Misarmor

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Wait where are the 40 scenes? I kinda reached the end of quests. I only found one single time dream sequence with the sisters and the 10pm mom dream scene. Are there more content?
It's a mix of main story scenes and "scheduled" scenes.
 

Alucard421

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It's a mix of main story scenes and "scheduled" scenes.
I assume there aren't any actual action between characters yet. Just masturbation, teasing, voyeur, dream, those sort of events? If only that dream sequence of mother would have been real. Wonder by which update will we get actual action between characters? And what reputation is required to open level 2 and level 3 jobs?

And as usual another Futa game where the Futa MC seems meek and submissive. Don't know why Devs prefer Futa MCs to be meek and submissive? I like me some Futa MC because they are so rare but damn almost 80% of them are completely meek and submissive.
 

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So since you're apparently so proud of this comment that you even made it a review, allow me to answer properly:

What grind exactly? To write this comment I opened the game, skipped the intro went straight to the PC and worked. It took me (hold on to your tits...) 1 singular minute to get to $1000 bucks (granted, as a Cookie Clicker player I have mastered secret double-click techniques). Or is it the grocery shopping? There's no weight system to the errand shop anymore, and you can literally buy 40 pasta and 40 tomato paste to be done with it for an entire month. Which is more than double the time you need to finish the game.
So the point of the minigame is to spend several 'days' in the game just working (clicking and clicking) in order to get enough money and then buy two ingredients of the several ones there are in the game... And you think that's something interesting to do for the player? That the player is going to enjoy that game mechanics? You yourself are saying that those game mechanics are boring, since the technique is to grind at the beginning and put it out of the way as soon as possible. Why don't you remove them, and that's all? I tell you, what has happened to me is I have got a 'game over' because I didn't payed the tax or some shit, and I though 'fuck this, I don't want to start this shit again; the scenes aren't so good anyway' and have removed this game from my HD. I don't find this game interesting enough to play it even for free.
 
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As I have already said, too much effort for few awards, nude scenes, dreams of sex that the MC has, now the Futanari have multiplied, I thought that only the protagonist would be the only one seen in the distance, possible NTR, share or exchange with them, it's not my thing I like it, I have more doubts about whether to continue this game. I'll just wait for an update and see what changes they have and see if I give it one more chance to play and grind.
 

Alucard421

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Question. Auto-triggering scenes, what are they dependent on? Like location, time or even day?
Would be good to know how many combos I have to try to get scenes to trigger.
Yeah I am also fucking confused. FOllowing Eve's schedule for some time but no events have arrived.
 

Misarmor

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So the point of the minigame is to spend several 'days' in the game just working (clicking and clicking) in order to get enough money and then buy two ingredients of the several ones there are in the game... And you think that's something interesting to do for the player? That the player is going to enjoy that game mechanics? You yourself are saying that those game mechanics are boring, since the technique is to grind at the beginning and put it out of the way as soon as possible. Why don't you remove them, and that's all? I tell you, what has happened to me is I have got a 'game over' because I didn't payed the tax or some shit, and I though 'fuck this, I don't want to start this shit again; the scenes aren't so good anyway' and have removed this game from my HD. I don't find this game interesting enough to play it even for free.
It's not their "point". The job minigame is there because it makes sense in the story: at that point in time at the very beginning of the game, Alice's only option to make money is to make boring PNGs for random people. I thought it would be okay to make the player work a little (again, a full minute) if it means unlocking the fun stuff soon after and making money with that... And this is not counting the fact that a lot of stuff is not implemented yet, like Angelina finding a teacher job after a bit.
Same goes for the grocery shopping, as of 0.4 you can cum in the meals you prepare if that's your thing, and if it's not, my point was that you can just skip it in literally a minute and not worry about it at all.
 

Alucard421

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I hope with atleast next one or two updates we get even some blowjob action from any character atleast the mom character. So much grind and I would be ok with it if atleat by now one blowjob scene with Mom or Riley would have been there. We aren't interacting much with Emily even.
 

Misarmor

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I hope with atleast next one or two updates we get even some blowjob action from any character atleast the mom character. So much grind and I would be ok with it if atleat by now one blowjob scene with Mom or Riley would have been there. We aren't interacting much with Emily even.
Emily was supposed to get a bit more screentime on 0.4 but it was cut because of time constraints.
Alice will get a blowjob if it makes sense in the story. Fromr Mom, it's definitely not a possibility for 0.5. From Riley... It depends.
 
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Blackhearts

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Wanna try so bad but the android version is old? Will this be updated?

Joiplay app gives error when trying to play. (Deleted right after because it happens too many times)
 

Alucard421

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Emily was supposed to get a bit more screentime on 0.4 but it was cut because of time constraints.
Alice will get a blowjob if it makes sense in the story. For Mom it's definitely not a possibility for 0.5. For Riley... It depends.
Wait whos Alice?
Is it the MC? will it be a self blowjob?
 

twiz4

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This game definitely suffers from too much attention to the individual pieces, rather than the game as a whole. It's like a dinner with a bunch of good sides that don't go together at all.

