A few observations and suggestions.

OhJo

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The 50s it is not, and I'm still curious what gave you that impression?
The general tone of the thread, more so than any single post or sentence. :) Having had to read a ton of American diaries from the 1950's as part of project as research assistant, that has more or less painted my perception of fundamentalist views regarding family, the 'expected' roles of various genders, and some utterly bizarre notion of 'purity' that only goes one way.

I'll readily admit I rushed to judgement after seeing things like "women should be appreciative [of all their man does for them]", that kind of statement irks me, just about as much as hearing modern-day feminists raging about the patriarchy like they're the very spirit of Valerie Solanas reborn.

I can tell you there is a slippery slope our western society is sitting on. The number of males to a household.
Ever notice tribes that all live together in a communal house or families were several generations are living under the same roof. In most cases even younger males in those families are pot belly or have some fat. Multiple males in the dynamic a family dynamic creates health issues for the males. Men are usually aggressive to some nature against other men. It built into them genetically. When they are forced to change to deal with the dynamic they deal with stress that stress actually causes changes bringing on stuff like stomach fat even if they are still exercising. Which also they get other health risks, higher cholesterol, heart disease, kidney stones... strokes all of which increase in potential. Also impotency.

mother natures a bitch. If one male doesn't eliminate the other from competing mother nature can and will.

Imagine what that would do to society if that dynamic is repeat across society in mass.
You raise a fine point, but that doesn't apply to us, as such. We have been looking for suitable housing for the mother and her child, we have no plans to be a multi-generational community, there's just no real rush, and the housing market is still fucked. Our 'niece' just had her first birthday, she's doing amazing on all fronts.
As for competing men.. haha, it's rare that we let any man stay longer than a few weeks. They do tend to lean on the group far too much, and contribute fuck all - on occasion, literally, but that's the idea. :whistle: The two men that are part of our core group are gay, and don't really compete with anyone over anything, except each other from time to time.



Besides, humanity could do with a serious cutback across the board, I wouldn't be too distraught over a new wave of Plagues, and I don't really value our continued survival as a species. That's a rather different conversation though, maybe some other time.


My guess is they glossed over the comment I am 50 years old and can't do the math to work out I was born in 1969.
No, like I said in my first comment, this thread at first reminded me of a comedic skit, in the vein of Waldorf and Statler. :p
 

Joshua Tree

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Fox News on Sweden, pretty much every week. :p Oh wait, you asked for facts, never mind.

(Scandinavia = Sweden.. welcome back Stormaktstiden!)
Well, last time I checked, Scandinavia includes a bit more than Sweden, and I'm not Swedish. Americans used to (maybe still do) think we got polar bears roaming in our streets... as a hint :p

That being said, I would still feel much safer visit friends in Sweden than in the US tbh.

Fox news... Yeah well, with such great people as Jeanine Pirro I think I'll pass, lol. Although sometimes Wallace and Shepard got their moments sometimes when sticking facts to the... orange thing...
 
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Joshua Tree

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Multi generational was just used as a single example two or more adult males in a house hold is all that is needed to create the issue. I used the multi generational family as an example because those are currently the most prevalent form of house holds with which show multiple adult males out side of homosexual relationships. You don't see a lot of polygamy families with multiple males. Most are multi female.
What should really tickle your fancy then is the thought of situation in likes of India and China where there is way more males than females.

Traditional house hold constellations is a thing of the past really. Or rather, people are more open these days.
 
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In the US these crime rates are declining vs your Sweden they are on the rise.
A person can defend themselves against rape with whatever force is required. Sweden rather make you a victim than let you defend yourself.
If your issue is gun crimes the vast majority of those occur in a grouped populace of criminal on criminal crime. As long as you stay out of that life style you and your family aren't likely to be victims.

As for accidental shootings. That because you have idiots who treat a gun like a power or status symbol to show off vs a family like mine which we teach our children guns are a tool to be respected and not played with or used for bullshit reasons.
Families like mine have had guns around kids for 200 years without any incident. It has to do with how you raise them.

