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Thank you for this update, once again bravo for this captivating story.
I really appreciate your work, again I tried the different path to see the different possibilities, event if it don't always fit my liking, did it just for science purpose ^^

Compared to the previous episodes I appreciate the couple improving their relationship in this new lifestyle which seem to strengthen and have better communication and connection, but I remain on my hunger for their intimacy scene,
I like their " I love you moments " but I would really appreciate deeper conversation between them,
Glad you liked the update. Thanks for the feedback on the communication part. We'll work on it...

ke the swing event with daniel and susan if you choose to 4some susan, mary tell fred that she would like fred being involved if she do it with multiple guys and I would have liked the same reaction from her if Fred let her have the 3some,
Im also a bit disapointed there is no choices for fred to be in this 3some with mary or (in my dream ) if fred choose to watch she stop the guys to call fred to join it would have been great.
I know it's my point of view and not judging the way you devellop your story, just that I hope the story do not fall into that cuckold story we saw multiples times, I want an involved couples doing and deciding things together.
Anyway you did a great job with the swingers events even if a more reluctant mary would be nice, depend on the path you choose ofc but I really liked it.
Mary & Fred will be involved in a threesome in the next update. We had a scene written for that but decided to move it to the next chapter as it fits better there. It's difficult at times to maintain multiple branches per the choices made. Though we have 3 paths, the dialogues depend on not just the path you are in but also on the choices made previously hence each of them gives a different outcome. Hence the character reacts differently even if the path is same.

but mary having a lot of unprotected sex seem a bit crazy for her (she's a nurse, really? ^^ ) and she seem to have a few creampie incident on the way, worst for me is the sex scene with tony, he just tell he have sex with multiple girls but it's like she don't care.
Technically, most of the sex scenes where Mary is involved with other men are safe, Swingers club - Medicals are important before membership confirmation, Bryce - a virgin. Other scenes in cheat path- Not yet verified if they are true, only read in diary. Hotel scene with David and Miriam, she did ask the guy to wear a condom. Even if she had an 'accidental' creampie, she made sure to take a day-after pill (in the case of Swingers scene). We are leaving as much easter egg in the game for people to figure out.

do not always agree with Mary's behavior, like she sometimes have completly switched personnality, or being selfish in all the paths, certainly it's the goal of the couple that Mary is more open and Fred actions influence her behavior but even if Fred is fully loyal and faithfull Mary allows herself to push things, for example with Tony she goes further than the kissing dare with a handjob and even in faithfull path I fell it could maybe have been worse if tony didn't blow his load so quick even if she said she don't want to have sex, and here it's not only about fred but tony is married so it's not fair for blair at all ok she talk about how blair will feel about it but when the action begin it feel like it was bullshit talking > " lets just enjoy ourselves " as mary stated , especialy with tony attitude, mary now he's a cocky asshole full of himself but she don't seem to mind much, in their way back home she seem a lot more frustrated than guilty, especialy about blair, worse being in the cheating path where she is pissed that she did not have fun, poor blair.
Benefits of being on goodwife path, Mary won't have sex with Tony. Again, she did have sex with other men in the swingers club even in good wife path however when Fred is not around she won't have sex in his absence or knowledge.

The confrontation at the end of episode 4 seem to short for me and I definitly feel it's one sided with fred being the black sheep, Mary almost does not question herself about her actions and what she did, like the gloryhole at beach, ok it was a real mistake and they sorted it out and fred forgive her.

I get the point that with all the paths and situations this was not easy to write and get the outcome about all the events, the following is more about my point of view than judging the way you handled the different paths during the confrontation.
Fred IS the black sheep, as you worded it. Because it is Fred's action that led to her doing it. Why would she feel bad or guilty when the sole purpose of her doing it was to get back at Fred for what he did?

