Ren'Py A House in the Rift [v0.7.10b1] [Zanith]

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Dragon59

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Cartageno said:
Slight disagreement here. I mean, technically you are correct of course. But while some people read an AVN/play an adult game like they would read a book or watch a movie, i. e. as an outsider watching the action, even if it is told from the protagonist's view, some like to put themselves into the shoes of the protagonist and emphasize with him enough so that what is done to MC is done to me. Well, in a manner of speaking, when MC gets shot I don't start bleeding, so yeah, it is a difference and it is fiction, and similar things happen in other fictional stories where we get unhappy and have to roll with it or stop leaving (the most beloved character turns traitor or stuff). But in as far as such a fictional story goes, MC "is" me then.
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Remember, I was posting in the context of people who take immersion to an unhealthy level. Some people here take the stories far to personally, IMHO.
Biscardone said:
Glad I'm not the only one who thought the phrasing and tone was slightly off. And I know I'm preaching to the choir at this point, but it's evident I wasn't implying that Zanith was being menaced directly - that would be absurd, unless you believe Videodrome is real. However, any variation of "watch out, if you go this way you will alienate your patrons and lose your revenue" isn't much better, in my opinion.

For the sake of discussion, I'll also add that as far as I know at this point of the development none of the girls have ever made any claim of exclusivity, either between them and the MC or each other - unless I've missed some dialogue. In general, AHITR has a very laid back tone, and jealousy is overall kept to a minimum - at least in the game. That's why, given the premise, I find odd people could ever sound the betrayal alarm at the mere thought of the girls doing some "experimentation" with each other.
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Definitely the wording landed like a veiled threat.
 
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First time trying to see what Zanith post in twitter and i see a casting couch "video" instead of dev logs or how they are doing, it was a good surprise not gonna lie.
 
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SonicBoom said:
As I said, I'm not interested in continuing this debate, because I have seen already this kind of debates and I know it ends up escalating and with the mods deleting all the post. I have said what I wanted to say, and I don't even read other post about it. But by chance I have read your last line, and I must say it's absurd. Do you think I'm threatening ZanithOne? Really? Friendly warning means exactly that: FRIENDLY. Be careful means exactly that: be careful, because a lot of games has gone south and have had big problems with the fandom when the dev has introduced themes even slightly related with NTR, and I don't want that for a game that I mostly like and a dev that seems to be a good guy that interacts here. It was crystal clear in my posts, that are also written in a polite general tone, but apparently some people lack of reading skills or have a malicious mind.

Corleone-grade mob speak? What you say is insulting-grade, that's for sure. And I don't like to be insulted, so I'm going to block you.
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what you said comes off as a thinly veiled threat. by definition, a warning means bad things will likely happen and just putting the word friendly in front of it doesn't make it different. you can spin it anyway you want but that doesn't change the definition of the word. also insulting people does not help make your point any more valid
 
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SonicBoom said:
Never, I hope, if MC is not involved by instigating it. A game it´s not a movie or a novel. It's not even a Visual Novel. The player is not just a viewer. He takes decisions, so he must be involved mostly in everything that happens around him.
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I'm not sure where you are getting any of that. First off, it's not even added yet so there is no way to confirm the he's not instigating it. And second, though it hasn't been implemented so far there have been sever times the player has been able to give responses that suggest they are in fact fine with it.

SonicBoom said:
It seems that you are here for a long time. How many times has you seen that a dev of a popular game decides to make two Lis lesbians by surprise and have some kind of relationship that MC (the player) doesn't know, thinking "everybody likes two girls making out with each other in a porn game, so...
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Again, there is no "surprise" lesbians. Rae is very open to both sexes from the start. Naomi and Blair have a full conversation with the MC about them licking other girls. Cait has already shown interest in a subtle way. The only one who really hasn't is El but she is "prudish" for lack of a better word so she may not even be able to accept it her self. It's also hard to tell where Yona stands on that. Three openly Bi character wanting to sleep with the same sex shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

It's like you have been playing a different game than I have. Or have played this one at all.
 
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Cartageno said:
Slight disagreement here. I mean, technically you are correct of course. But while some people read an AVN/play an adult game like they would read a book or watch a movie, i. e. as an outsider watching the action, even if it is told from the protagonist's view, some like to put themselves into the shoes of the protagonist and emphasize with him enough so that what is done to MC is done to me. Well, in a manner of speaking, when MC gets shot I don't start bleeding, so yeah, it is a difference and it is fiction, and similar things happen in other fictional stories where we get unhappy and have to roll with it or stop leaving (the most beloved character turns traitor or stuff). But in as far as such a fictional story goes, MC "is" me then.
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Yep, when I play the game and this game is good enough to be immersive so I am the MC, which, sometimes is not a very pleasant thing due to the stupidity level of ....well, mc so myself...
 
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Pif paf said:
Yep, when I play the game and this game is good enough to be immersive so I am the MC, which, sometimes is not a very pleasant thing due to the stupidity level of ....well, mc so myself...
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Yeah, I feel you. Also I have that pain when MC/me does something stupid and has to suffer for it when I didn't have a choice, even though I would have chosen the same thing. But then it would be on me and getting flak for my own mistakes is okay, getting flak for "other peoples'" mistakes not so much.
 
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