simarimas

Dev FitB Games
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What?
I thought Mary only cheated if Fred cheats, but your saying for Mary to have sex with Ben then Fred can’t cheat? Is that right?
I meant, if you got this outcome, you must also be on the cheating path.
If you are on cheating path, she won't text you to ask what you think about the sexy shoot. Remember, however, Mary is telling you the story of the photoshoot.
 

Kozmo007

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Apr 7, 2022
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anyone please who can solve this, im using joiplay, i'm in previous update is going well enough

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 277, in bootstrap
File "renpy/main.py", line 492, in main
File "renpy/script.py", line 297, in load_script
File "renpy/script.py", line 720, in load_appropriate_file
Exception: Could not load from archive poker0.rpyc.
 

simarimas

Dev FitB Games
Game Developer
Oct 1, 2018
1,523
2,999
anyone please who can solve this, im using joiplay, i'm in previous update is going well enough

Full traceback:
File "renpy/bootstrap.py", line 277, in bootstrap
File "renpy/main.py", line 492, in main
File "renpy/script.py", line 297, in load_script
File "renpy/script.py", line 720, in load_appropriate_file
Exception: Could not load from archive poker0.rpyc.
will look into this, but I think it may be that all the Renpy files are archived. You may need to uncompress them using something like unren for it to work in joiplay. I have never used joiplay, so can't be sure.
 

Beembeem

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Jun 28, 2023
4
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Thank you for this update, once again bravo for this captivating story.
I really appreciate your work, again I tried the different path to see the different possibilities, event if it don't always fit my liking, did it just for science purpose ^^

Compared to the previous episodes I appreciate the couple improving their relationship in this new lifestyle which seem to strengthen and have better communication and connection, but I remain on my hunger for their intimacy scene,
I like their " I love you moments " but I would really appreciate deeper conversation between them,
like the swing event with daniel and susan if you choose to 4some susan, mary tell fred that she would like fred being involved if she do it with multiple guys and I would have liked the same reaction from her if Fred let her have the 3some,
Im also a bit disapointed there is no choices for fred to be in this 3some with mary or (in my dream ) if fred choose to watch she stop the guys to call fred to join it would have been great.
I know it's my point of view and not judging the way you devellop your story, just that I hope the story do not fall into that cuckold story we saw multiples times, I want an involved couples doing and deciding things together.
Anyway you did a great job with the swingers events even if a more reluctant mary would be nice, depend on the path you choose ofc but I really liked it.
The scenes between mary and fred (for me) really not seem to match when they do things on their side,
I would like to have more talking between them during their sex scenes in a more erotic way, the change of personality of Mary sometimes seem too brutal compared to previous episodes, I think it's certainly in the logic of the story progression,
but mary having a lot of unprotected sex seem a bit crazy for her (she's a nurse, really? ^^ ) and she seem to have a few creampie incident on the way, worst for me is the sex scene with tony, he just tell he have sex with multiple girls but it's like she don't care.
I do not always agree with Mary's behavior, like she sometimes have completly switched personnality, or being selfish in all the paths, certainly it's the goal of the couple that Mary is more open and Fred actions influence her behavior but even if Fred is fully loyal and faithfull Mary allows herself to push things, for example with Tony she goes further than the kissing dare with a handjob and even in faithfull path I fell it could maybe have been worse if tony didn't blow his load so quick even if she said she don't want to have sex, and here it's not only about fred but tony is married so it's not fair for blair at all ok she talk about how blair will feel about it but when the action begin it feel like it was bullshit talking > " lets just enjoy ourselves " as mary stated , especialy with tony attitude, mary now he's a cocky asshole full of himself but she don't seem to mind much, in their way back home she seem a lot more frustrated than guilty, especialy about blair, worse being in the cheating path where she is pissed that she did not have fun, poor blair.

The confrontation at the end of episode 4 seem to short for me and I definitly feel it's one sided with fred being the black sheep, Mary almost does not question herself about her actions and what she did, like the gloryhole at beach, ok it was a real mistake and they sorted it out and fred forgive her.

