VN Ren'Py A Mother's Love [Part 1-15 Plus] [OrbOrigin]

[J0K3RXXX]

This theory is very interesting. We discussed it before, and I misinterpreted it at the time as Marilyn using her spell to get Nicole all for herself. It's my fault, and my brain processes things slowly.

My only question is why would Marilyn go to the trouble of making a spell to make Nicole fall in love with the MC (Us)? Does she have no confidence in MC (Us) that MC (Us) couldn't court Nicole?

It is quite possible that Marilyn did not have enough confidence that MC, a young man who has just come of age and is the boyfriend of her only daughter, will succeed in corrupting Nicole, an adult housewife apparently completely happy with her married and family life.

Perhaps Marilyn believed that Nicole Heavens would sooner rather than later completely shut down MC's attempts to make progress with her once her daughter Chloe received her final grades, but both MC and Nicole pleasantly surprised her.

Furthermore, we must not forget that Marilyn has her own romantic interest in Nicole and perhaps that spell not only made the final target of the spell fall madly in love with the one who unconsciously carried the spell, but also to reach further levels of corruption and submission (for example, making it possible in the near future that, if the bearer of the spell (MC) suggested a threesome, an orgy or a lesbian relationship to the final target (Nicole), the final target would accept it without any hesitation).

However, we shouldn't dismiss the various fan theories that have been appearing about the possibility that Marilyn's interest in Nicole is just a decoy to hide her true interest in the Heavens family, probably to get revenge on John for something the latter might have done in the past to her family (after all, we've only heard about Marilyn's family from the grandmother she currently lives with, and the mother, who was the first woman MC noticed when he was a kid, after playing a prank on her by soaking her with the hose; If I recall correctly, Marilyn's father has never been mentioned and the few mentions of her mother seem to be in the past tense, implying that she is dead).

I never played through the Chloe is Strange path so I never knew about the magic spell. This theory is very credible and infact I think this is what Orb wanted to convey if what you said about the magic circle under Chloe's bed is true on Chloe is Strange path.

This is most probably how Orb will proceed with the game but I wish we had the luxury of baby belly renders T_T

In my previous post I forgot to put a detail: if that fan theory is true, it would explain much better why Chloe Heavens is still in that coma, since perhaps it is the product of the strong clash within her psyche, between her survival instinct and the feelings generated and enhanced by the spell (if Chloe has that affair with Beeman, those feelings would be towards Beeman; if Chloe remains faithful to her boyfriend, she feels that way towards MC and as long as Beeman would leave the badly injured MC alone, she was agreeing to run away with their disgusting History teacher for the sake of her young boyfriend).

Therefore, in the big routes where Chloe has her adventure with Beeman, the spell will be affecting her more in that unconsciousness than in the other big route where she remains faithful to MC.

On the other hand, you should remember that Nicole's pregnancy is optional, based on the parameter of how many times MC has cum inside her pussy before she receives the SMS with the results of that blood test. And we must not forget that, taking into account so many main parameters (Nicole corruption points, Marilyn relationship points, Nicole creampie points, etcetera), AML will probably become one of those games that will have several multiple endings based on the results of those parameters (in my opinion, I think there will be 12 different endings based on the current 3 main routes, and that each of them can have one outcome or another depending on whether Nicole is pregnant or not and whether Nicole's corruption points are high or low).

 

[Optimus69420]

It is quite possible that Marilyn did not have enough confidence that MC, a young man who has just come of age and is the boyfriend of her only daughter, will succeed in corrupting Nicole, an adult housewife apparently completely happy with her married and family life.

Perhaps Marilyn believed that Nicole Heavens would sooner rather than later completely shut down MC's attempts to make progress with her once her daughter Chloe received her final grades, but both MC and Nicole pleasantly surprised her.

Furthermore, we must not forget that Marilyn has her own romantic interest in Nicole and perhaps that spell not only made the final target of the spell fall madly in love with the one who unconsciously carried the spell, but also to reach further levels of corruption and submission (for example, making it possible in the near future that, if the bearer of the spell (MC) suggested a threesome, an orgy or a lesbian relationship to the final target (Nicole), the final target would accept it without any hesitation).

