VN Ren'Py A.L.I History [Ch.4] [Bychipi]

[Lynava]

Sex for financial or material compensation is also the literal definition of prostitution.
Considering a kept woman is a bit off a dated term, usually kinda synonymus with a mistress and extramarital affair for which the woman receives money...well see above just she's only with one guy, for a longer term, also sounds much nicer.

Hmm, in Russia (where I'm from) kept women are very popular among unmarried men.
As I wrote earlier, different mentalities.

 

[Raziel_8]

Hmm, in Russia (where I'm from) kept women are very popular among unmarried men.
As I wrote earlier, different mentalities.

I wonder why, do they actually have kind of a relationship with them, or is it just for sex without commitment ?
If it's the former, wouldn't it be cheaper to just marry her

 

[Lynava]

I wonder why, do they actually have kind of a relationship with them, or is it just for sex without commitment ?
If it's the former, wouldn't it be cheaper to just marry her

Let's put it this way: when you get married, ALL your money goes to her. And most people don't want a "relationship" because it takes time, and they don't want to get anything from a prostitute. Besides, marriage is becoming less and less popular in Russia.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

But this is literally a description of a kept woman.

So, she's a kept woman/prostitute (I assume she'll accept the deal).

Let's put it this way: when you get married, ALL your money goes to her. And most people don't want a "relationship" because it takes time, and they don't want to get anything from a prostitute. Besides, marriage is becoming less and less popular in Russia.

And that's why I love the "separate property" system: whatever the husband earns and buys is his, whatever the wife earns and buys is hers, and if they divorce, it's clear what belongs to each of them; and if the wife has no assets, that's what she gets. This has been the default system for marriages here for several years now; if you want to use a different system (community property, shared assets—I'm not sure those are the correct translations, I'm not a lawyer and English isn't my native language), you can do that.


Well, I've finished chapter 2, and I have no hope that things will improve in chapter 3. In fact, nothing that happened in the first two chapters gives me any incentive to continue reading.

Okay, I'm lying; there is something that makes me want to continue. And it's truly amazing that the only thing driving me to keep going is to see if the game can possibly get even worse.

 

[bigfuckinE]

Holy fuck! Is dude really just chilling in a school chair/desk (made of cardboard?) in the middle of the forest?!?! hahahaha

 

[GodlessPhantom]

Lol mods removed the swinging/sharing tag which should be there. What they need to remove is the harem tag, i made a post i think yesterday about giving this a couple more updates to see if things change but after reading some post of those who played this further than me i can say this game can not be saved without some massive rework cause right now it is all over the place with all the stupid shit that makes no since for what was going to be a harem game.

P.S. Everyone sit down class is in session todays subject 101 ways to ruin a harem game Recommended next class 101 ways to avoid self sabotage

Edit: Oh the swinging tag is back along with the prostitution tag being added since i don't remember it being there before.

 

[Lynava]

Literally the news of the week

Prices for Moscow prostitutes have doubled due to the rising cost of cosmetics and plastic surgery. Expenses for beauty salons, apartment rentals, clothing, and sex toys have also skyrocketed. While an hour previously cost $120-$240, girls now charge $360-$480. However, the high prices have scared off many clients, who have migrated en masse to dating sites and "kept women". As a result, demand for prostitutes has fallen by roughly half.

 

[Woodstock_1983]

I wish we could've avoided the anal scenes. I had to fast forward so much lol.

 

[Woodstock_1983]

I see other guys, i hope there's no NTR in the game. The females I sleep with I want to myself.

 

[Juerhullycin]

I see other guys, i hope there's no NTR in the game. The females I sleep with I want to myself.

Ohh boy, have I bad news for you, my friend.

 

[Shiko200]

Man people on this thread are MAD over porn game content and its the usual bunch too. Well thx for the game dev i wish you luck.

 

[Bychipi]

Man people on this thread are MAD over porn game content and its the usual bunch too. Well thx for the game dev i wish you luck.

Thank you very much, my friend. Greetings.

 

[MaPaRi1979]

I may be wrong, but the current problem in the world is a lack of patience. People have no idea what the developer envisioned for the game. Then, their theories don't come to fruition, and they get irritated. A tip for you: if you don't like it, don't play it. There are many other games available. If you want a steamy harem that starts in the first scene, look for it; there are several. If you don't want NTR, look for it; there are several games available that don't have it.

As the game unfolded in the early chapters, I considered several things, like Kira's supposed boyfriend being one of MC's sons. There's the question of him having another daughter and something happening to her that made him regret not having a close relationship. Maybe that's why he has this relationship with his adopted daughter, Eva, but he's not ready to talk about it, and with that, we can come up with a thousand theories.

