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VN Ren'Py A mod for ProjectSAGE

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Gunsothegreat

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The entire game felt like someone made a list of shit they want to put in the game and stuck it together.
I'm sure it started out that way, if you look at the older version of the game, that is definitely what's going on there. But story-wise there is a lot of improvement between the old and the new. It does look like after a while paperwork realized he also wanted to tell a story. Sure it's not going to make any bestseller lists, but then again, writing is hard and takes a long time to get good at.
 
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And considering some of the utter trash that sometimes gets popular, the fact that some guy who got inspired to write by doing a porn story should be something to celebrate. If it doesn't meet your standards, then that's fine, everybody's limited by their own skills, there's no getting around that. But the more we do something, the better we get at it.
 

Gunsothegreat

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You can find thousands of better source about girls finding themselves in another country to get ideas from. Go check out a used book store, library, web search ... free online pdf books.
Why are you so concerned with how I choose to spend my time? I don't think anyone here is claiming that paperwork is some literary genius, I know there are better stories out there. If you don't like what I'm doing, just ignore it.
 

baka

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I dont agree. I think (the 2nd of course) game is close to perfection for a vn-erotic game.
never played such good game and one reason is the choices and all the branches.

writing was also good. because it was "erotic" and that part is very hard to find.
a lot of games are visually good, tons of story but lack of eroticism.
a game that came close is "our fate - a new family" because the writer did made me feel "Im in charge, his thought, how he wanted to corrupt her, how he took his time to do it" (if u pick the corruption route like I did :D)

so, sure HS is not the best visually, but what PW did with it, its simply amazing.

to explain: eroticism is not just sex, its the emotions u get from it. sexiness, finesse, the art of teasing, to make u aroused etc. its the play before the sex that is very important. "slow corruption" is all about that. not that "u need to click 20" times and the girl with suck your cock. no, its the expectations and the feelings.
in PS theres tons of that.
 
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Gunsothegreat

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A lot of people overlook that writing a visual novel where you let the player make some meaningful choices is a lot harder to write than a normal linear story. You are actually writing multiple stories and you have to make sure everything fit together, this can quickly become very complex.
 

atlas114

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all good points- not much to add until Day 1 is ready for us to dive into. have a great weekend guys! maybe we’ll be pleasantly surprised sunday :D
 
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I was on twitter and I saw a pic (u know those click-bait ads) and I did a tineye to get a better source.
and I thought of Amy. when she go to the beach and the old dudes looking at her, with that sad face thinking, I will never tap that.

olddude.jpg
 

trektant

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...Am I witnessing the reason behind the prevalence of ugly bastard hentai?
I personally don't appreciate the contrast :p.
 

Gunsothegreat

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I thought I'd run something past you guys while the next image renders. I'm considering lowering Amys inhibitions when she is aroused or very aroused, as well as when she is drunk or smoking pot, there will be drunk, very drunk, and shitfaced drunk, all lower inhibitions, very drunk, and drunk will impair judgment and Amy gets to make some really stupid moves. Although not important on the first day, I'm thinking if she does not masturbate she will wake up still horny and with lowered inhibitions but the bonus you get when she masturbates as she fantasies about the day's events she reinforces granting her a 50% bonus in gains such as exhibitionism. What do you think? acceptable?
 

atlas114

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that seems realistic and reasonable. shitfaced drunk could mean just passing out with none of the fun stuff happening, just waking up in the morning wondering what happened- though in her passed out state there’s certainly opportunity to fondle her if the pervs were so inclined.
 

atlas114

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definitely agree that if her state of arousal is high enough (not masturbating) it means she’d be more compelled to do riskier things such as public nudity when the very thought it of it was unthinkable a day ago
 

Gunsothegreat

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I also feel it makes the masturbation scenes a game mechanic as well as eye candy. I think paperwork reset arousal each day, if that is the case I would change that to lowering it somewhat when she sleeps, but leave it at maybe 75% or something like that.
 
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baka

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not sure.
it was hard to play with that "bar" I never knew when it was "enough" or not.
and in PS it was hard to manage, sometimes it was low sometimes high or in the middle.

as for me, I don't like it, I want Amy to be corrupted when shes all wake up.
but if u want to have it, I want it to be simple and easy to read, something like this:
aroused [##|##|##|##|##] so 10 points, each 2 lower her inhibition -5%
intoxicated [##|##|##|##|##] each 2 lower her inhibition -5%
inhibition: 85(100) *-15%)

another thing,
when we get a choice, say, she is with a "dude" and he try to kiss her, we get

- go away
- slap him
- kiss back

and to kiss him back u need inhibition 75 points
I would like

- kiss back (need <75 inhibition)

so we know why we can't.
and if u enable "cheat" (could have a setting in menu)
u can still click that option even if its greyed and u don't have enough points.
 

Gunsothegreat

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No, I think you misunderstood, lust drunk and high all modify the sexual skills, like exhibition, let's say your exhibition is 5 points, when your arousal is high you get extra points due to Amy being willing to step a little out of her comfort zone, same with drunk and high, it just modifies the skills that are used to tell what she's willing to do. arousal is still capped at 100, and arousal needs to be above some minimum value for may to be willing to do that thing even if she has the score to do it. The only thing this really does is give Amy more opportunities to do things out of her comfort zone. this has a bigger effect in the beginning when her scores are low, as her scores improve these modifiers make less and less difference.
 

baka

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yeah. its a science on its own. how to create a good system.
that control her different values in a "make sense" way.
like if she never touched a cock, even if intoxicated theres a block that will tell her to escape.
but if she already have experience, her brain will tell her, I have already touched one, I know how it feels, so the intoxication will make her do it because of past experience and "I don't understand the consequences" if I touch this old dudes cock (that in normal state she would never do)
also, is the male "friendly" in her mind. maybe she feel comfortable with him, or if that dude made her feel "bad" in a previous scene, that is also important, in a intoxicated state, also anger will increase, like, he old dude touches her ass
the response is:
- what around you doing? slap his face
- scream and kick his balls (intoxicated state) *only apply if dude has a bad experience with
- let him touch you (intoxicated state) *only apply if dude has a good past-experience, friendly

so many variables here.
 
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