Yeah, I guess you're right. Knowing Marilyn's character, she would have no confidence in MC (US) if MC (US) could make Nicole fall in love with him the natural way. Well, it's a good thing her spell backfired. If the spell were to succeed, in my opinion, it would've ruined the love story between MC (US) and Nicole.

However, we shouldn't dismiss the various fan theories that have been appearing about the possibility that Marilyn's interest in Nicole is just a decoy to hide her true interest in the Heavens family, probably to get revenge on John for something the latter might have done in the past to her family (after all, we've only heard about Marilyn's family from the grandmother she currently lives with, and the mother, who was the first woman MC noticed when he was a kid, after playing a prank on her by soaking her with the hose; If I recall correctly, Marilyn's father has never been mentioned and the few mentions of her mother seem to be in the past tense, implying that she is dead).

I really like this theory too and I hope it comes true. But it would be somewhat weird since I remember we had a couple of scenes where Marilyn showed her feelings toward Nicole to MC (US) by reading her erotic story and Marilyn smelling Nicole's panties. Or this could be another layer of decoy to hide Marilyn's true intentions. I guess we'll just have to wait and see for future updates for 'A Mother's Love'.

 

[MiceGuy]

first glance the cg actually looks good compared to the other games with scary 3d characters

 

[cowardleech]

first glance the cg actually looks good compared to the other games with scary 3d characters

Wait till you see the guy you're cucking he looks like a vampire

 

[vifaloveyou]

Six months and still no release date, the wait is too long

 

[frozztie]

i think he say february for new episode, he did realize he is working very slow but irl problem cant be avoided.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Yeah, I guess you're right. Knowing Marilyn's character, she would have no confidence in MC (US) if MC (US) could make Nicole fall in love with him the natural way. Well, it's a good thing her spell backfired. If the spell were to succeed, in my opinion, it would've ruined the love story between MC (US) and Nicole.

Now that you mentioned that, I was reminded of a small detail from that morning on Day 4: When MC goes to visit Nicole’s house to see her and not her daughter (the latter only happens when the player’s choices cause MC to want to study with his girlfriend or when the latter discovers that MC has deceived her regarding his talk with her mother, increasing her suspicions about him), Chloe unexpectedly returns to her house (causing the initial intimate moment between MC and Nicole to be delayed to the couch scene where he finds her asleep after her masturbation session), apparently because she received an anonymous message asking her to come back.

Given what we know about the story, it's almost 100% certain that the person who sent that anonymous text to Chloe was MC's nosy camgirl friend named Marilyn (who has woken MC up that morning in every possible route in the game and knows that he's going to visit that house).

With all this, I wonder what Marilyn's true intentions were in this regard, since the interaction with Chloe was where the spell should have acted on her. Maybe Marilyn realized beforehand that the spell went wrong or she regretted it at the last moment and intended to prevent it from affecting Nicole? Or perhaps the spell had no time limit and should have acted on someone with strong feelings towards the host (MC), but since at that moment Nicole had them but they were from two different extremes (on one hand she hated the corruption that MC was doing, but on the other, that same corruption was giving her something that she had longed for for a long time: to be truly desired by a man), that caused Nicole not to be the one affected, Chloe being the one affected because her strong feelings towards MC were mostly from one extreme?

I really like this theory too and I hope it comes true. But it would be somewhat weird since I remember we had a couple of scenes where Marilyn showed her feelings toward Nicole to MC (US) by reading her erotic story and Marilyn smelling Nicole's panties. Or this could be another layer of decoy to hide Marilyn's true intentions. I guess we'll just have to wait and see for future updates for 'A Mother's Love'.

I think we can safely say that we can expect anything from Marilyn. However, I think that Marilyn's attraction to Nicole is true, but this does not invalidate the fact that her recent closeness to MC (let's not forget that before Day 1, MC seems to have had very little contact with her recently) is the result of her having a grand plan involving MC and the Heavens in order to get revenge on John.

 

[Optimus69420]

Now that you mentioned that, I was reminded of a small detail from that morning on Day 4: When MC goes to visit Nicole’s house to see her and not her daughter (the latter only happens when the player’s choices cause MC to want to study with his girlfriend or when the latter discovers that MC has deceived her regarding his talk with her mother, increasing her suspicions about him), Chloe unexpectedly returns to her house (causing the initial intimate moment between MC and Nicole to be delayed to the couch scene where he finds her asleep after her masturbation session), apparently because she received an anonymous message asking her to come back.