I get the point that with all the paths and situations this was not easy to write and get the outcome about all the events, the following is more about my point of view than judging the way you handled the different paths during the confrontation.

Ofc all the dialogs are based on fred actions about what he did or not but on the cheating path mary did cheat even if she's not sure about fred cheated, she said she suspected it, right now we dont know how she learn about fred infedility. let put Zoe out of the picture I would like to know how she discover what fred did with other girls, the lexi case being discovered during diner she did cheat without knowing about it.
She is as guilty as him and plays the card of the betrayed woman without questioning herself and being pissed. Fred attempt to justify himself sound weak, there is always a reason about cheating and he's pictured to much about the bad guy / bad husband, would like to see him trying to explain his point of view and why he did it.
here he's just confesing about his cheating not the reason, the therapist talk and fred talking with jack reveal a part of his insecurity about him not pleasuring mary in her early year of mariage,
discovering on the way her trauma about her past,
it's a player choice to cheat or not and I don't try to be the devil advocat about fred being a cheater but mary cut short the conversation like she's the good one, again if I find her very selfish here or just to push her to do worse things in the future.

Let say on fred bizness trip, he never cheated on mary but after hearing Zoe telling about jeremy he's involved with kelly and only her since the end of chap4 why he don't explain him better about the situation, thinkiing he's betrayed he did a mistake and he want to come clean about it, mary don't really hear him out and shes just pissed,
don't she realize that her supposed best friend for years trying to destroy her relationship and mariage add the Zoe lies about the photoshoot in chap4 this do not make sense to me or mary is just dumb,
she can be upset about the cheating revelation but can't deny the Zoe behavior is super suspicious, even in the faithfull path when they talk about Zoe they don't confront her because mary is tired, comon mary wake up ^^

The diary being involved in the revelation why fred did not check on it about Jeremy, I don't think there is a mention about the diary in previous episode and why fred wait this long to check on it, jeremy topic being a big part of the confrontation in all path, certainly heating fred inside It sound strange for me that he don't check on it before.
Also why mary hide her diary, even in the hotwife path where they seem both ok with their actions and playing around I don't get why she hide it but I guess we will have an answer in next chapter ;)

There is also something that bother me, in the hotwife path when mary have sex with bryce on the bathroom, fred sound to follow it with the camera but in the cheating path sound like there is no camera in the bathroom and only know about what happen by reading mary diary, sound a bit strange for me unless reading the diary is a better way to describe the situation.
On a personnal note ^^ this scene is exactly the kind of scene I was expecting between mary and fred, sound like you really like the kid, putting him on a pornstar lvl with his stamina for his 1st time and mary being into him it sound he will be part of something bigger next to play the bull role but don't forget fred and don't turn him into a cuck when he can perfectly take charge of mary better than the supposed "inexperienced" kid.
I would like to see her using bryce only as a sex toy or him being just a way to turn her on more for her husband, just giving the boy an handjob and being on the edge for her husband to please her, glad she was still hungry for fred after this.

In the neighbor event , on a faithfull pâth where fred never cheated on mary, if you end up with vicky I had an inconsistency if on 1st choice you choose to not have sex but agree to fuck vicky on second choice, on their way back home mary tell fred shes happy he do not push thing further but in fact he fucked her and a few lines after almost at home she mention the fact he did have sex with vicky.

I also had an inconsistency in chapter 4, during the photoshoot, in a path where Fred is completely loyal and not an asshole, Mary has sex with Shaun.
I even started from the start to be sure that it does not came from an old saves,
when Fred is on the phone with Mary we have 2 choices,
telling her that it goes too far or the sex scene involving Mary and shaun I am sure that Fred is loyal but the mary/shaun scene is indeed there, it unlocked the scene in the gallery but it's different because Mary puts a term to it .
In the Hotwife Path I have Mary who tells the scene but she is not involved, only Zoe and no phone call for choices about the shooting situation.
I have the impression that the scenes are reversed in the 2 path
In the cheating path, at the end of chapter 4 and during mary / fred confrontation fred mention zoe telling him what happen at the shooting but I had no scene / talk with zoe before confrontation.
Again I started a fresh game to avoid an old save problem.

