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jotaurbano

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I downloaded it and played it for a bit... and when Monica said he was a side dish, I went to read the comments and deleted it. Because it never made it clear if the love interest was actually involved with another man... which means netorare to me...
 

Avaron1974

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I downloaded it and played it for a bit... and when Monica said he was a side dish, I went to read the comments and deleted it. Because it never made it clear if the love interest was actually involved with another man... which means netorare to me...
She's married which makes it netori.
 

Avaron1974

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Nah, that's not netori in this story, that netorase. MC borrowing her, with husband approval. I still don't understand, why this thread don't have swinging tag.
Husband didn't know and when he found out he asked her to stop.

She's going to suggest an open marriage but she doesn't have permission yet.
 

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Oh boy, I just finished the new update. Holy shit, this is going to be a messy chapter to come. I already know a lot of screaming and crying will be happening, but the question that gets me is, how will the woman be okay with the harem? And now, what happens in the next update? How will it unfold?
 
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The whole world of relationships does not run according to the "Laws of the Red Pill". (Or the Blue Pill either)
Relationships in the real world are as varied from one extreme to another, and literally anything in between, according to the wishes of those involved. Games are different from reality, they are fantasies that only reflect reality, and are not bound by it.
When confronted with something different than your own ideology, a smart person will try to use reason and understanding to comprehend what is happening and whether they can let it into their lives or not. We all make those decisions by ourselves. Its called choice of lifestyle. There is no handbook, and laws and customs vary widely across the world.
You can choose to deal with it, or not. Entirely up to you.
If a game doesn't fit your mores, and you are not up to the challenge of what is presented, then make that choice.
Simple really.
I, for one, will wait for the story to unfold, as it may have some gold in it that I haven't come across elsewhere, and that will be a good thing, for me at least.
Too much rigidity is not good for anyone. (Well, that's my choice generally)
 
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Avaron1974

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so MC is a cuck who can have some pussy if her husband allows it.

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what's next? orgasm denial and chastity play?
No.

The MC has a fucked up outlook on life.

He won't get into a relationship with a woman that has been touched by another man. He reconnected with an old girlfriend and they started fucking. He told her flat out that even if she left her husband she would only ever be a side fuck.

She has no incentive to leave her husband and the fact she knows the MC will never see her as a love interest is the reason she won't leave.

None of us know why the dev has done this, it makes no sense and it's all a bit weird.

it was implied throughout the first update and part of the second that she was a love interest then he dumped the weird talk on her and that's why people are irritated in the forum.

MC will only date women who's virginity he took.
 

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Well, i kinda overlooked the kinetic tag.
Just reminded me why i don't play those, forced LI's/relationships and sex scenes, like with Monica are what kills any enjoyment for me...but i played most of it, so my 2 cents.

The MC is a clown... what was that nonsense about only taking girls in his harem of which he took the virginity and they didn't have other partners ( jfc, this MC is so utterly pathetic )...at the same time the dude had no problems letting his wife fuck others...but then, i'm not a member of the ''lesbians are hawt club'', nor i'm into sharing, so what do i know...

Then there is the thing where one of the girls should 'pay' for her education...as if my opinion of this pathetic dude wasn't already low enough...and what is that crap with bringing her bf into his house...now i get that you probably try to make him a cuck, but there's exactly no way i would ever want that guy living in the same house as the MC and his girls...

On that note i can only agree with others here, the whole Monica plot is really bad, even worse for her character.

Genuinely needed to laugh once.
As the MC laughed that Monica's husband is a cuck, because he wanted her back when she cheated on him and how pathetic he is...
Like dude, you ''love'' her, she is still fucking another guy, is going back to him cause she loves him, tells how she ''loves'' her hubby after you just fucked her and you still go back to her, begging her to fuck you (and need his permission :KEK:)...you sure aren't the brightest one, are you.

