VN. And you ignored tags for things you seem to have a problem for, just to make a bad review.
Anyhow, I just wanted to respond. I'm not going to report your review for review bombing, even though you clearly ignored tags just to complain about the kinks those tags represent, so you can keep your 1 star review.
See, I am not making this for you. I'm making this for me, and if some others enjoy it... that's great! If you don't, that's great too.
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Ngl did not like that Agnes cut off her hair. Hoping this isn't another dev with a short hair fetish and everyone will have it. Outside of that I'm curious to see how this all plays out. Outlaw biker stories could be fun if done right. Good luck dev.
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Wait a minute.....it's the dev of Whoremonger! That was a real nice AVN! But I am still mad at you Turning Tricks for not continuing it!!! You had a lot of fun characters, great variety of character models (from petite over thicc to gilf and all in between) and a more light hearted tone. And a full appartment building to house them all. Where will you house all the ladies in this AVN? Or will there be less? Imagine big sad puppy eyes here!
Although I see some slight resemblances here so I am somewhat excitedly looking forward to future release.
P.S.: Too bad about Agnes' hair though. And what was that with the girl in the car wreck? A Whoremonger's Agnes camo apperance? If so, that's kinda cool.
Although I see some slight resemblances here so I am somewhat excitedly looking forward to future release.
P.S.: Too bad about Agnes' hair though.
And what was that with the girl in the car wreck? A Whoremonger's Agnes camo apperance? If so, that's kinda cool.
There was more than one cameo, lol. Also, it's quite possible I will start up Whoremonger again, now that I am on SubscribeStar. If I do take that project up again, it will probably be a totally re-code of it, to get rid of any of that pseudo-sandbox nonsense I was experimenting with. That's actually pretty easy to do, since the renders are already done. It will also give me a second project to work on when I am getting burnt out on this one.Wait a minute.....it's the dev of Whoremonger! That was a real nice AVN! But I am still mad at you Turning Tricks for not continuing it!!! You had a lot of fun characters, great variety of character models (from petite over thicc to gilf and all in between) and a more light hearted tone. And a full appartment building to house them all. Where will you house all the ladies in this AVN? Or will there be less? Imagine big sad puppy eyes here!
Although I see some slight resemblances here so I am somewhat excitedly looking forward to future release.
P.S.: Too bad about Agnes' hair though.
Right now, I'm writing the storyline for chapter 2 of this project. Once I start making renders for it, I'll probably go dig into WM for look-see and to start planning the re-write. I'll update that thread when I have something to report.
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. Downloading issues? Look here.Nice to see an older MC who actually looks like he's had a hard life, but the flashback young version looks almost as old, just not muscular, not his teens. Maybe tone down things a bit and use a skin intended for a younger character that doesnt look weatherbeaten.
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MC is in a motorbike club ... since 20 something years back ... is a mechanic rolling his bike into his chop shop on wheels ... complaining about the heavy bike he is worshipping in his club for more than 20 years ... way to be this whining little bad breath for a biker.
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I respect your opinions, but you seriously sound like someone who has never even remotely been close to any of the situations in this story.
First, I've ridden bikes for over 30 years. My last one clocked in at 910 lbs dry weight, lol. I've wrenched on them for just as long and I make internal observations like the above all the time. Especially when trying to back my bike up when there's a slight incline.(I usually ask whoever is riding bitch to get off and push, haha) The difference between types of bikes is very noticeable.
Second, you for sure have never been in any real MP's. I've been in dozens of different ones and, almost exclusively, they are located in run down, low rent and quiet areas, specifically because they are usually illegal and the clients don't want to be seen. Same goes for inside the MP's. They don't have big waiting rooms with a bunch of horny clients reading magazines, lol. They usually schedule people into slots and move them to the private rooms fast. And they almost all have a different exit than entrance... again - to avoid seeing other clients. The only places I have seen different than this were in Central America, where they had dozens of girls working and there was several locals waiting for "their" particular girl. But those were targeted more for the locals, who are poor as dirt.
My story(s) are not for everyone. But when my company name is "Turning Tricks" and my first project is named "Whoremonger", I have to laugh when people scream about there being prostitutes in it...
Let me be clear - I LOVE woman of the night. I LOVE the seedy underside of society and strip clubs and MP's and escorts. It's a haven from the fucked up, bipolar, violent world we live in, and working girls are some of the most honest people you will ever meet. When you are not just a John, at least. I'm sorry if that upsets that particular cliche of Harem lovers who hang on to the delusion that every woman they meet is somehow a pure-as-the-driven-snow innocent virgin. Even the MILF's, lol!
But I am making these games for myself, first, and I hope some other people enjoy them as well.
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Bruv, you certainly like curvaceous women of beauty in your game ...
Could you maybe suggest some haircuts that would fit our daughter from a cokehead mother, the one we got in this game?
Maybe something with a lighter load on the rendering PC?
Would you say a haircut similar to the ones on these babes would look better on our estranged daughter?
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. I'd need to see the cokehead mother to make a guess.
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And thanks. I mean, you always have to have a curvy milf in the game you make. Her name is Ashley Daniels or Ms D.
I'll see what the reaction from my subscribers are after the next update before I change anything about the daughter. Got too many other things to do first.
BTW, that Nelson hair looks like a dry version of the short wet hair asset I have used in the past. It looks nice. Hair is one of the hardest things to nail down, IMO... 2nd only to lighting. You find a great looking asset and then realize it has zero morphs to adjust or you get a dforce one and it has crappy physics. Honestly, the best ones I find are ones where the hair parts are not baked in to a single lump, and you can actually physically twist and bend the individual sections to adjust for gravity and wind.
I am also working with Gen 9 models and sadly, that locks out all those nice G8F hair assets. You can usually auto-fit short hair G8F hair assets to G9, but the long hair ones really screw up at the shoulders. Conversion scripts are also twitchy. Still, every week, more and more G9 assets are released and some of them are very nice.
BTW, that Nelson hair looks like a dry version of the short wet hair asset I have used in the past. It looks nice. Hair is one of the hardest things to nail down, IMO... 2nd only to lighting. You find a great looking asset and then realize it has zero morphs to adjust or you get a dforce one and it has crappy physics. Honestly, the best ones I find are ones where the hair parts are not baked in to a single lump, and you can actually physically twist and bend the individual sections to adjust for gravity and wind.
I am also working with Gen 9 models and sadly, that locks out all those nice G8F hair assets. You can usually auto-fit short hair G8F hair assets to G9, but the long hair ones really screw up at the shoulders. Conversion scripts are also twitchy. Still, every week, more and more G9 assets are released and some of them are very nice.
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