Ofc all the dialogs are based on fred actions about what he did or not but on the cheating path mary did cheat even if she's not sure about fred cheated, she said she suspected it, right now we dont know how she learn about fred infedility. let put Zoe out of the picture I would like to know how she discover what fred did with other girls, the lexi case being discovered during diner she did cheat without knowing about it.
She is as guilty as him and plays the card of the betrayed woman without questioning herself and being pissed. Fred attempt to justify himself sound weak, there is always a reason about cheating and he's pictured to much about the bad guy / bad husband, would like to see him trying to explain his point of view and why he did it.
here he's just confesing about his cheating not the reason, the therapist talk and fred talking with jack reveal a part of his insecurity about him not pleasuring mary in her early year of mariage,
discovering on the way her trauma about her past,
it's a player choice to cheat or not and I don't try to be the devil advocat about fred being a cheater but mary cut short the conversation like she's the good one, again if I find her very selfish here or just to push her to do worse things in the future.
Mary not just suspects, but she knows Fred is fucking around. Zoe & Fred in the pool, she woke up from sleep and saw them fucking, Fred visiting Zoe's bedroom for sex in C1, while Mary is sleeping in the other room. Fred took a very long time with Jazz at the hospital for sperm test and the way he reacted when she questioned him. Fred being an absolute asshole at times will also determine how she reacts to a situation like these.

Let say on fred bizness trip, he never cheated on mary but after hearing Zoe telling about jeremy he's involved with kelly and only her since the end of chap4 why he don't explain him better about the situation, thinkiing he's betrayed he did a mistake and he want to come clean about it, mary don't really hear him out and shes just pissed,
don't she realize that her supposed best friend for years trying to destroy her relationship and mariage add the Zoe lies about the photoshoot in chap4 this do not make sense to me or mary is just dumb,
she can be upset about the cheating revelation but can't deny the Zoe behavior is super suspicious, even in the faithfull path when they talk about Zoe they don't confront her because mary is tired, comon mary wake up ^^
Zoe's behavior, we haven't shown how Fred & Mary react to Zoe's lies. We have ended the chapter right there. So what Fred & Mary will do about Zoe situation is a prime question that will be answered in the next chapter.

The diary being involved in the revelation why fred did not check on it about Jeremy, I don't think there is a mention about the diary in previous episode and why fred wait this long to check on it, jeremy topic being a big part of the confrontation in all path, certainly heating fred inside It sound strange for me that he don't check on it before.
Also why mary hide her diary, even in the hotwife path where they seem both ok with their actions and playing around I don't get why she hide it but I guess we will have an answer in next chapter ;)
If on Cheat path, Fred has been reading the diary and getting to know what Mary has been doing. In Hotwife, she tells him most of it herself. It's now confirmed that Zoe lied about Jeremy which Mary was unaware. If you are on cheat path, then only the diary comes into picture.

In the neighbor event , on a faithfull pâth where fred never cheated on mary, if you end up with vicky I had an inconsistency if on 1st choice you choose to not have sex but agree to fuck vicky on second choice, on their way back home mary tell fred shes happy he do not push thing further but in fact he fucked her and a few lines after almost at home she mention the fact he did have sex with vicky.
I checked the coding for this scene. Looks ok to me. Mary says she's happy he didn't push things further with Vicki only if he didn't have sex with her. Maybe something went wrong from your side due to multiple playthroughs or loading incorrect saves? I'm just guessing, can't say for sure.

I also had an inconsistency in chapter 4, during the photoshoot, in a path where Fred is completely loyal and not an asshole, Mary has sex with Shaun.
I even started from the start to be sure that it does not came from an old saves,
when Fred is on the phone with Mary we have 2 choices,
telling her that it goes too far or the sex scene involving Mary and shaun I am sure that Fred is loyal but the mary/shaun scene is indeed there, it unlocked the scene in the gallery but it's different because Mary puts a term to it .
In the Hotwife Path I have Mary who tells the scene but she is not involved, only Zoe and no phone call for choices about the shooting situation.
That scene plays out in 3 ways:
1. Cheating- No phone message and no choice and possible sex scene.
2. Hotwife - Phone message with choice, if Fred says yes, she'll fuck Shaun. If Fred says no, she won't continue further.
3. Goodwife - Phone message with choice, if Fred says yes, she'll so softporn. If Fred says no, she won't do anything. It's only Zoe who will that shoot.

I have the impression that the scenes are reversed in the 2 path
In the cheating path, at the end of chapter 4 and during mary / fred confrontation fred mention zoe telling him what happen at the shooting but I had no scene / talk with zoe before confrontation.
Again I started a fresh game to avoid an old save problem.

Also in the hotwife path, during the confrontation when fred confess everything he's telling about the rachel cuckolding but I did call her about it and she agree to it (look like it's the same scene as the cheating path)
Zoephotoshoot not showing up before the confrontation, I have to take a look at it. Rachel cuckold scene it's the same for both paths however how the choices turn out is path-specific.

