Ren'Py A Home in the Desert [v0.4.5] [Misarmor]

[F4irfield]

Seriously? I was *this* close to supporting this since I liked the previous scenes (could do with less dream sequences though).

Porn game gets updated with no porn? Nope. Dealt with enough of that shit with Subverse releasing updates for the past year without any lewd content.

Bullet dodged.

nahh man, why are so many npc's here
it ltrly says on his

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"This update's highlights are:
- A large amount of new events, especially compared to the previous updates. There is twice as much dialogue in this update as there was in 0.2, which was the initial public release, and the was the biggest release in terms of scenes before that one.
- The introduction of Riley's career as a JustAFan model. This is the first baby step towards making money out of sex work, and it's quite symbolic as it's meant to be a major theme in the game."

and much more...

 

[Mark Suckerbird]

a game like that in VR would be nice

 

[rafahli]

Seriously? I was *this* close to supporting this since I liked the previous scenes (could do with less dream sequences though).

Porn game gets updated with no porn? Nope. Dealt with enough of that shit with Subverse releasing updates for the past year without any lewd content.

Bullet dodged.

yes, there is barely no content until now

 

[Misarmor]

Yes, there is a lot of set-up during this update because... There was a lot of set-up to be done.

- How can I show Riley selling her ass on JustAFan (Onlyfans parody in the game) if I don't tell the story of how she opens one?
- How can I show the family members being horny in their regular life if they don't even appear arround the house? For those who don't remember, the house felt like a haunted house because it was empty most of the time... That's twenty-four (24) events that were added this update (with variations for a lot of them!) JUST to make the house feel more lively...
- How can I show Emily streaming herself (with everything that could imply) if I don't renovate her bedroom into a "streamer bedroom?" This will be implemented by full release, but all the bedrooms were redone, tested for lighting, re-rendered and the locations display code was expanded to allow such upgrades.

And yet...

no new h-scenes

That's not even true. There's a new masturbation scene for Eve, a masturbation scene for Riley, a very kinky masturbation scene with Alice will be added by full release, and the generaly-disliked minigame was replaced with a scene that's quite horny too. So sure, that's not a lot of H-scenes, but go back to point 1 too see why I had other priorities.

Now for those of you who know where PornHub is for a quick fap and don't mind waiting a little for some built-up porn, the porn is coming...

Now one last thing before I go that I could use some explanation for...

(could do with less dream sequences though).

You don't like dream sequences why exactly? I can't be because they are not canon or built-up (like most people it seems, I know that's how it works for me) because when the dev builds up it's a "bullet to dodge"... Please make it make sense.
And I haven't played Subverse, so I don't know what you mean by that.

 

[Limina_Leaker]

Yes, there is a lot of set-up during this update because... There was a lot of set-up to be done.

- How can I show Riley selling her ass on JustAFan (Onlyfans parody in the game) if I don't tell the story of how she opens one?
- How can I show the family members being horny in their regular life if they don't even appear arround the house? For those who don't remember, the house felt like a haunted house because it was empty most of the time... That's twenty-four (24) events that were added this update (with variations for a lot of them!) JUST to make the house feel more lively...
- How can I show Emily streaming herself (with everything that could imply) if I don't renovate her bedroom into a "streamer bedroom?" This will be implemented by full release, but all the bedrooms were redone, tested for lighting, re-rendered and the locations display code was expanded to allow such upgrades.

And yet...



That's not even true. There's a new masturbation scene for Eve, a masturbation scene for Riley, a very kinky masturbation scene with Alice will be added by full release, and the generaly-disliked minigame was replaced with a scene that's quite horny too. So sure, that's not a lot of H-scenes, but go back to point 1 too see why I had other priorities.

Now for those of you who know where PornHub is for a quick fap and don't mind waiting a little for some built-up porn, the porn is coming...

Now one last thing before I go that I could use some explanation for...



