Yes cuz Ryan's sex scenes with Sidney were all long walks on the beach and rose petals.
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Ren'Py A Family Venture [v0.09 V1 Beta] [WillTylor]
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Yeah, forgot too add another stereotype. "Mom should be the one harder to get", where as NTR guys fuck her like shit. Because Mom supposed to have "standards" with Son, where as BBC won't need any need of that, and jackie will easily cum from him.
I get what you're saying, and it's not without cause. But here's what makes sense to me as the story writer. All the girls have an inner nympho that the MC is working on releasing. If he's not careful opening Pandora's box, that need to be fucked will send them to other men for dirty, emotionally unattached sex. Why? Well, because it's natural for a nympho to go looking for dick anywhere they can get it. What's not natural, even for a nympho, is I*****. That's why the type of sex can't be the same. (At least not yet) The MC has to create emotional attachments, material dependencies. The NTR route has the MC as just another dick to fuck, but the loyalty route creates a sense that the MC is not just a dick they can use to satisfy their urges, but the only dick that can satisfy their urges. Once the sexual ice is broken, and their infatuation with the MC complete, then the sex can evolve into areas that are much more hardcore.
I'm definitely not above using stereotypes in my game, especially well developed stereotypes that I enjoy.
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Yeah, It's already a unrealistic game. But suppress our non-vanilla type of non-ntr fans wishes under the name of "realism", naturalism" bullshit. While NTR fans will get what they are hoping for, a nympho whorish sex. Same type of answers from every Optional NTR dev I have seen so far. And I'm sure MC still going to be boring Vanilla Man even after the sexual ice broken. And game comes to end. MC never going to have "slutty, whorish, nympho content" with Mom, that NTR villains are gonna get with jackie's in NTR path real soon.
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NTR is "his passion"?If only non-ntr events weren't so halfassed and lame compared to ntr events in this game... I checked this one out because mom was hot and sadly things went as usual with vanilla/ntr games. Mom x son blowjob scene was over in 3 sentences. Short, lame and unsatisfying. While mom x black guy blowjob scene had like 10 times more dialogue, more sexy teasing and the whole "I came just from sucking dick" thingy.
I would never ask the dev to remove ntr stuff since it's obviously his passion but will it kill him to at least try and attempt to make non-ntr scenes satisfying?
Have you actually played this game? Because not only is NTR in this game minimal, it's also entirely avoidable. If NTR was Will's "passion", the game would be full of it and it would be the central focus, but it isn't.I honestly don't know how you could have come to that conclusion.
I think that's a fair answer. As his "landlady", you'd naturally expect that a sexual relationship with him is going to take some time for her to be comfortable with given the nature of their relationship, but with his actions leading to her becoming more and more sexually frustated and without getting her to focus those frustrations on himself, she's going to look for satisfaction elsewhere and be somewhat more willing because there isn't that same taboo as there would be with her "tenant".
Who's to say she won't be a "slutty, whorish, nympho" when she finally goes the distance with the MC? What Will was saying, and they're quite right, is that she does this with others because the MC is building up her sexual desires but also letting them run wild rather than keeping her focus on him and thus making her desire only him. Therefore, in making her desire only him, and once they finally cross that threshold, that same cock-hungry desire she has with others will be focused solely on the MC because he has made himself the only man she desires. So that side of her will come out when she's with him and could then even start to be directed towards the other "tenants" living with her since that barrier will have been broken.
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In these games, NTR routes are just focused on sex and they don't really have any feelings involved, that is why things progress so much faster with the "villains" than with the mcs in the love routes. Actually building a relationship with someone is way harder than just having casual sex.
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Okay, I may be wrong. But, just have a doubt, when Mom finally becomes Level 1 nympho for son, at that time, according to your "realism" calculations, Jackie would have become level 10 nymph in NTR path right? So, Will MC can compete and achieve to the level of NTR within short time after sexual Ice is broken? Or MC going to continue his vanilla style to keep "holding hands" fans as happy? Because, As I know, Non-NTR fans are divided into two types. Love and Lust.NTR is "his passion"?
I honestly don't know how you could have come to that conclusion.
I think that's a fair answer. As his "landlady", you'd naturally expect that a sexual relationship with him is going to take some time for her to be comfortable with given the nature of their relationship, but with his actions leading to her becoming more and more sexually frustated and without getting her to focus those frustrations on himself, she's going to look for satisfaction elsewhere and be somewhat more willing because there isn't that same taboo as there would be with her "tenant".
Who's to say she won't be a "slutty, whorish, nympho" when she finally goes the distance with the MC? What Will was saying, and they're quite right, is that she does this with others because the MC is building up her sexual desires but also letting them run wild rather than keeping her focus on him and thus making her desire only him. Therefore, in making her desire only him, and once they finally cross that threshold, that same cock-hungry desire she has with others will be focused solely on the MC because he has made himself the only man she desires. So that side of her will come out when she's with him and could then even start to be directed towards the other "tenants" living with her since that barrier will have been broken.
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I think once the ice is broken, the girls will be as kinky as in the ntr route. If you played the game and did the christmas event, you get a glimpse of the future and the girls are pretty open and forward with the mc. The ntr route is like when you play online games with cheaters, they don't care about the consequences so they do whatever they want. In this case in the ntr route the dudes just want to fuck the girls and they don't have to worry about anything else, so they can do things that aren't viable options for the mc.