Also in the hotwife path, during the confrontation when fred confess everything he's telling about the rachel cuckolding but I did call her about it and she agree to it (look like it's the same scene as the cheating path)

Must stop here and say sorry for the wall of text, got carried away again but it's your fault guys for giving us a great story to brainstorm with.
Thanks if you read all this and keep up the good work, all this was my personnal feeling and point of view not judging your work and how you devellop it.

Peace&love
 
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Grumpy Old Aussie

Engaged Member
May 6, 2023
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Thank you for this update, once again bravo for this captivating story.
I really appreciate your work, again I tried the different path to see the different possibilities, event if it don't always fit my liking, did it just for science purpose ^^

Compared to the previous episodes I appreciate the couple improving their relationship in this new lifestyle which seem to strengthen and have better communication and connection, but I remain on my hunger for their intimacy scene,
I like their " I love you moments " but I would really appreciate deeper conversation between them,
like the swing event with daniel and susan if you choose to 4some susan, mary tell fred that she would like fred being involved if she do it with multiple guys and I would have liked the same reaction from her if Fred let her have the 3some,
Im also a bit disapointed there is no choices for fred to be in this 3some with mary or (in my dream ) if fred choose to watch she stop the guys to call fred to join it would have been great.
I know it's my point of view and not judging the way you devellop your story, just that I hope the story do not fall into that cuckold story we saw multiples times, I want an involved couples doing and deciding things together.
Anyway you did a great job with the swingers events even if a more reluctant mary would be nice, depend on the path you choose ofc but I really liked it.
The scenes between mary and fred (for me) really not seem to match when they do things on their side,
I would like to have more talking between them during their sex scenes in a more erotic way, the change of personality of Mary sometimes seem too brutal compared to previous episodes, I think it's certainly in the logic of the story progression,
but mary having a lot of unprotected sex seem a bit crazy for her (she's a nurse, really? ^^ ) and she seem to have a few creampie incident on the way, worst for me is the sex scene with tony, he just tell he have sex with multiple girls but it's like she don't care.
I do not always agree with Mary's behavior, like she sometimes have completly switched personnality, or being selfish in all the paths, certainly it's the goal of the couple that Mary is more open and Fred actions influence her behavior but even if Fred is fully loyal and faithfull Mary allows herself to push things, for example with Tony she goes further than the kissing dare with a handjob and even in faithfull path I fell it could maybe have been worse if tony didn't blow his load so quick even if she said she don't want to have sex, and here it's not only about fred but tony is married so it's not fair for blair at all ok she talk about how blair will feel about it but when the action begin it feel like it was bullshit talking > " lets just enjoy ourselves " as mary stated , especialy with tony attitude, mary now he's a cocky asshole full of himself but she don't seem to mind much, in their way back home she seem a lot more frustrated than guilty, especialy about blair, worse being in the cheating path where she is pissed that she did not have fun, poor blair.

The confrontation at the end of episode 4 seem to short for me and I definitly feel it's one sided with fred being the black sheep, Mary almost does not question herself about her actions and what she did, like the gloryhole at beach, ok it was a real mistake and they sorted it out and fred forgive her.

I get the point that with all the paths and situations this was not easy to write and get the outcome about all the events, the following is more about my point of view than judging the way you handled the different paths during the confrontation.

