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Thanks! Really people respond!
I can't promise anything about replacing the card right now. I need to think about what it would look like from a programming point of view.
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I can't promise anything about replacing the card right now. I need to think about what it would look like from a programming point of view.
Go for it, just PM it to me or you could add my Discord
"As soon as I reach 50 patrons, I will understand that this project may be interesting to people, it is worth continuing, and I will make a schedule for regular updates."
You're asking for $5 a month for a small first version of a game of beginner level quality and grammatically unsound English, while also saying that unless you get 50 patrons you won't be updating the game, possibly at all, but definitely with no regularity nor any scheduled commitment to your patrons.
That basically means you're asking for $250 a month for a demo of a first time game that you have released for free, and then after receiving the money you'll tell the people who paid you what they paid for.
Releasing stuff for free is great, learning new skills is commendable, being open to criticism is awesome, but asking to be paid by 50 people without even telling them what they are paying for is a scam. Your goal will never be reached the way you have set it and anyone who gives you money are therefore guaranteed to get burned.
I hope you improve your skills, and if this is something you want to do then do it, but until you rewrite your patreon and make a commitment to people who give you money I don't hold out any hope.
Ps. Unless the protagonist, or another character, is named "You" then you need to stop capitalizing that word, particularly when said capitalization appears totally random.
You're asking for $5 a month for a small first version of a game of beginner level quality and grammatically unsound English, while also saying that unless you get 50 patrons you won't be updating the game, possibly at all, but definitely with no regularity nor any scheduled commitment to your patrons.
That basically means you're asking for $250 a month for a demo of a first time game that you have released for free, and then after receiving the money you'll tell the people who paid you what they paid for.
Releasing stuff for free is great, learning new skills is commendable, being open to criticism is awesome, but asking to be paid by 50 people without even telling them what they are paying for is a scam. Your goal will never be reached the way you have set it and anyone who gives you money are therefore guaranteed to get burned.
I hope you improve your skills, and if this is something you want to do then do it, but until you rewrite your patreon and make a commitment to people who give you money I don't hold out any hope.
Ps. Unless the protagonist, or another character, is named "You" then you need to stop capitalizing that word, particularly when said capitalization appears totally random.
The screen shots seem like pretty odd choices to draw players to your game, particularly the first and fourth. They should be something that makes potential players want to play, none of the shots chosen draw me in. This is not to say that you need nudes or anything like that, but someone under blankets in a dark room (I think?) and a store counter with no people around?
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Let me disagree with you! I don't demand anything. The game is free at the moment! Even with Patreon, you can download It without being a subscriber. The minimum subscription is $ 1! If the game will live, I will make additional options for other Tir. Shooting ranges above will get an update earlier. This is the ubiquitous practice of Patron! And people are signing up to support the development of new add-ons! As for 50 subscribers, I didn't want to add them at all. But the Patron himself insisted on adding a goal. I thought that less than 50 people = 50$ is still not worth betting. This does not mean that I will not develop a sequel until there are 50 subscribers. I just said that in this case I will act more seriously and on schedule. This is just a goal even more for me than for subscribers! At the moment, it's just a hobby for me. And this is some kind of motivation.
The translation has already been corrected. If there are not 50 people on the whole earth within a couple of months who are willing to give 1 dollar for development, I believe this is an indicator of the neediness of my work. The project is not interesting.
Patron is not a way of earning a living for me. I am not a slave. I have a regular good job. What I do is creative! At least for me. Donations are voluntary. But the game can't live without them.
In turn, I will try to improve the game, and make at least monthly updates. In any case my experience is growing every day.
Objects for DAZ are also not free. Good music also costs money. Not to mention how long the video card will last in constant load rendering mode.
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It's true. Screenshots are unsuccessful. I don't know if I can post screenshots of completely naked people here.
Look around at some of the other game threads. If posting naked people is against the rules, we have a whole lot of rule breakers here.
I'm out. I hate Sandbox games. Please add it to that tags.