Recruiting the MC as a sugar daddy doesn't mean Azumy will join the harem. Of course, our MC's golden rule is nearly impossible in the real world. But remember: it's a game, it's fiction, and we need to allow the developer to discover and develop a story so we can fully understand their idea.

Just one example of what I mean: Those who watched Joss Wendon's "Justice League" may have been confused by some things. They made a short film that didn't develop the Cyborg character, for example. They had to re-release the film with Zack Snider's original version to understand his story and how he became Cyborg. Sometimes, summarizing too much creates more confusion than simply doing something to satisfy some people's egos.

 

[Bychipi]

Posso estar enganado, mas o problema atual do mundo é a falta de paciência. As pessoas não têm ideia do que o desenvolvedor imaginou para o jogo. Aí, suas teorias não são concretizadas e elas ficam irritadas. Uma dica para você: se não gosta, não jogue. Existem muitos outros jogos disponíveis. Se você quer um harém picante que começa na primeira cena, procure; existem vários. Se você não quer NTR, procure; existem vários jogos disponíveis que não o têm.

À medida que o jogo se desenvolvia nos primeiros capítulos, considerei várias coisas, como o suposto namorado de Kira ser um dos filhos de MC. Há a questão de ele ter outra filha e de algo ter acontecido com ela da qual ele se arrependeu de não ter tido um relacionamento próximo. Talvez seja por isso que ele tem esse relacionamento com sua filha adotiva, Eva, mas ele não está pronto para falar sobre isso, e com isso, podemos inventar mil teorias.

O recrutamento do MC como sugar daddy não significa que Azumy fará parte do harém. É claro que a regra de ouro do nosso MC é algo quase impossível no mundo real. Mas lembre-se: é um jogo, é ficção, e precisamos permitir que o desenvolvedor descubra e desenvolva uma história para que possamos entender completamente a ideia dele.

Apenas um exemplo do que quero dizer: quem assistiu a "Liga da Justiça", de Joss Wendon, pode ter ficado confuso com algumas coisas. Eles fizeram um curta-metragem que não desenvolveu o personagem Ciborgue, por exemplo. Foi necessário relançar o filme com a versão original de Zack Snider para entender sua história e como ele se tornou Ciborgue. Às vezes, resumir demais gera mais dúvidas do que simplesmente fazer algo para satisfazer o ego de algumas pessoas.

Thanks for your comment, but I'm sorry to say it's being deleted because it's not in English. I recommend translating it before commenting, but still, thanks—finally someone who understands.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

My computer must have gone crazy, I translated it into English before posting, maybe the automatic translation changed the text by accident.

I may be wrong, but the current problem in the world is a lack of patience. People have no idea what the developer envisioned for the game. Then, their theories don't come to fruition, and they get irritated. A tip for you: if you don't like it, don't play it. There are many other games available. If you want a steamy harem that starts in the first scene, look for it; there are several. If you don't want NTR, look for it; there are several games available that don't have it.

As the game developed in the first chapters, I considered several things, such as Kira's supposed boyfriend being one of MC's sons. There's the issue of him having another daughter and something happening to her that made him regret not having a close relationship. Maybe that's why he has this relationship with his adopted daughter, Eva, but he's not ready to talk about it, and with that, we can come up with a thousand theories.

Recruiting MC as a sugar daddy doesn't mean Azumy will be part of the harem. Of course, our MC's golden rule is nearly impossible in the real world. But remember: it's a game, it's fiction, and we need to allow the developer to discover and develop a story so we can fully understand their idea.

Just one example of what I mean: those who watched Joss Wendon's "Justice League" may have been confused by some things. They made a short film that didn't develop the Cyborg character, for example. They had to re-release the film with the original version of Zack Snider to understand his story and how he became Cyborg. Sometimes, summarizing too much creates more confusion than simply doing something to satisfy some people's egos.

The problem isn't a lack of patience, the problem is the plot. We all know that Azumi isn't part of the harem because of the MC's stupid rule (it's stupid in real life and in the game, possibly even more stupid in the game), and the same with Monica, but the game initially focuses on her as if she were the most important LI in the game (here's a plot flaw). If I play a harem game, it's because I want the MC to develop a relationship, ideally a romantic one, with the LIs, not so he can treat one girl (no LI) like a personal prostitute and have casual, meaningless sex with other (no LI) while having no relationship at all with the real LIs. Patience is a virtue, but wasting time isn't, and the first two chapters definitely fall into the latter category. When I play a harem game, I want the MC to develop a relationship with the love interests, and so far, almost all the effort is focused on developing a relationship with girls who aren't LIs and won't be part of the harem; this certainly wears down my patience very quickly when I realize the MC is wasting time on something I couldn't care less about. But the solution is simple: get rid of the stupid rule and make both of them real love interests who are part of the harem (and get rid of one girl's boyfriend and the other's husband, who have no place in the game and only get in the way; their presence only ruins the game, and the more they appear, the worse the game becomes, and there's no way the developer can make their screen time worthwhile).