Maybe you're right; those who want harem stories don't care if the story is unrealistic, they just want to sleep with all the characters and have them be theirs alone.
While i'm not the largest harem fan and i prefer a good story. This whole Monica/MC situation is not any more realistic, or intelligent (be it from the MC's or Monica's perspective), then the most overused harem cliches .
And YES, if i play a harem game i expect the LI's to be mine alone...that's the whole reason i play a harem game...if i wanted to be eskimo brothers with another dude i'd play a sharing/swinging game.
I would have had Monica simply leave her husband, but it seemed a little simple and boring to me; I thought it was more exciting and hot for MC to sleep with a married friend and have her husband give his approval.
But anyway, unfortunately, people aren't seeing it that way.
So i asume what you wanted to do is a Netori/cuckold scenario, or at least a scenario which feels like it for the players.
If you want a good Netori scenario it's mostly preferred using a LI in a bad relationship, often also a bad partner.
That is because if you use a LI which is happy, in love, cares for her hubby and the husband is a good dude, you make her really unlikeable if she's happily cheating on him.
On the other hand, a LI in a bad relationship, with a shitty husband ? It's understandable why she'd be ready to cheat and the player may even like to humiliate the dick of a husband.
Also the whole point of Netori is to make her yours and yours alone. The hubby isn't allowed to be with her, maybe you even want to give him a front chair when you bang his wife and humiliate him.
What you did is making a sharing/swinging scenario, not really popular in a game aimed at harem players, even less if it's forced.

As for Monica, she is absolute unlikeable, i wouldn't want to touch her with a 10 foot pole. Be it her cheating on the guy she loves, speaking bad about him, or let others speak bad about him and her 'forcing' her husband to be a 'cuck' is vile (if she actually cares about him in the slightest)...like man, even ntr games have more likeable girls, at least the ones who break up with their partners, to be with the guy they want...

And i use the term ''love'' here very loosely (be it the MC with his...questionable outlook, or Monica)...because if this how Monica shows love i don't want to know how she is to people she doesn't like.
If she is not a LI, why spend so much fucking time on her ? Spend it on actual harem girls.
So, the MC doesn't really care about her (besides being hole to fuck) and most of her scenes aren't important for the story either, as a player i don't care either (or rather, i dislike her)...what is even the purpose of this whole situation with Monica ?
Because frankly, the game would be better without her, or them being just friends...
 
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odbpm

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That makes this all situation even worse tbh.

And I agree that the game had been building her as a love interest. The amount of time the game spends on her, talking about their backstory, their relationship and then all of a sudden, it turns the MC only sees her as piece of meat, and even considers her some kind of used goods, or lower category of woman thats not fit to be with him on a serious relationship, and she just accepts that? if thats the mother of his child then wow. I truly dont know what to say about it anymore.

It is clear the MC is a piece shit for sure, and theres something seriously wrong with Monica as well. and her husband, and well, pretty much everyone on this game, theyre on drugs or something.
fr not to mention that dev wants to make a realistic harem/incest story :ROFLMAO: but lets be real if you had a good relationship 20 years ago with someone but she runs away without a word, and then 20 years later you find out the reason she ran away was because she was pregnant with your child and her excuse was because your where too young "even tho your same age". runs away to find a husband that can provide for your child.
would you just sit there with a smile on your face and not consider taking legal action against her?
 
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MrBenny

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Adjustment Mod V1.0

Hi...
I complied together a few minor utility mods, as well included a few UI adjustments which visually improves this title.
  • Changed the default black game_menu.png image with a dark textured version.
  • Edited the gui.rpy file, adjusted some numbers (reduced and or changed some of the game settings to fix the font size and positioning).
  • Changed out the red frame.png image with a version similar to the game settings colour.
  • Included a Universal Choice Descriptor mod (this mod can display on screen, some hidden content data that could be behind some story choices...if there will be any coded choices added later on.)
  • Included the 0x52_URM tool. (A useful tool that can almost do anything with Ren'Py titles...useful to have readily available)
  • Also included a Universal quick menu mod that hide's or display's the quick menu by pressing your Q key. (Used to clean up the dialog area of your screen.)
  • Included a custom dialog text outline mod (places a slight dark shadow affect outline around the dialog, and name fonts (easier to view the dialog text against variously changing background frames).
  • Included a modified version of the Universal 4+1 Text box Mod, with a opacity slider (This mod is used to bypasses this title's default text box settings (which is hidden), forcing to display the new theme default choice textbox.png image).