Ofc all the dialogs are based on fred actions about what he did or not but on the cheating path mary did cheat even if she's not sure about fred cheated, she said she suspected it, right now we dont know how she learn about fred infedility. let put Zoe out of the picture I would like to know how she discover what fred did with other girls, the lexi case being discovered during diner she did cheat without knowing about it.
She is as guilty as him and plays the card of the betrayed woman without questioning herself and being pissed. Fred attempt to justify himself sound weak, there is always a reason about cheating and he's pictured to much about the bad guy / bad husband, would like to see him trying to explain his point of view and why he did it.
here he's just confesing about his cheating not the reason, the therapist talk and fred talking with jack reveal a part of his insecurity about him not pleasuring mary in her early year of mariage,
discovering on the way her trauma about her past,
it's a player choice to cheat or not and I don't try to be the devil advocat about fred being a cheater but mary cut short the conversation like she's the good one, again if I find her very selfish here or just to push her to do worse things in the future.

Let say on fred bizness trip, he never cheated on mary but after hearing Zoe telling about jeremy he's involved with kelly and only her since the end of chap4 why he don't explain him better about the situation, thinkiing he's betrayed he did a mistake and he want to come clean about it, mary don't really hear him out and shes just pissed,
don't she realize that her supposed best friend for years trying to destroy her relationship and mariage add the Zoe lies about the photoshoot in chap4 this do not make sense to me or mary is just dumb,
she can be upset about the cheating revelation but can't deny the Zoe behavior is super suspicious, even in the faithfull path when they talk about Zoe they don't confront her because mary is tired, comon mary wake up ^^

The diary being involved in the revelation why fred did not check on it about Jeremy, I don't think there is a mention about the diary in previous episode and why fred wait this long to check on it, jeremy topic being a big part of the confrontation in all path, certainly heating fred inside It sound strange for me that he don't check on it before.
Also why mary hide her diary, even in the hotwife path where they seem both ok with their actions and playing around I don't get why she hide it but I guess we will have an answer in next chapter ;)

There is also something that bother me, in the hotwife path when mary have sex with bryce on the bathroom, fred sound to follow it with the camera but in the cheating path sound like there is no camera in the bathroom and only know about what happen by reading mary diary, sound a bit strange for me unless reading the diary is a better way to describe the situation.
On a personnal note ^^ this scene is exactly the kind of scene I was expecting between mary and fred, sound like you really like the kid, putting him on a pornstar lvl with his stamina for his 1st time and mary being into him it sound he will be part of something bigger next to play the bull role but don't forget fred and don't turn him into a cuck when he can perfectly take charge of mary better than the supposed "inexperienced" kid.
I would like to see her using bryce only as a sex toy or him being just a way to turn her on more for her husband, just giving the boy an handjob and being on the edge for her husband to please her, glad she was still hungry for fred after this.

In the neighbor event , on a faithfull pâth where fred never cheated on mary, if you end up with vicky I had an inconsistency if on 1st choice you choose to not have sex but agree to fuck vicky on second choice, on their way back home mary tell fred shes happy he do not push thing further but in fact he fucked her and a few lines after almost at home she mention the fact he did have sex with vicky.

I also had an inconsistency in chapter 4, during the photoshoot, in a path where Fred is completely loyal and not an asshole, Mary has sex with Shaun.
I even started from the start to be sure that it does not came from an old saves,
when Fred is on the phone with Mary we have 2 choices,
telling her that it goes too far or the sex scene involving Mary and shaun I am sure that Fred is loyal but the mary/shaun scene is indeed there, it unlocked the scene in the gallery but it's different because Mary puts a term to it .
In the Hotwife Path I have Mary who tells the scene but she is not involved, only Zoe and no phone call for choices about the shooting situation.
I have the impression that the scenes are reversed in the 2 path
In the cheating path, at the end of chapter 4 and during mary / fred confrontation fred mention zoe telling him what happen at the shooting but I had no scene / talk with zoe before confrontation.
Again I started a fresh game to avoid an old save problem.

Also in the hotwife path, during the confrontation when fred confess everything he's telling about the rachel cuckolding but I did call her about it and she agree to it (look like it's the same scene as the cheating path)

Must stop here and say sorry for the wall of text, got carried away again but it's your fault guys for giving us a great story to brainstorm with.
Thanks if you read all this and keep up the good work, all this was my personnal feeling and point of view not judging your work and how you devellop it.