 

[MaPaRi1979]

Thanks for your comment, but I'm sorry to say it's being deleted because it's not in English. I recommend translating it before commenting, but still, thanks—finally someone who understands.

My computer must have gone crazy, I translated it into English before posting, maybe the automatic translation changed the text by accident.

I may be wrong, but the current problem in the world is a lack of patience. People have no idea what the developer envisioned for the game. Then, their theories don't come to fruition, and they get irritated. A tip for you: if you don't like it, don't play it. There are many other games available. If you want a steamy harem that starts in the first scene, look for it; there are several. If you don't want NTR, look for it; there are several games available that don't have it.

As the game developed in the first chapters, I considered several things, such as Kira's supposed boyfriend being one of MC's sons. There's the issue of him having another daughter and something happening to her that made him regret not having a close relationship. Maybe that's why he has this relationship with his adopted daughter, Eva, but he's not ready to talk about it, and with that, we can come up with a thousand theories.

Recruiting MC as a sugar daddy doesn't mean Azumy will be part of the harem. Of course, our MC's golden rule is nearly impossible in the real world. But remember: it's a game, it's fiction, and we need to allow the developer to discover and develop a story so we can fully understand their idea.

Just one example of what I mean: those who watched Joss Wendon's "Justice League" may have been confused by some things. They made a short film that didn't develop the Cyborg character, for example. They had to re-release the film with the original version of Zack Snider to understand his story and how he became Cyborg. Sometimes, summarizing too much creates more confusion than simply doing something to satisfy some people's egos.

 

[MaPaRi1979]

The problem isn't a lack of patience, the problem is the plot. We all know that Azumi isn't part of the harem because of the MC's stupid rule (it's stupid in real life and in the game, possibly even more stupid in the game), and the same with Monica, but the game initially focuses on her as if she were the most important LI in the game (here's a plot flaw). If I play a harem game, it's because I want the MC to develop a relationship, ideally a romantic one, with the LIs, not so he can treat one girl (no LI) like a personal prostitute and have casual, meaningless sex with other (no LI) while having no relationship at all with the real LIs. Patience is a virtue, but wasting time isn't, and the first two chapters definitely fall into the latter category. When I play a harem game, I want the MC to develop a relationship with the love interests, and so far, almost all the effort is focused on developing a relationship with girls who aren't LIs and won't be part of the harem; this certainly wears down my patience very quickly when I realize the MC is wasting time on something I couldn't care less about. But the solution is simple: get rid of the stupid rule and make both of them real love interests who are part of the harem (and get rid of one girl's boyfriend and the other's husband, who have no place in the game and only get in the way; their presence only ruins the game, and the more they appear, the worse the game becomes, and there's no way the developer can make their screen time worthwhile).

As I said before, the lack of patience once again!!
Have you ever stopped to think that the developer's idea is something exactly like this: to show how MC thinks since he was young and at some point in the plot realize that his rule is stupid?
It's a fact that he still loves Monica, because if his stupid rule were really taken literally, he wouldn't accept Monica because she had, or in this case still has, another man?
And who's to say that when he realizes how stupid this rule is, he won't realize that he's fallen in love with Azumy?
Tell me you're not the kind of person who starts watching an action movie and if there aren't any gunshots or explosions in 20 minutes, turns off the TV because the movie says it's action and there weren't any gunshots at the beginning?
I believe we should give everything the benefit of the doubt, and as I said in the initial text, if it's not what you expect, fine, don't play it, find another one. But that was my mistake. It's not just a lack of patience that's the biggest problem in the world today. There's another: people seem to need to criticize everything. And they can, but give constructive criticism and move on.

 

[Juerhullycin]

As I said before, the lack of patience once again!!
Have you ever stopped to think that the developer's idea is something exactly like this: to show how MC thinks since he was young and at some point in the plot realize that his rule is stupid?
It's a fact that he still loves Monica, because if his stupid rule were really taken literally, he wouldn't accept Monica because she had, or in this case still has, another man?
And who's to say that when he realizes how stupid this rule is, he won't realize that he's fallen in love with Azumy?
Tell me you're not the kind of person who starts watching an action movie and if there aren't any gunshots or explosions in 20 minutes, turns off the TV because the movie says it's action and there weren't any gunshots at the beginning?
I believe we should give everything the benefit of the doubt, and as I said in the initial text, if it's not what you expect, fine, don't play it, find another one. But that was my mistake. It's not just a lack of patience that's the biggest problem in the world today. There's another: people seem to need to criticize everything. And they can, but give constructive criticism and move on.