You don't like dream sequences why exactly? I can't be because they are not canon or built-up (like most people it seems, I know that's how it works for me) because when the dev builds up it's a "bullet to dodge"... Please make it make sense.
And I haven't played Subverse, so I don't know what you mean by that.

The reason I don't like dream sequences is because they are just that; a dream. They didn't happen. They're imaginary. It's like having an erotic dream IRL. Yeah, it was extremely satisfying, until you wake up and realize it never happened.

I get this is a game, and none of this is really happening, dream or not, but if I could watch a scene where a character bangs their sister and the options were: a dream sequence or the "real thing", I would 100% prefer the real thing.

Erotic stories and/or games feed directly off the emotion a scene and the accompanying dialogue provide. Knowing that something as actually happening in the game world vs in the character's head changes how much of an impact that scene will provide. At least imo it does.

In regards to subverse, that is just a reference to another erotic game that has been adding updates for the past year+ with no actual erotic/lewd content.

The bullet dodged remark is referencing that I bought the game and expected to receive at least some of that content per release. I don't think it is too much to ask to expect that from a lewd/porn game especially when updates are 4-5+ months apart. No one wants another "Red Room" which you can find on this forum. The game held much promise, but after 6+ years of dev time, only has a couple of handjob scenes.

 

[Misarmor]

The reason I don't like dream sequences is because they are just that; a dream. They didn't happen. They're imaginary. It's like having an erotic dream IRL. Yeah, it was extremely satisfying, until you wake up and realize it never happened.

I get this is a game, and none of this is really happening, dream or not, but if I could watch a scene where a character bangs their sister and the options were: a dream sequence or the "real thing", I would 100% prefer the real thing.

Erotic stories and/or games feed directly off the emotion a scene and the accompanying dialogue provide. Knowing that something as actually happening in the game world vs in the character's head changes how much of an impact that scene will provide. At least imo it does.

In regards to subverse, that is just a reference to another erotic game that has been adding updates for the past year+ with no actual erotic/lewd content.

The bullet dodged remark is referencing that I bought the game and expected to receive at least some of that content per release. I don't think it is too much to ask to expect that from a lewd/porn game especially when updates are 4-5+ months apart. No one wants another "Red Room" which you can find on this forum. The game held much promise, but after 6+ years of dev time, only has a couple of handjob scenes.

Okay, but we're wrapping back to the main issue at hand.
Video games have this unique possibility of showing things that a 10 minute video or a 25 page doujin can't. When I came into the world of porn games, corruption and games with extensive buildup in general were the norm. Think of Dating My Daughter that took like 20 updates to have sex content (I mean dick in pussy) or Innocent Witches that did incredibly well (before they decided to rewrite the entire story).
I can't possibly show the sisters or mom or aunt having sex because I want to enjoy the full potential of the medium I chose (a video game) can offer. I want to show them slowly push their boudaries and break taboo one touch at a time.
To me, just showing incest sex is like showing a cooking video. You get the look, but you don't get the smell or taste of the dish, just like in your quick, not built-up sex scene you don't get a proper feel of the taboo and the sense that you're looking at something forbidden. Those things need to be laid out, there needs to be doubt shown in the characters minds, and lust, and many things so its proper potential can reveal itself to the player.
To me, maybe because I played those older games, those things are a given. You're playing a video game because you want to see buildup. I'll never understand people complaining about not getting immediate sex when PornHub is just a click away.

Now if you're talking about how long my updates take to make, I acknowledged that on my release post. I know my updates are long, and I keep trying my best to shorten my dev cycles. The comparison to The Red Room doesn't hold up either. I always keep my followers up-to-date every 10 days (I have without fail for more than a year now), which is not even the main issue with ALISHIA, which is that she tends to disappear (because of real-life events), not being able to work for months on end which is not my case. The size of my updates match how long they take to make.

