There is only so far version 0.1 on Android. Ports are made on the Russian-language tracker. I don't make them. I think he'll be there in a couple of days. Perhaps you should wait. To immediately download version 0.2 for Android.
What link did you use to download that you were having problems?Is anybody else having trouble unzipping the new update?
Mega and Google Drive both downloaded successfully, but attempting to unzip the file resulted in an error message. I didn't take note of the exact error though...
The entire point was that what was written in his patreon was not what he was expressing here. Words have meaning, I broke down the grammar within the patreon to prove my argument about what the patreon said. You shouldn't have to 'assume' that you will be getting more from a tier than what is written. What is written should be what you get, and what is written should be clear. There shouldn't be multiple mutually exclusive conflicts with what is being sold in different tiers for instance. If you really believe that it is ok to ask for money without being remotely clear about what the rewards are, then you are being disingenuous.
If I was making a game, and after say a year, no one wanted to play it (or in this case pay $1 to play it) then yes 'd seriously consider scrapping it and making something else.The entire point was that what was written in his patreon was not what he was expressing here. Words have meaning, I broke down the grammar within the patreon to prove my argument about what the patreon said. You shouldn't have to 'assume' that you will be getting more from a tier than what is written. What is written should be what you get, and what is written should be clear. There shouldn't be multiple mutually exclusive conflicts with what is being sold in different tiers for instance. If you really believe that it is ok to ask for money without being remotely clear about what the rewards are, then you are being disingenuous.
I was literally trying to get him to just fix his patreon for his benefit, and the benefit of his patrons, I never mentioned him changing his product, just how he monetized it. And look, he reworked his patreon and it is clearer now, better value, and much more likely to attract patrons for him than it was in it's previous state. I'd still say that having the $1 tier get an "update on day of release" and the second tier getting it "5 days earlier than the day of release" is deceptive wording, but hey, improvement is improvement. I'd also say that there has been one update since I made my comment in June, and yet he is charging monthly and has no release schedule which vindicates my initial skepticism. But at least he is communicating to his patrons... Oh but it is in locked updates so people have to pay to know when they will get the game that they paid for.
Again, as I said previously, good on the dev for making stuff, I wish him the best of luck, and I'm pretty sure my critique has made his product more salable; I just want to be a voice here that cares for customers as well.
Have a good day
Oh, I also forgot to point out that the dev said he is doing it as a hobby, doing it because he enjoyed it, you don't generally stop doing things you enjoy in your free time if you don't get payed for it. Would you stop playing games on this site if people didn't pay you? Are people paying you? Where can I get payed for playing porn games? Why you holding out on us?
I just downloaded from MEGA and unpack. Everything is successful. Judging by other comments, there are no problems. Maybe you should try using a different archiver. I tried WinRAR and 7-Zip. Both work well.
Yes, there will be blackmail. Optional. The player decides whether the main character will always be a good guy or will use blackmail.
Most conversations with everyone and minigames are not strictly required. Conversations help reveal the characters. To go to the city map after work: at the end of the working day, go to the exit door and click on it. I understand the problem, as soon as there is more content in the new updates I will make a log in the game.
I am glad that the game aroused interest!
You ignored most of my points, re. lack of clarity in patreon, intentionally deceptive language, making assumptions about rewards, locking release date information behind a paywall, and me not asking him to change his product. Pretty lame my dude, given those were your intial criticisms of me. But I'll just take your pivoting off those points as an admission that you were wrong on them. Which is fine, I'm glad you support customer advocacy now
Nah, I'm just way less invested in this argument than you are. It was less the point you were trying to make and more your attitude about it that I had issue with, and even still; they weren't intentionally deceptive, they used an online translator, that always means that nuance and clarity will be an issue.You ignored most of my points, re. lack of clarity in patreon, intentionally deceptive language, making assumptions about rewards, locking release date information behind a paywall, and me not asking him to change his product. Pretty lame my dude, given those were your intial criticisms of me. But I'll just take your pivoting off those points as an admission that you were wrong on them. Which is fine, I'm glad you support customer advocacy now
On your other two points, he is charging people monthly for a product, he has a duty to provide an adequate product for people who have paid for it. Arguing with "after a year" is a strawman, when his initial patreon, which was up when he released his very first demo, threatened to dump the game - without any suggestion of when he would dump the game mind you. If after a year, and after consulting any patrons a dev decides to change projects, that would be fine. That isn't what is happening here and I think you know that.
On your second point, nowhere on the patreon does it say that he is doing this as a hobby. Which again, was my initial point - that you criticized. If you charge monthly for updates, and then don't communicate anywhere that updates won't be monthly, a customer should assume monthly updates. If there were a lootcrate-esque subscription that charged monthly, said nothing about an alternate shipment schedule on it's site, and then only sent you a crate once every three months, I think you be upset right? I think feeling deceived would be reasonable.
Also, customers on his pateron shouldn't be expected to find this forum and read through multiple pages of often conflicting or irrelevant information and then try to guess what the product they are paying for is going to be. That is crazy.
And lastly, you don't get paid for hobbies. If you start asking to be paid you are acting in a professional capacity and have a duty to provide commensurate value to the people paying you. That was again, a major point of my criticism. There are many amateur/spare time devs on this site, they make it clear on their patreon what people should expect from them. They act professionally. This dev doesn't. Hence my criticism. I appreciate the work of those other devs. I appreciate honesty and clarity. Don't you? Would you prefer that they all reduce their patreons to this level of deception so that they can try to trick their patrons into "assuming" they would get more than what was listed, like you did? I wouldn't, but you have a right to your opinion in this instance I guess.
Tigerdiamond thank you for seeing everything as it is. I didn't want to continue this discussion. Vengefulspirit insulted me by calling me a fraud. But I understand that I have to speak out, it's just not ethical to observe. Although I'm sure my words will be misinterpreted again.
Unfortunately, I don't know him. Are long descriptions a minus or a plus for you?