Install:
Just extract and merge the mod's game folder with this titles game folder (over write when prompted).

Then run your game.exe, and enjoy this title's minor UI changes and added utility mod features.


Regards.




(Some example images below...)
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MrBenny

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this game is low key NTR :unsure:
I kind of agree, but it looks like it's going for the sharing/swinging story...but I could be wrong. And with no confirming future tags posted...anything could be later introduced into the story.

Most dev's learn to post in their genre section the "never happening messages", and the "what will be optional and or avoidable content tags" Epecially with the highly contraversal content tags, which can quickly tank a title with a huge loss of a fanbase. But as it stands this title is structure as a kenetic title, so there are no choices for the player at this point of the story.

Regards
 
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There's something seriously unhinged with this MC. I don't really have a problem with how most of the things went down so far but the whole paying to own Azumy thing is fucked up. He claims it's not manipulative but it definitely is even with all the "outs" he gave her. Being that obsessed with fucking virgins to leverage her dreams and friendship with Kira is icky. I don't care how much money you have to throw around, it's a pathetic move.

The only way I'd see him as remotely redeemable is if he decided to help Azumy without any strings now that he knows...
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MrBenny

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There's something seriously unhinged with this MC. I don't really have a problem with how most of the things went down so far but the whole paying to own Azumy thing is fucked up. He claims it's not manipulative but it definitely is even with all the "outs" he gave her. Being that obsessed with fucking virgins to leverage her dreams and friendship with Kira is icky. I don't care how much money you have to throw around, it's a pathetic move.

The only way I'd see him as remotely redeemable is if he decided to help Azumy without any strings now that he knows...
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I agree. I also felt MC came across as desperate as well,to suddenly offer that bald douche to also live with them is awkward. For me one of the best girls...is Azumy, who I guess recently just lost her v-card with the bald Smegal (Tony)... And it sounds like she will only be a side girl, based off of MC's asinine virgin only crap for any of the main girls.

But for me Kira's behaviour is totally applauding with her continued immature threats and ultimatums towards MC. Didn't MC already experience that shit previously when his wife was alive with another younger girl? He's not much of a player if he is constantly simping or having to lie to get into some of the girls pants.

I also find Kira not very attractive compared to any of the other girls so far introduced.

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The whole world of relationships does not run according to the "Laws of the Red Pill". (Or the Blue Pill either)
Relationships in the real world are as varied from one extreme to another, and literally anything in between, according to the wishes of those involved. Games are different from reality, they are fantasies that only reflect reality, and are not bound by it.
When confronted with something different than your own ideology, a smart person will try to use reason and understanding to comprehend what is happening and whether they can let it into their lives or not. We all make those decisions by ourselves. Its called choice of lifestyle. There is no handbook, and laws and customs vary widely across the world.
You can choose to deal with it, or not. Entirely up to you.
If a game doesn't fit your mores, and you are not up to the challenge of what is presented, then make that choice.
Simple really.
I, for one, will wait for the story to unfold, as it may have some gold in it that I haven't come across elsewhere, and that will be a good thing, for me at least.
Too much rigidity is not good for anyone. (Well, that's my choice generally)
If you are so cucked that you allow yourself to get tied down in a situation like the one with Monica, dude, I don't know how to tell you this, but I try to stay positive here. It is okay to have self-respect and to walk away. Don't disrespect yourself, and don't let others disrespect you by blatantly lying to your face. People like that are bad for your mental health. Cut them off and walk away.


Well, i kinda overlooked the kinetic tag.
Just reminded me why i don't play those, forced LI's/relationships and sex scenes, like with Monica are what kills any enjoyment for me...but i played most of it, so my 2 cents.

The MC is a clown... what was that nonsense about only taking girls in his harem of which he took the virginity and they didn't have other partners ( jfc, this MC is so utterly pathetic )...at the same time the dude had no problems letting his wife fuck others...but then, i'm not a member of the ''lesbians are hawt club'', nor i'm into sharing, so what do i know...

Then there is the thing where one of the girls should 'pay' for her education...as if my opinion of this pathetic dude wasn't already low enough...and what is that crap with bringing her bf into his house...now i get that you probably try to make him a cuck, but there's exactly no way i would ever want that guy living in the same house as the MC and his girls...