So yeah, for now, it's obviously impossible for me to show a (non-dream) sex scene (again, meaning dick in pussy) because there's no proper story that explains how the characters got there. I'm sure with everything I set up during 0.4 I'll have occasions to show some sexual activity though, and the next update will have more and more references to horniness, but I'll hold that thought to myself until 0.4 enters full release. But please stop asking for sex (again, excluding simple teasing) scenes when it doesn't make sense for it to happen now...

 

[rafahli]

Yes, there is a lot of set-up during this update because... There was a lot of set-up to be done.

- How can I show Riley selling her ass on JustAFan (Onlyfans parody in the game) if I don't tell the story of how she opens one?
- How can I show the family members being horny in their regular life if they don't even appear arround the house? For those who don't remember, the house felt like a haunted house because it was empty most of the time... That's twenty-four (24) events that were added this update (with variations for a lot of them!) JUST to make the house feel more lively...
- How can I show Emily streaming herself (with everything that could imply) if I don't renovate her bedroom into a "streamer bedroom?" This will be implemented by full release, but all the bedrooms were redone, tested for lighting, re-rendered and the locations display code was expanded to allow such upgrades.

And yet...



That's not even true. There's a new masturbation scene for Eve, a masturbation scene for Riley, a very kinky masturbation scene with Alice will be added by full release, and the generaly-disliked minigame was replaced with a scene that's quite horny too. So sure, that's not a lot of H-scenes, but go back to point 1 too see why I had other priorities.

Now for those of you who know where PornHub is for a quick fap and don't mind waiting a little for some built-up porn, the porn is coming...

Now one last thing before I go that I could use some explanation for...



You don't like dream sequences why exactly? I can't be because they are not canon or built-up (like most people it seems, I know that's how it works for me) because when the dev builds up it's a "bullet to dodge"... Please make it make sense.
And I haven't played Subverse, so I don't know what you mean by that.

what i mean by h-scene is blowjob handjob vaginal sex anal sex thighjob assjob footjob titjob masturbation its not a h-scene!!!!!

 

[rafahli]

and btw when i complained about your update you banned me from you subscribestar, you are a dev that always wants to be right even though you arent and cant stand hearing criticism from supporters!!

 

[rafahli]

Okay, but we're wrapping back to the main issue at hand.
Video games have this unique possibility of showing things that a 10 minute video or a 25 page doujin can't. When I came into the world of porn games, corruption and games with extensive buildup in general were the norm. Think of Dating My Daughter that took like 20 updates to have sex content (I mean dick in pussy) or Innocent Witches that did incredibly well (before they decided to rewrite the entire story).
I can't possibly show the sisters or mom or aunt having sex because I want to enjoy the full potential of the medium I chose (a video game) can offer. I want to show them slowly push their boudaries and break taboo one touch at a time.
To me, just showing incest sex is like showing a cooking video. You get the look, but you don't get the smell or taste of the dish, just like in your quick, not built-up sex scene you don't get a proper feel of the taboo and the sense that you're looking at something forbidden. Those things need to be laid out, there needs to be doubt shown in the characters minds, and lust, and many things so its proper potential can reveal itself to the player.
To me, maybe because I played those older games, those things are a given. You're playing a video game because you want to see buildup. I'll never understand people complaining about not getting immediate sex when PornHub is just a click away.

Now if you're talking about how long my updates take to make, I acknowledged that on my release post. I know my updates are long, and I keep trying my best to shorten my dev cycles. The comparison to The Red Room doesn't hold up either. I always keep my followers up-to-date every 10 days (I have without fail for more than a year now), which is not even the main issue with ALISHIA, which is that she tends to disappear (because of real-life events), not being able to work for months on end which is not my case. The size of my updates match how long they take to make.

So yeah, for now, it's obviously impossible for me to show a (non-dream) sex scene (again, meaning dick in pussy) because there's no proper story that explains how the characters got there. I'm sure with everything I set up during 0.4 I'll have occasions to show some sexual activity though, and the next update will have more and more references to horniness, but I'll hold that thought to myself until 0.4 enters full release. But please stop asking for sex (again, excluding simple teasing) scenes when it doesn't make sense for it to happen now...