You want constructive criticism? Here is constructive criticism: Dev needs to delete the first 3 chapters. Yes, all of it, throw it all away and start from scratch. Either delete Monica's husband from the script or Monica herself, preferably both. MC has daughters of the same age as Azumi. Paying for Azumi to be his personal prostitute is vile, and he belongs on multiple lists for it. Throw all that away, too.
The whole Party thing, trash, delete that also.

What we've got so far is unsalvageable, and no "plot twist" will fix this mess.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

As I said before, the lack of patience once again!!
Have you ever stopped to think that the developer's idea is something exactly like this: to show how MC thinks since he was young and at some point in the plot realize that his rule is stupid?
It's a fact that he still loves Monica, because if his stupid rule were really taken literally, he wouldn't accept Monica because she had, or in this case still has, another man?
And who's to say that when he realizes how stupid this rule is, he won't realize that he's fallen in love with Azumy?
Tell me you're not the kind of person who starts watching an action movie and if there aren't any gunshots or explosions in 20 minutes, turns off the TV because the movie says it's action and there weren't any gunshots at the beginning?
I believe we should give everything the benefit of the doubt, and as I said in the initial text, if it's not what you expect, fine, don't play it, find another one. But that was my mistake. It's not just a lack of patience that's the biggest problem in the world today. There's another: people seem to need to criticize everything. And they can, but give constructive criticism and move on.

Well, the MC has had plenty of time to think about his "golden rule." And he didn't.

Regarding Azumi and the possibility of love, the MC is acting like a jerk, and no amount of patience is going to change that. Nor will any amount of patience change the fact that the MC's proposal (that makes the MC look incredibly bad, to the point that you wonder why, out of all the people in the world, this jerk had to be the protagonist) is to give her money, housing, and other things in exchange for sex, which is basically prostitution. That makes the route unappealing to me, and the fact that love might develop later won't make it any better. That route is trash, regardless of what the developer has planned for Azumi's future, and I don't need to wait to know that. Nor will any twist is going to change the fact that the MC is a jerk.

And if we talk about Monica, we have: 1) she and the MC were in a romantic relationship years ago, 2) she ran away when she was pregnant with the MC's child (without him knowing), 3) after their reunion, it seems they both still love each other (she definitely does, I'm not so sure about the MC), 4) she married a guy so he could support her and the child (all very romantic), 5) she lies to the MC several times about being married, having a child, etc., 6) the MC seems to not care at all, 7) despite this, his "golden rule" prevents him from wanting a romantic relationship with her, 8) she knows this and decides to maintain her non-romantic but marital relationship with her husband, 9) after the husband finds out Monica is cheating, they decide to have an open relationship, but she can only have sex with the MC if the husband has a girl to fuck, 10) the MC agrees to find that girl, 11) the MC and Monica seem very comfortable with this casual relationship. In my opinion, the MC just wants to have sex with Monica, and a romantic relationship is the last thing on his mind. But I don't particularly like Monica. The fact that she left the MC to marry someone else is enough to make me have very little interest in her, and the fact that she never told the MC they had a child together only diminishes my interest further. Personally, I don't need any scenes involving her and the MC having sex, and except for the pointless storyline about having to find a girl for her husband, I'm grateful that at least they aren't in a romantic relationship. In fact, I would have preferred it if the MC had simply told her to go away. And I don't need much patience, because the only change I want is for her to leave, and I suspect that's not going to happen.That doesn't change the fact that it's absolutely stupid that, theoretically, they're in love with each other, yet the MC hasn't even considered throwing his golden rule out the window. Either the MC isn't in love with Monica at all (and his actions reflect that), or he's simply an idiot.

Then there's the party, which serves to introduce us to the boyfriends of two girls (no LIs until proven otherwise) and the potential future boyfriend of what I assume is the only LI in the game. Aside from justifying Azumi's awful and disastrous storyline, I don't see what else we gain from it, except being bored.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

You want constructive criticism? Here is constructive criticism: Dev needs to delete the first 3 chapters. Yes, all of it, throw it all away and start from scratch. Either delete Monica's husband from the script or Monica herself, preferably both. MC has daughters of the same age as Azumi. Paying for Azumi to be his personal prostitute is vile, and he belongs on multiple lists for it. Throw all that away, too.
The whole Party thing, trash, delete that also.

What we've got so far is unsalvageable, and no "plot twist" will fix this mess.

Saving Monica is as simple as slightly altering her backstory: She was in love with the MC, but they weren't in a relationship. For some reason, her parents had to move to a city far away, and she had to go with them. The night before they left, she and the MC had sex, and she became pregnant. You can then justify why she never told the MC about it in various ways; the important thing is that she raised the child alone and only recently managed to contact the MC due to specific circumstances. The first thing she does is tell the MC about their child, and from there you can gradually develop a romantic relationship between them. And furthermore, that argument complies with his absurd rule.