Given what we know about the story, it's almost 100% certain that the person who sent that anonymous text to Chloe was MC's nosy camgirl friend named Marilyn (who has woken MC up that morning in every possible route in the game and knows that he's going to visit that house).

With all this, I wonder what Marilyn's true intentions were in this regard, since the interaction with Chloe was where the spell should have acted on her. Maybe Marilyn realized beforehand that the spell went wrong or she regretted it at the last moment and intended to prevent it from affecting Nicole? Or perhaps the spell had no time limit and should have acted on someone with strong feelings towards the host (MC), but since at that moment Nicole had them but they were from two different extremes (on one hand she hated the corruption that MC was doing, but on the other, that same corruption was giving her something that she had longed for for a long time: to be truly desired by a man), that caused Nicole not to be the one affected, Chloe being the one affected because her strong feelings towards MC were mostly from one extreme?

Perhaps Marilyn's spell only works if the significant other has strong feelings for the MC (US). So during that moment the only person who has strong feelings is Chloe and Nicole only had a mindset of disgust towards MC (US). I will continue to say this, I'm still glad that the spell backfired because if the spell worked it would ruined the love feelings between MC (US) & Nicole.

I think we can safely say that we can expect anything from Marilyn. However, I think that Marilyn's attraction to Nicole is true, but this does not invalidate the fact that her recent closeness to MC (let's not forget that before Day 1, MC seems to have had very little contact with her recently) is the result of her having a grand plan involving MC and the Heavens in order to get revenge on John.

It would be a real shock if MC (US) found out Marilyn's true intention. I have a feeling we'll get angry at Marilyn if MC (US) found out she's using us.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Perhaps Marilyn's spell only works if the significant other has strong feelings for the MC (US). So during that moment the only person who has strong feelings is Chloe and Nicole only had a mindset of disgust towards MC (US). I will continue to say this, I'm still glad that the spell backfired because if the spell worked it would ruined the love feelings between MC (US) & Nicole.

Remember what Marilyn tells MC about it in the Chloe is Strange route:

• "I placed something in your body hoping to benefit from it."
• "If things had turned out the way I intended, your sweet Nicole would've been under your influence."
• "Tell her to go North, she'll go. Tell her to go South, she'll go South."
• "And tell her to become your undying love interest, she might even consider dumping her family to be with you."
• "But of course, that's just too good to be true."
• "A simple miscalculation and it went down the drain, heading down a completely different path."
• "This bonding spell needed time to mature, and I was completely unaware of it when I casted it on you."
• "When the spell matured inside you, it needed another person full of emotions to act as its next host."
• "Unfortunately, when it matured, you weren't with Nicole."
• "However, I do have a theory about what happened."
• "By default, the spell had transfer itself onto Chloe when it was matured."
• "The link between you and Chloe existed then, however, the spell I cast is a positive spell."
• "An positive spell must use a positive energy."
• "Affectionate emotion was needed to be a source of its positive energy."
• "But the emotions between you and Chloe at the time were negative, causing the spell to deny to you, its main host."
• "The spell then stayed within Chloe and without a positive energy it remained inactive." (this dialogue line is said by MC, but I think it's a code typo).
• "It wasn't until when Beeman was there to offer comfort to Chloe, the bonding spell senses the positive emotions between the two, thus created the bond between Chloe and Beeman that we're aware today."

Taking into account this data (although given by Marilyn, who we could call an unreliable character), the spell could have affected Nicole Heavens (although taking into account the true bond between she and MC at the time of their story, we do not know if it would be to bond them or distance them since the corruption that MC was doing to Nicole at that time awakened mixed feelings in her, both positive and negative) if it had not been for that (supposed) maturation time that the spell needed.

So if we were to fully believe what Marilyn is telling MC, perhaps her goal in sending that anonymous text message to Chloe was to test how quickly the spell could affect Nicole, because perhaps she thought that the spell would act immediately with all its force and she imagined a situation where Chloe would catch them red-handed and Nicole, instead of trying to solve the mess what would form after that, would show that she didn't give a damn about it, letting MC continue fucking her as if Chloe hadn't discovered them.

It would be a real shock if MC (US) found out Marilyn's true intention. I have a feeling we'll get angry at Marilyn if MC (US) found out she's using us.