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I hope I answered your questions, doubts. That's one hell of a post to read and respond hahahhaha.
 

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This has also bugged me so I replayed the game couple of times. If Fred doesn't cheat and you don't choose hotwife path (just swinging) during the scene where Fred/Mary go out with David/Miriam then they meet two other guys you can choose to end the night or continue in hotel room and have an orgy. If you choose to end the night Mary will only simulate sex with Shaun. Choosing to have an orgy with David/Miriam will somehow trigger hotwife path and Mary will have sex with Shaun. I don't know if this was intended by the Devs or just a small bug.
David/Miriam scene is not the trigger to Shaun photoshoot sex scene. But the previous choices and path you are in are. Those scenes are not connected in any way.
 
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David/Miriam scene is not the trigger to Shaun photoshoot sex scene. But the previous choices and path you are in are. Those scenes are not connected in any way.
Than I realy can't figure it out what triggers Mary to have sex with Shaun. I have uploaded a save so if it isn't too much trouble for you to check what choices did I made to trigger this. In this save Fred did not cheat and Mary is not a hotwife, all they did was swinging.
 

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Than I realy can't figure it out what triggers Mary to have sex with Shaun. I have uploaded a save so if it isn't too much trouble for you to check what choices did I made to trigger this. In this save Fred did not cheat and Mary is not a hotwife, all they did was swinging.
I'm not able to load this saved file. I'm putting the scene triggers below:

That scene plays out in 3 ways:
1. Cheating- No phone message and no choice and possible sex scene.
2. Hotwife - Phone message with choice, if Fred says yes, she'll fuck Shaun. If Fred says no, she won't continue further.
3. Goodwife - Phone message with choice, if Fred says yes, she'll do softporn. If Fred says no, she won't do anything. It's only Zoe who will do that shoot.
 
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I'm not able to load this saved file. I'm putting the scene triggers below:

That scene plays out in 3 ways:
1. Cheating- No phone message and no choice and possible sex scene.
2. Hotwife - Phone message with choice, if Fred says yes, she'll fuck Shaun. If Fred says no, she won't continue further.
3. Goodwife - Phone message with choice, if Fred says yes, she'll do softporn. If Fred says no, she won't do anything. It's only Zoe who will do that shoot.
Ok thanks. It's a save file from android version (I forgot to mention it) that's probably the reason you can't load it.
 

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This has also bugged me so I replayed the game couple of times. If Fred doesn't cheat and you don't choose hotwife path (just swinging) during the scene where Fred/Mary go out with David/Miriam then they meet two other guys you can choose to end the night or continue in hotel room and have an orgy. If you choose to end the night Mary will only simulate sex with Shaun. Choosing to have an orgy with David/Miriam will somehow trigger hotwife path and Mary will have sex with Shaun. I don't know if this was intended by the Devs or just a small bug.
This was intended. We left a way for you to open the hotwife path if you had not done so before, by going with the guys up to the hotel room. If you do not, and say no, then you remain on the non hotwife path.

So this would trigger sex with Shaun.
 
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I just finished the update
And I fucking loved it
I got some answers I was looking for
And I got some new questions

I kinda feel bad for Zoe tho
I have a feeling she is in trouble
I will help her however I can
 

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Wife 1
:love::love::love:


Wife 2
:sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick::sick:


Wife 3
:love::love:
Heh I can be a little more sympathetic to 3 than 2. The dress style in 3 just looks out of place to me - I know it's a common style in sex games, but in the real world it looks like something worn at a [slutty] coronation?

Doesnt help my bias that I vastly prefer the #1 hairstyle. 2 looks like a wig and 3 looks like a cougar barfly.
 

simarimas

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Heh I can be a little more sympathetic to 3 than 2. The dress style in 3 just looks out of place to me - I know it's a common style in sex games, but in the real world it looks like something worn at a [slutty] coronation?

Doesnt help my bias that I vastly prefer the #1 hairstyle. 2 looks like a wig and 3 looks like a cougar barfly.
Then I did my job well. 2 was supposed to look kind of like a woman trying her best to be look younger than she was, and failing miserably. 3 was supposed to look like the cougar who was hungry for a younger guy. Really wanted to know what people preferred in an older woman.
 
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