Peace&love
I enjoyed your post, we have many similar views. There are a lot of issues with Mary. You are not the only one who has brought it up. The Devs are active on this page and will hopefully provide you with some answers when they get a chance.
 
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Beembeem

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Thank you, glad you enjoyed my post and sharing some point of view on things, mostly coming form life experience for me and knowing that a good communication is a master key to an healthy relationship and friendship.

With all the different path for mary issues I understand that it's not easy to write a coherent char, fitting in all the paths.
I just hope ALWL don't fall in the hotwife cliché, slut mode we often see in VN's with the wife sleeping around with every guys, for me a teasing/hexib hotwife without pushing thing to sex is sometimes way more entertaining and erotic.

I know the devs are really active and thanks to them for this but I don't want to bother them to much here on forum when they are busy on next update ;D
 
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DIRTY FILTHY Animal

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Thank you, glad you enjoyed my post and sharing some point of view on things, mostly coming form life experience for me and knowing that a good communication is a master key to an healthy relationship and friendship.

With all the different path for mary issues I understand that it's not easy to write a coherent char, fitting in all the paths.
I just hope ALWL don't fall in the hotwife cliché, slut mode we often see in VN's with the wife sleeping around with every guys, for me a teasing/hexib hotwife without pushing thing to sex is sometimes way more entertaining and erotic.

I know the devs are really active and thanks to them for this but I don't want to bother them to much here on forum when they are busy on next update ;D
well there are alot of choices to please anyone, if you want a faithful husband you can play that, if you want to cheat, you can do that as well, if you want fred to be a cuck, thats also in the game. as long as we all have choices to play the paths we want it will be a great game.
 

Joshy92

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Wait the mc can be a cuck?
Will Mary cheat on you if you are on the cuck path
And the mc doesn't cheat on her?

I really like cuckolding but not when combined with cheating stuff
 

blkcrow820

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well there are alot of choices to please anyone, if you want a faithful husband you can play that, if you want to cheat, you can do that as well, if you want fred to be a cuck, thats also in the game. as long as we all have choices to play the paths we want it will be a great game.
That's what I like about this game. I'm normally a 'love' route person but I play this for the sharing/hotwife route. It's hard to find many games that do it right for me.
 

Joshy92

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I don't like to use the term slut because it's so broad
I mean some people would call a woman who has sex with twenty guys in a day a slut
But I would just call her someone who likes sex

But even if Mary is a slut
As long as she is not a cheating slut
Then I don't see the harm in her having some fun
 

ThunderStruck

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I also had an inconsistency in chapter 4, during the photoshoot, in a path where Fred is completely loyal and not an asshole, Mary has sex with Shaun.
I even started from the start to be sure that it does not came from an old saves,
when Fred is on the phone with Mary we have 2 choices,
telling her that it goes too far or the sex scene involving Mary and shaun I am sure that Fred is loyal but the mary/shaun scene is indeed there, it unlocked the scene in the gallery but it's different because Mary puts a term to it .
This has also bugged me so I replayed the game couple of times. If Fred doesn't cheat and you don't choose hotwife path (just swinging) during the scene where Fred/Mary go out with David/Miriam then they meet two other guys you can choose to end the night or continue in hotel room and have an orgy. If you choose to end the night Mary will only simulate sex with Shaun. Choosing to have an orgy with David/Miriam will somehow trigger hotwife path and Mary will have sex with Shaun. I don't know if this was intended by the Devs or just a small bug.
 

Ricky Smith

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So I play 4 long chapters, just to have Mary get mad at me, when I have been up front about everybody except the ones they wont let you, like Zoe. I knew she was going to be trouble from the start. I told Mary about the humiliated cuckold guy and his wife and the girl with broken leg from the gym, but when my MC confessed everything to Mary it still put the cuckold one on there even though I had already told her. Then it ends on a cliffhanger. If it was me I would go into the house and confront those two ppl right there and then. But I guess we will have to wait for CH 5. Kind of frustrating.
 
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