Well, I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of AML fans are already pissed off at her, at least to some degree.

Imagine the uproar among the AML fandom if this theory turns out to be true...

However, even though MC will be very very very upset with her if this theory is correct, I think in the end he will see the positive side of her, especially when she wanted to accompany him on the mission to save Chloe from Beeman. It would also depend on her hypothetical reasons for wanting revenge on John Heavens... and/or Chloe Heavens (throughout the game, especially in the routes where Chloe has sex with Beeman, we can see a certain animosity between the two girls. And what better way to destroy the stability of a know-it-all girl like Chloe than to make her suffer because of her parents' divorce caused by the affair between her mother and her boyfriend? Perhaps Chloe bullied her in the past and Marilyn, using her psychic powers that she now seems to have mastered to a certain degree, wants to get revenge on her).

 

[justin.case]

"It wasn't until when Beeman was there to offer comfort to Chloe, the bonding spell senses the positive emotions between the two, thus created the bond between Chloe and Beeman that we're aware today."

I did not even played that path but mere existence of it makes me disgust. I've seen fair share of disgusting things but this is whole another level.

 

[Schori123]

I think that number might be even worse in 2025 if Nicole stays pregnant for a few updates since it will practically double rendering time. But if we don't see her pregnant body until the ending then it'll be the same I guess.

Firstly, I have no clue about rendering and the time it takes.
But your comment leads me to question, if it's true that rendering pregnant characters take double the time then normal ones?
Or are you refering to the fact, that there has to be renders for pregnant Nicole and not pregnant Nicole and that's why double the time?

....

Personally, I think that this new 2025 will bring at least three updates, as it seems that Orb will no longer be burdened by the stress of finding a housing solution and after a period of adaptation to be able to normally work on his NSFW work in a place where he must be more cautious about it, I think he will get the hang of it. Also, as the timeline of AML's story progresses, I highly doubt that we will see Nicole Heavens with a noticeable baby belly.


Happy New Year to everyone.

We all hope for more then two in 2025, but we will take them as we get them.
But I personally hope, that in the near future, we will see Nicole with a baby belly!

 

[cowardleech]

there has to be renders for pregnant Nicole and not pregnant Nicole and that's why double the time?

Yes this is why I said it would take double time IF dev decides to add a baby belly soon.

 

[Optimus69420]

Remember what Marilyn tells MC about it in the Chloe is Strange route:

• "I placed something in your body hoping to benefit from it."
• "If things had turned out the way I intended, your sweet Nicole would've been under your influence."
• "Tell her to go North, she'll go. Tell her to go South, she'll go South."
• "And tell her to become your undying love interest, she might even consider dumping her family to be with you."
• "But of course, that's just too good to be true."
• "A simple miscalculation and it went down the drain, heading down a completely different path."
• "This bonding spell needed time to mature, and I was completely unaware of it when I casted it on you."
• "When the spell matured inside you, it needed another person full of emotions to act as its next host."
• "Unfortunately, when it matured, you weren't with Nicole."
• "However, I do have a theory about what happened."
• "By default, the spell had transfer itself onto Chloe when it was matured."
• "The link between you and Chloe existed then, however, the spell I cast is a positive spell."
• "An positive spell must use a positive energy."
• "Affectionate emotion was needed to be a source of its positive energy."
• "But the emotions between you and Chloe at the time were negative, causing the spell to deny to you, its main host."
• "The spell then stayed within Chloe and without a positive energy it remained inactive." (this dialogue line is said by MC, but I think it's a code typo).
• "It wasn't until when Beeman was there to offer comfort to Chloe, the bonding spell senses the positive emotions between the two, thus created the bond between Chloe and Beeman that we're aware today."

I haven't played through the 'Chloe is Strange" route but this is very interesting.

Taking into account this data (although given by Marilyn, who we could call an unreliable character), the spell could have affected Nicole Heavens (although taking into account the true bond between she and MC at the time of their story, we do not know if it would be to bond them or distance them since the corruption that MC was doing to Nicole at that time awakened mixed feelings in her, both positive and negative) if it had not been for that (supposed) maturation time that the spell needed.