Its fair to want to develop the story and the characters before an h-scene, but the time you took in each update and we didn't even had a handjob, it's really a shame

 

[Misarmor]

what i mean by h-scene is blowjob handjob vaginal sex anal sex thighjob assjob footjob titjob masturbation its not a h-scene!!!!!

Expect it is LOL, there are entire doujins out there dedicated to futanari girls masturbating...
And you're not responding to my other point, tell me where you'd have put scenes like those in 0.4 where it makes sense?

and btw when i complained about your update you banned me from you subscribestar

And wow we're even making shit up now. I've never banned ANYONE from my subscribestar... The only thing you can do is disable commenting, and I didn't even know about this function until you mentionned me doing this just now and I had to check if it was even possible.

no new h-scenes, really bad development

you are a dev that always wants to be right even though you arent and cant stand hearing criticism from supporters!!

Hey, maybe if your """""criticism""""" didn't take a whole 6 words of very detailed and obviously very well-informed opinions (this is sarcasm, just in case), I wouldn't have such an itch to respond to it in the manner I am, don't you think? And that's the core of my answer to you: what you're giving me isn't criticism, there are no arguments, no points being made. Your "criticism" hold in a mere 6 words of nothingness. you're just sharting your spoiled child frustrations on my thread. There are several instances where I have responded positively to PROPER feedback on here, and there would be more if 9/10 people on here weren't a series of stereotypical "DeveLOPmEnt BAd", and "No SEx, -1000/10" trolls.

 

[rafahli]

Okay, but we're wrapping back to the main issue at hand.
Video games have this unique possibility of showing things that a 10 minute video or a 25 page doujin can't. When I came into the world of porn games, corruption and games with extensive buildup in general were the norm. Think of Dating My Daughter that took like 20 updates to have sex content (I mean dick in pussy) or Innocent Witches that did incredibly well (before they decided to rewrite the entire story).
I can't possibly show the sisters or mom or aunt having sex because I want to enjoy the full potential of the medium I chose (a video game) can offer. I want to show them slowly push their boudaries and break taboo one touch at a time.
To me, just showing incest sex is like showing a cooking video. You get the look, but you don't get the smell or taste of the dish, just like in your quick, not built-up sex scene you don't get a proper feel of the taboo and the sense that you're looking at something forbidden. Those things need to be laid out, there needs to be doubt shown in the characters minds, and lust, and many things so its proper potential can reveal itself to the player.
To me, maybe because I played those older games, those things are a given. You're playing a video game because you want to see buildup. I'll never understand people complaining about not getting immediate sex when PornHub is just a click away.

Now if you're talking about how long my updates take to make, I acknowledged that on my release post. I know my updates are long, and I keep trying my best to shorten my dev cycles. The comparison to The Red Room doesn't hold up either. I always keep my followers up-to-date every 10 days (I have without fail for more than a year now), which is not even the main issue with ALISHIA, which is that she tends to disappear (because of real-life events), not being able to work for months on end which is not my case. The size of my updates match how long they take to make.

So yeah, for now, it's obviously impossible for me to show a (non-dream) sex scene (again, meaning dick in pussy) because there's no proper story that explains how the characters got there. I'm sure with everything I set up during 0.4 I'll have occasions to show some sexual activity though, and the next update will have more and more references to horniness, but I'll hold that thought to myself until 0.4 enters full release. But please stop asking for sex (again, excluding simple teasing) scenes when it doesn't make sense for it to happen now...

you talking about pornhub is just a lame excuse, if I wanted to watch real porn, of course I could go there but if Im here its because I want to see a game with 3d characters, with dialogues and stuff, but that doesnt change the fact that we want fap material and teasing and masturbation dont fit into that

 

[rafahli]

Expect it is LOL, there are entire doujins out there dedicated to futanari girls masturbating...
And you're not responding to my other point, tell me where you'd have put scenes like those in 0.4 where it makes sense?