OmegaLord has a good response earlier in the thread, but I'd like to add my own opinion as well:

-I really do not like the layout of the house. Everything feels odd and counterintuitive to me. Maybe an overhead map to reference would help to navigate.

-There's a lot of empty space in the sandbox layout. There's maybe one interactive component worthwhile in each hour, but some have none. You have to skip time a good amount, and that's just a click on a number on the top menu. You could use the time for work, but again, the time restraints are an issue when you'd rather be trying to interact with people/events. Right now as a player, I want to keep checking areas for content, but I keep going to a useless basement, an attic with clickables that do nothing after a short while, or interacting with bedrooms that offer nothing.

-The money system basically requires you to waste a day or two in a row to accomplish the task without missing the deadline. You *could* take a break and come back, but that's too much worry to put up with. Especially with other worries, such as...

-Food resources. Annoying. A better explanation of getting involved with cooking, and what food is worth buying based on your recipes, would go a long way. But this system coupled with the frequent work needed to earn money leaves you too focused on work and food to do much else. (EDIT: I saw in another response that there's more to be added here for purchasing food based on recipes, which would be big.)

-Being forced to go to Eve to buy things in a 1-hour window is brutal, especially with the website available to see the upgrade products, but not purchase them. Either Eve needs to be more available to buy things, or there needs to be a one-time cut-scene where she gives her blessing for you to do as you please, then buy from the website.

-Adding the remote tax is just a kick in the gut.

-I like the idea of managing the Heat/AC, but the Auto feature doesn't seem to work, and there's not a good indicator of what's too hot. I'll see the sisters on the couch upset about the heat, but the temp won't be in red like it would be in blue if it's too cold. Also, placing the Heat/AC on/off switches on the top-of-screen menu would help a lot.

-The mom photos I really don't understand since it doesn't seem like we can do anything there, but I'm guessing that's coming later.

-Quests like Juggernaughty1 (I think I got that right...) are frustrating when you have to get through several days to complete it. Allowing players to review by the next hour I think would help the progress there, so that you could ideally complete the photos in one day, rather than skipping through days just to finish one quest. Maybe this gets better when more content is added so there's more to do in the day, but right now it's a nuisance.



Now, all that said, I want to add some positives:

-The game is pretty unique in premise an mechanics. You really do get to be a house manager, trying to take care of the home and your family, when you're forced to move out to the middle of Nowhere.

-Each girl has her own style and personality without being one note, plus there's some solid humor, and you can see a smidgen of character development with Riley and Eve. Stanley is also great, classic old man gooner with a heart.

-The menu offering schedules is *really* nice, instead of trying to figure out and remember that stuff on your own.

-The little interactives, like Emily watching cars go by, that don't take up time are appreciated. They add good flavor and character to the family.

-The story itself, what we have of it, is interesting and I do look forward to seeing it through.


In my own fapper opinion, I think we need to see more complete content up front, rather than adding more unfinished content. More finished quests and sexual content earlier on to keep players interested, and feel like the game is flowing properly. Again, there's lots of good in here, particularly with the individual characters, but it's not going together well, and bringing some of the pieces together to show a developing product rather than adding more pieces to the puzzle would go a long way.

Remember that we don't make posts like this unless we see something that we know can be good, so keep at it, Misarmor! You have the makings of a quality game here.
 

Griev

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It makes perfect sense. So I will pre-school it for you.

-Devs are concerned with keeping people playing their games longer, not shorter. The focus is not about having fun anymore, that much has become very apparent in more recent years. Those grindy things keep people in the game, playtime is longer. If you knew anything about the gaming industry you would know this. Ubisoft for instance, they have staff that go through games trying to figure ways out to keep people in the game playing. Many companies have these kind of staff. Genshin Impact for example does. And, what are most of those things they add to the game? GRIND. Flat out. Don't tell me you fail to understand that grind keeps people in the game?
They don't care if you WANT to stay in the game, they care that the game forces you to stay in the game with grindy mechanics. You said it is boring, they don't care. They want you playing longer, that's what they care about. Not having fun. Playing longer. "Look our game takes 100 hrs to complete" even though half of that is grind. Understand now? Don't tell me you are that dense. So yes, in the end they do focus on making games more boring, whether you like it or believe it or not, because they literally have staff that focus on adding boring things (grind) to the game to keep you playing longer. Period.

End of line.
All of what you typed only applies to live service games. VNs aren't live service games. You don't need to possess knowledge of the gaming industry to understand the difference of priorities in Live service player retention and and single purchase buy to play games. For example, after you give From Soft $60 for Armored Core, why the fuck would they care if you played the game for 7000 OR 7 hours? Why would DrPinkCake care if you played BeingADik for 1000 hours or 1 hour, once he's already been paid from the steam purchase? There's no actual benefit to the dev of a Vn to create "boring" content as the point isn't to keep players in the game, it's to draw new players into the game. So adding grindy mechanics does the opposite of both what the VN dev would potentially want/need, and the player wants. It's a lose lose for both sides when a VN devs add grindy mechanics, and deters potential supporters into waiting for the free pirated version instead.
 
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