So from the dialogue and what you're trying to say, the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole are because:
1.) The spell hasn't fully formed or matured yet when MC (US) first met with Nicole on that day.
2.) Nicole had mixed emotions towards MC (US), during that part of the story, but the spell only needed one emotion in order to bond or adapt to one person.
Please correct me if I'm wrong or missing a few details.

So if we were to fully believe what Marilyn is telling MC, perhaps her goal in sending that anonymous text message to Chloe was to test how quickly the spell could affect Nicole, because perhaps she thought that the spell would act immediately with all its force and she imagined a situation where Chloe would catch them red-handed and Nicole, instead of trying to solve the mess what would form after that, would show that she didn't give a damn about it, letting MC continue fucking her as if Chloe hadn't discovered them.

That's a very HOT and high-level of corruption for Nicole if Chloe ever discovered them red-handed if the spell worked on Nicole.

But since the spell didn't work on Nicole and she has true love feelings towards MC (US) I wonder how Nicole will react if Chloe catches them red-handed.

Well, I think it's safe to say that the vast majority of AML fans are already pissed off at her, at least to some degree.

Imagine the uproar among the AML fandom if this theory turns out to be true...

That's true. I guess I would be angry too if the theory turns out to be true. But I'll think something positive at the same time and that is, Marilyn's spell backfired and Nicole does truly love MC (US).

However, even though MC will be very very very upset with her if this theory is correct, I think in the end he will see the positive side of her, especially when she wanted to accompany him on the mission to save Chloe from Beeman.

That's true and Marilyn has been helping out MC (US) a lot throughout the game. Do you think the 'Marilyn friendship' points will have an impact if we find out the theory is true? Also, I just thought if this, how will it impact MC's (US) relationship with Nicole?

However, even though MC will be very very very upset with her if this theory is correct, I think in the end he will see the positive side of her, especially when she wanted to accompany him on the mission to save Chloe from Beeman. It would also depend on her hypothetical reasons for wanting revenge on John Heavens... and/or Chloe Heavens (throughout the game, especially in the routes where Chloe has sex with Beeman, we can see a certain animosity between the two girls. And what better way to destroy the stability of a know-it-all girl like Chloe than to make her suffer because of her parents' divorce caused by the affair between her mother and her boyfriend? Perhaps Chloe bullied her in the past and Marilyn, using her psychic powers that she now seems to have mastered to a certain degree, wants to get revenge on her).

This is also true. I guess we just have to wait and see who's Marilyn's true target of her revenge plot.

 

[cxx]

Firstly, I have no clue about rendering and the time it takes.
But your comment leads me to question, if it's true that rendering pregnant characters take double the time then normal ones?
Or are you refering to the fact, that there has to be renders for pregnant Nicole and not pregnant Nicole and that's why double the time?

preggo vs non-preggo are quite similar render time but both in game on same char is something which devs rarely do.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

I haven't played through the 'Chloe is Strange" route but this is very interesting.

In my opinion, that route is the most interesting of AML. I advise you to play it as soon as possible.

So from the dialogue and what you're trying to say, the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole are because:
1.) The spell hasn't fully formed or matured yet when MC (US) first met with Nicole on that day.
2.) Nicole had mixed emotions towards MC (US), during that part of the story, but the spell only needed one emotion in order to bond or adapt to one person.
Please correct me if I'm wrong or missing a few details.

Always according to what Marilyn said, the spell had to wait a while to mature enough for the bonding to be successful. However, we don't really know if this is true or just an excuse Marilyn gives MC to argue why the spell backfired on her.

As for the second point, it is my assumption, but I think that the spell requires that the person who will be the object of bonding with the host (MC in this case) must have a set of emotions towards the host that, for the most part, are positive affectively. If there are emotions but they are sufficiently contradictory in an equitable way, the spell could cause rejection or be useless by not detecting enough positive energy, as Marilyn calls it. And at that moment Nicole was in a mess, because even though she disliked the corruption produced by MC, she gave in to her sexual impulses shortly after, masturbating after MC's previous proximity to her (and let's not forget that after the moment when MC forces himself to cum inside her mouth with the excuse of not dirtying her sofa, she then goes to the bathroom and has that semen in her mouth for a long time until she decides to swallow it).

That's a very HOT and high-level of corruption for Nicole if Chloe ever discovered them red-handed if the spell worked on Nicole.

But since the spell didn't work on Nicole and she has true love feelings towards MC (US) I wonder how Nicole will react if Chloe catches them red-handed.