And wow we're even making shit up now. I've never banned ANYONE from my subscribestar... The only thing you can do is disable commenting, and I didn't even know about this function until you mentionned me doing this just now and I had to check if it was even possible.





Hey, maybe if your """""critisicm""""" didn't take a whole 6 words of very detailed and obviously very well-informed opinions (this is sarcasm, just in case), I wouldn't have such an itch to respond to it in the manner I am, don't you think? And that's the core of my answer to you: what you're giving me isn't criticism, there are no arguments, no points being made. Your "criticism" hold in a mere 6 words of nothingness. you're just sharting your spoiled child frustrations on my thread. There are several instances where I have responded positively to PROPER feedback on here, and there would be more if 9/10 people on here weren't a series of stereotypical "DeveLOPmEnt BAd", and "No SEx, -1000/10" trolls.

there is no need to make sense as it is a porn game and not a AAA game

 

[Misarmor]

you talking about pornhub is just a lame excuse, if I wanted to watch real porn, of course I could go there but if Im here its because I want to see a game with 3d characters, with dialogues and stuff, but that doesnt change the fact that we want fap material and teasing and masturbation dont fit into that

Damn, MrDotsGames must have been reaaally happy you weren't on his thread when he made thousands of dollars a month by not even having oral sex on Dating My Daughter by the time he released the 10th version of his game! And thank fuck Akabur stopped browsing F95 because everyone would be complaining about the grind in Witch Trainer! (a game that inspired several VERY popular games by the way!)

there is no need to make sense as it is a porn game and not a AAA game

Hear that fellow devs? Who cares about your story if it doesn't have a million dollar budget!

I'm seriously considering saving my braincells and ditching this thread altogether. Sorry for the people who were friendly on here, but I just can't keep having retarded arguments, for the sake of my own sanity...

 

[Insomnimaniac Games]

you talking about pornhub is just a lame excuse, if I wanted to watch real porn, of course I could go there but if Im here its because I want to see a game with 3d characters, with dialogues and stuff, but that doesnt change the fact that we want fap material and teasing and masturbation dont fit into that

Dude, just accept that this game isn't for you and move on. It's obvious this type of game isn't what you're looking for.

 

[rafahli]

Damn, MrDotsGames must have been reaaally happy you weren't on his thread when he made thousands of dollars a month by not even having oral sex on Dating My Daughter by the time he released the 10th version of his game! And thank fuck Akabur stopped browsing F95 because everyone would be complaining about the grind in Witch Trainer! (a game that inspired several VERY popular games by the way!)



Hear that fellow devs? Who cares about your story if it doesn't have a million dollar budget!

I'm seriously considering saving my braincells and ditching this thread altogether. Sorry for the people who were friendly on here, but I just can't keep having retarded arguments, for the sake of my own sanity...

i will stop answering you because as i said you always want to be """right"""

 

[F4irfield]

Damn, MrDotsGames must have been reaaally happy you weren't on his thread when he made thousands of dollars a month by not even having oral sex on Dating My Daughter by the time he released the 10th version of his game! And thank fuck Akabur stopped browsing F95 because everyone would be complaining about the grind in Witch Trainer! (a game that inspired several VERY popular games by the way!)



Hear that fellow devs? Who cares about your story if it doesn't have a million dollar budget!

I'm seriously considering saving my brain cells and ditching this thread altogether. Sorry for the people who were friendly on here, but I just can't keep having retarded arguments, for the sake of my own sanity...

I'm surprised that you keep responding to his troll comments, and even in such detail as well.
Just ignore him, he has no added value for this thread whatshowever.

And yes, I know cringe, but little fangirl in me likes this game a lot and don't want you to leave this thread
I hope you take all your time you need for this project and don't let people like him unsettle you.
(ignore my poor English, it's not my native language)

 

[Misarmor]

I'm surprised that you keep responding to his troll comments, and even in such detail as well.
Just ignore him, he has no added value for this thread whatshowever.