Again, I'm not living in Sweden, I'm NOT Swedish. But to help my cousins to the east, I can find some numbers and such too..

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Here Sweden is ranked 17 vs US 49....

No one restrain/keep you from defending yourself vs rape, or other means of crimes. If it's sensible to do so, if someone hold a knife to your throat or whatever is another tale. But that doesn't apply just to Sweden, but anywhere else as well.
 
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I'll readily admit I rushed to judgement after seeing things like "women should be appreciative [of all their man does for them]", that kind of statement irks me, just about as much as hearing modern-day feminists raging about the patriarchy like they're the very spirit of Valerie Solanas reborn.
You're forgiven. We all take our work home with us occasionally. Don't extract too much from a lesson; A cat who steps on a hot stove won't do it again, but she won't step on a cold one either. There is much to be learned from history, lest it repeat itself, but the past is the past.
 

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I think often our backgrounds, professions and basic orientation(sexual,personality, otherwise) influence our perspective and analysis of stuff like this. I am introverted, cis male, hetero and evenly balanced between right and left brain thinking(creative/analytical). I also have a creative writing degree and a law degree, though I started out in undergrad as a physics major and I later studied multimedia in between undergrad and law school. In addition, I started out playing wargames around 11 or 12 years old, then got into tabletop RPGs and ultimately have been an avid e-gamer(console and PC) for the past 30 years or so. I am middle-aged and American and have lived in a "broken home"(divorce) that became more cohesive as I got older. I have an incest fetish and a mind control fetish, and these informed my fantasies from fairly early on. I think I got the mind control fetish because I was very shy and couldn't conceive of women being attracted to me voluntarily. I have fortunately since discovered this not to be the case!
So, when I look at this very unique and particular game genre--whether you call them "porn games", "h games", "eroge", "adult games" or "fap games"(the latter is my favorite)--I do tend to look first at narrative elements, both because of my writing background and because the narrative sets up the scenario and done well makes it "hot". Second, I look at the gameplay elements--how do you "play" the game, how do you "win", progress, etc. Third, I look at the media elements--the art, music, any voice acting or sound effects, and so forth.
What is the objective of a fap game? To titillate, arouse and entertain, presumably. Secondarily, often, to tell a story that accomplishes all of the above. Hot, interesting, fun. So what makes a story hot, interesting and fun?
It's a given that there will be sexual content in a fap game. Often a lot of fetishes will be featured in a fap game, to make it "hot" for as many players as possible. The art, animation and even sound elements will play a big role in the sex appeal of the game. But what storytelling elements make a game hot, interesting and fun? Some thoughts:
1. The story should be inherently interesting--if it's a suburban household family, what is happening that is interesting, besides the sex? Was there a recent major change in the household? Is there something unusual about someone in the household? Etc.
2. The story should contain some original elements--if you are producing the 500th game set in the aforementioned suburban household, what's different about this one? What's unique about this family or this protagonist?
3. The story should be cohesive with the game play--if there are choices the player makes, the story should reflect the impact of those choices in some way, even if only minor.
4. Humor should add to the story, not distract from it.
5. If the main character is an amoral dirtbag, some explanation for why would be helpful.
6. The actual "visible writing"(narrative and dialogue visible on screen) should be as well written as possible, and with the intent to evoke an emotional response from the player as appropriate(e.g., when dialogue happens during sex, it should seem "hot" to the player).
7. Character decisions in-game should seem at least remotely plausible. If the player doesn't believe a character would agree to something so radically different from her normal course of action/comfort zone, it can take them out of the game.
8. Spend more than a minute establishing the characterization of major game characters. Give a real sense of their personality.
9. Follow through to the end--don't half ass the game ending. A game with a "big bang"(lol) at the end is more memorable than one that just kinda fades out after the last conquest is complete.
10. Make the main character more than a blank slate--give them a backstory, personality and some motivational "seeds" to be explored in game.

That's it for now.
 
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