On that note i can only agree with others here, the whole Monica plot is really bad, even worse for her character.

Genuinely needed to laugh once.
As the MC laughed that Monica's husband is a cuck, because he wanted her back when she cheated on him and how pathetic he is...
Like dude, you ''love'' her, she is still fucking another guy, is going back to him cause she loves him, tells how she ''loves'' her hubby after you just fucked her and you still go back to her, begging her to fuck you (and need his permission :KEK:)...you sure aren't the brightest one, are you.


While i'm not the largest harem fan and i prefer a good story. This whole Monica/MC situation is not any more realistic, or intelligent (be it from the MC's or Monica's perspective), then the most overused harem cliches .
And YES, if i play a harem game i expect the LI's to be mine alone...that's the whole reason i play a harem game...if i wanted to be eskimo brothers with another dude i'd play a sharing/swinging game.

So i asume what you wanted to do is a Netori/cuckold scenario, or at least a scenario which feels like it for the players.
If you want a good Netori scenario it's mostly preferred using a LI in a bad relationship, often also a bad partner.
That is because if you use a LI which is happy, in love, cares for her hubby and the husband is a good dude, you make her really unlikeable if she's happily cheating on him.
On the other hand, a LI in a bad relationship, with a shitty husband ? It's understandable why she'd be ready to cheat and the player may even like to humiliate the dick of a husband.
Also the whole point of Netori is to make her yours and yours alone. The hubby isn't allowed to be with her, maybe you even want to give him a front chair when you bang his wife and humiliate him.
What you did is making a sharing/swinging scenario, not really popular in a game aimed at harem players, even less if it's forced.

As for Monica, she is absolute unlikeable, i wouldn't want to touch her with a 10 foot pole. Be it her cheating on the guy she loves, speaking bad about him, or let others speak bad about him and her 'forcing' her husband to be a 'cuck' is vile (if she actually cares about him in the slightest)...like man, even ntr games have more likeable girls, at least the ones who break up with their partners, to be with the guy they want...

And i use the term ''love'' here very loosely (be it the MC with his...questionable outlook, or Monica)...because if this how Monica shows love i don't want to know how she is to people she doesn't like.
If she is not a LI, why spend so much fucking time on her ? Spend it on actual harem girls.
So, the MC doesn't really care about her (besides being hole to fuck) and most of her scenes aren't important for the story either, as a player i don't care either (or rather, i dislike her)...what is even the purpose of this whole situation with Monica ?
Because frankly, the game would be better without her, or them being just friends...
fr not to mention that dev wants to make a realistic harem/incest story :ROFLMAO: but lets be real if you had a good relationship 20 years ago with someone but she runs away without a word, and then 20 years later you find out the reason she ran away was because she was pregnant with your child and her excuse was because your where too young "even tho your same age". runs away to find a husband that can provide for your child.
would you just sit there with a smile on your face and not consider taking legal action against her?
agree with both of you wholeheartedly, but out of reactions, so take that "(y)" instead and don't spend all of it at the liquor store
 

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If you are so cucked that you allow yourself to get tied down in a situation like the one with Monica, dude, I don't know how to tell you this, but I try to stay positive here. It is okay to have self-respect and to walk away. Don't disrespect yourself, and don't let others disrespect you by blatantly lying to your face. People like that are bad for your mental health. Cut them off and walk away.
Dude, you just didn't get it didya?
Your loss. I'm not the one living in a black and white fantasy.
You do you, it's all good.
But don't try to tell me who I am. My mental health is fine, but thanks for the faux concern. Your assumptions suck...
 

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Hi DEV: Bychipi
I have important questions:
1.- Will there be content and a harem ending?
And is the content forced or can it be avoided? By this I mean some fetishes or labels that sometimes appear in the game that aren't to everyone's liking, such as LESBIANS, NTR, femdom, etc.
Avoiding is not the same as omitting, the first is that the player avoids, stops and in itself it does not happen in any way, nor behind the cameras is it as if it had never happened, As for skipping, it happens only that the player decides not to see it
 
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