Maybe we'll see it in one of those recent wet dreams turned nightmares that Nicole is having recently, but instead of being discovered by her husband John it would be by her daughter Chloe.

That's true. I guess I would be angry too if the theory turns out to be true. But I'll think something positive at the same time and that is, Marilyn's spell backfired and Nicole does truly love MC (US).

True, but in this aspect I was not referring so much to the spell as to the potential non-psychic manipulation that Marilyn would have done to MC with the theoretical hidden purpose of taking revenge on John for something from the past related to his family.

That's true and Marilyn has been helping out MC (US) a lot throughout the game. Do you think the 'Marilyn friendship' points will have an impact if we find out the theory is true? Also, I just thought if this, how will it impact MC's (US) relationship with Nicole?

Personally I think it will be a major parameter to take into account, but I don't know if it will be as important as other parameters like Nicole corruption points or the number of times MC cums inside her pussy (parameter that apparently determines whether she becomes pregnant or not)

This is also true. I guess we just have to wait and see who's Marilyn's true target of her revenge plot.

True, but if this theory were true and Chloe was the real target, I wonder what she would have done to Marilyn in the past to cause such spite and desire for revenge. After all, it is often said that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools.

 

[Optimus69420]

In my opinion, that route is the most interesting of AML. I advise you to play it as soon as possible.

I'll try and find the time to playthrough it. It does sound interesting.

Always according to what Marilyn said, the spell had to wait a while to mature enough for the bonding to be successful. However, we don't really know if this is true or just an excuse Marilyn gives MC to argue why the spell backfired on her.

As for the second point, it is my assumption, but I think that the spell requires that the person who will be the object of bonding with the host (MC in this case) must have a set of emotions towards the host that, for the most part, are positive affectively. If there are emotions but they are sufficiently contradictory in an equitable way, the spell could cause rejection or be useless by not detecting enough positive energy, as Marilyn calls it. And at that moment Nicole was in a mess, because even though she disliked the corruption produced by MC, she gave in to her sexual impulses shortly after, masturbating after MC's previous proximity to her (and let's not forget that after the moment when MC forces himself to cum inside her mouth with the excuse of not dirtying her sofa, she then goes to the bathroom and has that semen in her mouth for a long time until she decides to swallow it).

I can say we can safely assume that these are the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole. 1. The spell hadn't mature enough and 2. Nicole had mix feelings towards MC (US).

Maybe we'll see it in one of those recent wet dreams turned nightmares that Nicole is having recently, but instead of being discovered by her husband John it would be by her daughter Chloe.

I'm actually excited on how these nightmares will play out.

True, but in this aspect I was not referring so much to the spell as to the potential non-psychic manipulation that Marilyn would have done to MC with the theoretical hidden purpose of taking revenge on John for something from the past related to his family.

Ohhhh I see. I guess AML fans would be angry more if we find out that Marilyn was using MC (US) this entire time for her personal gain. I think some would be ok since Marilyn wants to take down John as well but I guess we'll find out once the Marilyn spell & revenge theory turns out to be true.

Personally I think it will be a major parameter to take into account, but I don't know if it will be as important as other parameters like Nicole corruption points or the number of times MC cums inside her pussy (parameter that apparently determines whether she becomes pregnant or not)

I also think it will be a major parameter. But I'm starting to question if it will be important too when you explained it. I guess we just have to wait and see in a future update.

True, but if this theory were true and Chloe was the real target, I wonder what she would have done to Marilyn in the past to cause such spite and desire for revenge. After all, it is often said that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools.

Another thing to wait and see to find out. If Chloe was the real target, I'm curious about what she did to Marilyn in order for to execute her revenge theory plan. I didn't know that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools. That is an interesting fact.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

I can say we can safely assume that these are the reasons why the spell didn't work on Nicole. 1. The spell hadn't mature enough and 2. Nicole had mix feelings towards MC (US).

The second is an assumption in case the spell was already mature when he was next to Nicole, although Marilyn claims that when that happened MC must have already been with Chloe, causing what we are theorizing (officially, the spell only happens in the Chloe is Strange route).

I'm actually excited on how these nightmares will play out.