And yes, I know cringe, but little fangirl in me likes this game a lot and don't want you to leave this thread
I hope you take all your time you need for this project and don't let people like him unsettle you.
(ignore my poor English, it's not my native language)

You can always join Discord if you want, I'm pretty active there. You can even get notified when I do livestreams

 

[yoyomistro]

Okay, but we're wrapping back to the main issue at hand.
Video games have this unique possibility of showing things that a 10 minute video or a 25 page doujin can't. When I came into the world of porn games, corruption and games with extensive buildup in general were the norm. Think of Dating My Daughter that took like 20 updates to have sex content (I mean dick in pussy) or Innocent Witches that did incredibly well (before they decided to rewrite the entire story).
I can't possibly show the sisters or mom or aunt having sex because I want to enjoy the full potential of the medium I chose (a video game) can offer. I want to show them slowly push their boudaries and break taboo one touch at a time.
To me, just showing incest sex is like showing a cooking video. You get the look, but you don't get the smell or taste of the dish, just like in your quick, not built-up sex scene you don't get a proper feel of the taboo and the sense that you're looking at something forbidden. Those things need to be laid out, there needs to be doubt shown in the characters minds, and lust, and many things so its proper potential can reveal itself to the player.
To me, maybe because I played those older games, those things are a given. You're playing a video game because you want to see buildup. I'll never understand people complaining about not getting immediate sex when PornHub is just a click away.

Now if you're talking about how long my updates take to make, I acknowledged that on my release post. I know my updates are long, and I keep trying my best to shorten my dev cycles. The comparison to The Red Room doesn't hold up either. I always keep my followers up-to-date every 10 days (I have without fail for more than a year now), which is not even the main issue with ALISHIA, which is that she tends to disappear (because of real-life events), not being able to work for months on end which is not my case. The size of my updates match how long they take to make.

So yeah, for now, it's obviously impossible for me to show a (non-dream) sex scene (again, meaning dick in pussy) because there's no proper story that explains how the characters got there. I'm sure with everything I set up during 0.4 I'll have occasions to show some sexual activity though, and the next update will have more and more references to horniness, but I'll hold that thought to myself until 0.4 enters full release. But please stop asking for sex (again, excluding simple teasing) scenes when it doesn't make sense for it to happen now...

I actually agree with Limina_Leaker on the dream issue, it kinda cheapens arriving at the point you're building up to (ever so slightly), and it has limited/no impact on the dynamic in the story; unless it serves as a catalyst for behavioral change in the character having the dream. Then, I think it's perfectly fine and even useful as a narrative mechanic.

But if it's meant to display/work on technical skills or tide people over until the development gets to the point of real content being included, I personally think a porn-watching sequence serves better on that front. It sucks because you have to make throwaway characters for content that isn't going to be engaged with often, but it also preserves a lot of the excitement for the buildup that dream sequences chip away at. But with porn-viewing, you can also incorporate that into a masturbation scene, which would increase the engagement with both forms of content.

I think that's how a lot of people feel but they wouldn't express it in those words. You clearly state why buildup is so important in this post, especially for incest content, and most people who don't like dream sequences want that feeling maximally-preserved.

 

[Misarmor]

I think that's how a lot of people feel but they wouldn't express it in those words. You clearly state why buildup is so important in this post, especially for incest content, and most people who don't like dream sequences want that feeling maximally-preserved.

Yes, I explicitly went against my own tastes when I made those dream sequences, I feel that way about them too. I made them mostly because people were yearning for a sex scene, and I wanted to see if adding those would calm people who were complaining about the lack of sex (it didn't )
But I don't regret making them. In the end, it shows off in a nice way how horny Alice is for her relatives, it shows that the teasing Riley and Emily did on Alice in the living room was actually very effective, and honestly, I enjoyed making them. I think they're pretty hot. Visually I mean. Story wise... They're dream sequences

 

[babtayfur]

Can someone share the new update