Sandbox only means Grinding and searching for content.
non-linear and consequences don't work well together. If you can do things in different order then how do the consequences apply? I'm played too many sandbox games (With walkthrough mods) to know that the scenes/characters get really disconnected because they have to be due to the 'non-linear' story.
My suggestion is make a visual novel with choices that have consequences resulting in different options in the future.
Then why does the 5 dollar tier have game updates as a reward?
It isn't actually. Most patreon campaigns, at least the ones that last and are from more legitimate devs, promise rewards and updates regardless of whether or not a set amount of people donate. The update schedule is communicated clearly, even if it isn't regular, most patreon campaigns communicate at least estimated release dates so people know what to expect.
You have done none of those things, and are even repeatedly threatened not to develop updates, even for patrons that pay you, if not enough people pay you. You're asking for money without offering even the slightest idea or commitment to produce any product in return, let alone in a reasonable time frame.
You still chose to make that your goal, and are sticking to it when it is being criticized, so don't blame patreon for your choice, that's a cop out. People who don't want to set a goal can make it a joke goal instead.
And, you actually havent promised any future updates anywhere. Even your revised patreon goal says that if it isn't met the project isn't worth continuing:
"As soon as I reach 50 patrons, I will understand that this project may be interesting to people, it is worth continuing, and I will make a schedule for regular updates."
What that says is that until you get 50 patrons it isn't worth continuing your project.
Then why are you charging a subscription fee? People generally don't expect to get paid for their hobbies. Most people pay money to pursue their hobbies. If this isn't something that you are doing seriously then don't set up a campaign with multiple tiers, promised rewards, etc. Set it up like a tip jar, like akabur does with his patreon.
Thing is, you're not asking for $1. You're asking for $1 a month. Or $5 a month for game updates, according to your own patreon. If you don't get to 50 patrons, some people could be donating for multiple months without receiving anything from you. As an example, if someone signed up to your $5 tier right now and you don't reach your goal in the next 4 months, then they will have paid $20 for a free demo. That is a scammy.
Why can't it? If this is a hobby that you enjoy, why do you need to be paid to do it? If you have a stable income and patreon isn't about supplementing it, then why will the game die without money?
Again, people pay fees to join hobby sports teams. People pay money to buy games or computers or consoles so they can enjoy their hobby. If you aren't committed to this, then don't ask for money. I play computer games because I enjoy them. I'm not going to threaten not to play games with my friends if they don't pay me. That would be crazy, and that is essentially what you are doing.
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not a bad start for a demo .. render in the living room while drinking wine was really dark ,, other than that not bad
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I don't quite understand what I did wrong. I designed the page similarly to other projects. With the minimum cost of subscriptions. But you seem to be a more experienced Patreon user. And since others didn't comment on this issue, I changed the page description.
I didn't threaten not to develop the update. It is not true. I posted the game for free access and received an insult, called a scammer. I don't think that's fair.
You should understand that the more subscriptions, the better the game will be. I will be able to buy the necessary things for the game without lowering my family budget.
I plan to make monthly updates in the future. I can't really assess my strength yet. Lack of experience. But I will strive for it. I take my promises seriously. And I need to understand that in the future there will be exact dates when I will understand how much I create and for how long. As practice shows, life is unpredictable. On Patreon, people can unsubscribe if they don't see any activity at any time!
Prompt me. I don't quite understand what Patron means by "Benefits not tracked". I chose the General Support. Is this correct?
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Thanks! It's motivating!not a bad start for a demo .. render in the living room while drinking wine was really dark ,, other than that not bad
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Patron's rules prohibit the topic of incest. It's not in the game right now. Well, if the patrons will want to see it, I will consider the possibility of patches.
Here... translation and revision of the game in portuguese, any probleme only call me.
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Wasn't that bad I feel like it's a game I could get into with more updates but so far it looks interesting I thought the worst when I saw it go to sandbox but it's pretty easy to get around. And it looks like we've already got a problem with this Eric