Let's hope so. It's another theory of the future content that Orb can show us in the future parts, since it would be something original based on the probable clash in her psyche both due to Nicole's fear for the condition of her daughter and the mixed feelings she has about the forbidden relationship she has with MC (on the one hand, she can't deny the feelings she has for him, but on the other hand there are the regrets she must be feeling for being in a relationship with his daughter's (ex-)boyfriend).

Another thing to wait and see to find out. If Chloe was the real target, I'm curious about what she did to Marilyn in order for to execute her revenge theory plan. I didn't know that female bullies are the cruelest in high schools. That is an interesting fact.

Another possibility is that what Chloe really did to her was something imagined or misperceived by Marilyn, and that as time passed her memories magnified it. However, the few references Chloe makes to MC about Marilyn are not positive at all except in the route where Chloe is MC's faithful girlfriend, because in it those two girls spend some time in the ice cream shop while MC and Nicole enjoy that excursion in that coastal town.

 

[Optimus69420]

The second is an assumption in case the spell was already mature when he was next to Nicole, although Marilyn claims that when that happened MC must have already been with Chloe, causing what we are theorizing (officially, the spell only happens in the Chloe is Strange route).

Ohhhh I see and get it now. What was the theory you mentioned that the spell exists in the other two paths, the 'Chloe is still my GF' & 'Chloe is not my GF'?

Let's hope so. It's another theory of the future content that Orb can show us in the future parts, since it would be something original based on the probable clash in her psyche both due to Nicole's fear for the condition of her daughter and the mixed feelings she has about the forbidden relationship she has with MC (on the one hand, she can't deny the feelings she has for him, but on the other hand there are the regrets she must be feeling for being in a relationship with his daughter's (ex-)boyfriend).

That's true. At this point, Nicole can't deny the feelings she has for MC (US) now since Nicole or MC (US) said "I love you" to each other.

Another possibility is that what Chloe really did to her was something imagined or misperceived by Marilyn, and that as time passed her memories magnified it. However, the few references Chloe makes to MC about Marilyn are not positive at all except in the route where Chloe is MC's faithful girlfriend, because in it those two girls spend some time in the ice cream shop while MC and Nicole enjoy that excursion in that coastal town.

If they're somewhat friendly to each other Marilyn's revenge on Chloe is somewhat a 50/50 of happening because I'm guessing her revenge storyline needs to happen in all three routes. Most likely Marilyn's revenge on John hast the huge percentage to happen in all three routes.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Ohhhh I see and get it now. What was the theory you mentioned that the spell exists in the other two paths, the 'Chloe is still my GF' & 'Chloe is not my GF'?

That we know, all this is just a theory. However, considering that Marilyn confesses MC on the Chloe is Strange route that she made that spell at a time that is unavoidable in all possible routes of the game (when she took advantage of her psychic powers to enter in his mind during the morning of the Day 4), it is logical to think that the spell has also happened in the other two great routes of the game ("Chloe is still MC's girlfriend" and "Chloe is no longer MC's girlfriend") but MC wouldn't even know the spell existed nor would Marilyn suspect that it backfired and affected Chloe instead of Nicole.

If this theory is finally on target, I imagine that the spell on those routes will be discovered very soon when the normal medical methods to wake Chloe up don't work at all. Perhaps after that, Marilyn will have a hunch about what really happened and sneak into the Heavens' house to confirm her suspicions, at which point she will be caught by MC and will no longer be able to keep her dirty little secret to herself, having to confess to MC what she intended to do to him and Nicole. I imagine that this route will provoke a greater feeling of betrayal in MC, which could lead to a progressive distancing between MC and Marilyn, which would be even greater if during that game MC has few Marilyn relationship points.

If they're somewhat friendly to each other Marilyn's revenge on Chloe is somewhat a 50/50 of happening because I'm guessing her revenge storyline needs to happen in all three routes. Most likely Marilyn's revenge on John hast the huge percentage to happen in all three routes.

While this is another plausible theory, remember that it is less likely to actually happen than the one described above. After all, Marilyn is a curious character who is difficult to understand. All things considered, she is the closest thing to a Joker in this story. In the end, everything she's done throughout the game may have been just because she wanted to have fun, screwing over the other characters; or there may be something more serious motivating her actions, which could be what we're now theorizing: a twisted plan for revenge against someone from the Heavens family.

 

[With The]

btw is this game turn into supernatural game ?