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What if players are not into "love" and not to worry about anything else and just to dominate them and keep them as personal sluts like NTR villains did? You see, That's where the problem occurs. You think all Non-NTR fans are comes under only one category and want to be a good hero? Nah man.
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I never said he is not. I'm just saying we are different although we belong to same Non-NTR zone.
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I don't like ntr either, I only play the loyalty route in this game. But we have to consider the story and the characters' relationships, It is way harder for someone to corrupt their "landlady" into having a sexual relationship than it is for someone from the outside. In a race to see who can corrupt them faster the mc would probably lose because the people in the house would have some reservations about getting in a sexual relationship with him that they wouldn't have with someone from the outside (I am trying really hard to not use the in**** word.)
Sounds like somebody hurt you in the past, I get it. I too have been the victim of certain developers ending their games before they reached the kind of material I was hoping for. So, I understand that it's hard to be able to hope and trust again. I also more than understand that game development is so frustratingly slow, and having patience for a game to evolve takes a lot of mental fortitude. I promise, I'm giving this game every free moment I can spare, and unfortunately, as a family man with a full time job, it's not as much time as I'd like.
I see this game as an I***** game primarily, and the the NTR content is only secondary. As such, the relationship between the MC and the girls in the game are the main focus, but this also means that I'm not just going to throw the girls on the MC's dick. Their storyline has to develop. I realize it's a game, and not very realistic, but I'm trying to create some kind of realism in the fantasy world the characters occupy.
I'll admit that I do enjoy some NTR content, but it's not my focus. It's a way of getting a more hardcore element into the game while the more rewarding, but slower content builds. It makes it so there are multiple paths through the game; only loyalty, only NTR, or the way I like it, riding both sides as carefully as I can.
Since the MC's corruption of the girls to make them his very own is the main focus, I also have the most content saved up for this storyline, and since my pornography addiction is much more developed than a middle school boys, I do enjoy me some hardcore porn content, and have every intention of putting a fair share into the loyalty route.
While I can't promise that I won't hurt you like other developers have, I've every intention of seeing this game through until the end of the story, but I also don't have plans to draw it out and milk it for everything I can. I've got other game ideas I'm excited to begin developing, though I'll hold off on that until this game is finished, or unless AFV can start to be successful enough that I can focus most of my time on game development.
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First of all, Thanks for writing a clear long reply to a random player like me. That's very rare from devs now a days. Yeah, My frustration isn't primarily focused at you. You are right, that came from my past experiences. Although I'm not still at the level of trusting another optional Dev, I can atleast wish that you may prove me wrong in future.
Yeah, no worries! Concerns like yours give me an opportunity to explain my intentions and vision for the game, and help others decide if they want to play it or not. Past experience always plays a role in the way we approach the next thing.
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really love the awesome game, great work! and it is so great to see a Dev so actively sharing his thoughts to the fans of his game. One thing I personally love in an I**** game is when the MC slowly shows his powers over the girls, and the other girls see it, too. so for example make one girl not wearing (or just wearing) panties in the house and the others comment how sluttly this is over dinner table. or the element of public spanking
Dear WillTylor : are you planning similar?
There was one game/mod where the corruption was ultimately so high MC would cum on his "LL" face and made her wear it over a meal. So kinky..
Dear WillTylor : are you planning similar?
There was one game/mod where the corruption was ultimately so high MC would cum on his "LL" face and made her wear it over a meal. So kinky..
That's a fun idea... I love the corruption process in certain games. I'm hoping I can recreate that same kind of feeling that other devs have portrayed so well.really love the awesome game, great work! and it is so great to see a Dev so actively sharing his thoughts to the fans of his game. One thing I personally love in an I**** game is when the MC slowly shows his powers over the girls, and the other girls see it, too. so for example make one girl not wearing (or just wearing) panties in the house and the others comment how sluttly this is over dinner table. or the element of public spanking
Dear WillTylor : are you planning similar?
There was one game/mod where the corruption was ultimately so high MC would cum on his "LL" face and made her wear it over a meal. So kinky..
Since you mentioned riding both sides regarding two routes, would players have an option to be somewhat on both paths? What i mean by that is if MC chose as of now, Jacky will be corrupted by strip club boss and MC can have his turn too at home if he chose to pay mob so she will not go to strip club on saturday (bathroom hj). But his friend got bj from her on the costume shoot (NTR route), while for now MC can't. So will mc get sexual with Jacky further with more scenes if players are on NTR route, making that sharing path if players choose? That was somewhat initial deal between MC and his friend. I would much rather have that route be corruption than pure NTR one, but decision is of course yours on how you gonna develop those two paths.
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really love the awesome game, great work! and it is so great to see a Dev so actively sharing his thoughts to the fans of his game. One thing I personally love in an I**** game is when the MC slowly shows his powers over the girls, and the other girls see it, too. so for example make one girl not wearing (or just wearing) panties in the house and the others comment how sluttly this is over dinner table. or the element of public spanking
Dear WillTylor : are you planning similar?
There was one game/mod where the corruption was ultimately so high MC would cum on his "LL" face and made her wear it over a meal. So kinky..
As long as it's optional. I find myself on the complete opposite side and prefer to see relationships born out of trust and genuine affection built up by positive actions. I don't mind the odd bit of subterfuge and mild manipulation of events to get the relationships to that point, but outright corruption and humiliation of LIs is just not my bag, baby.