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I haven't played the game yet to give a verdict, but I think complaining about the game being bad because the MC is "18" and has a babysitter is kicking below the waist. We all know that everyone is at least "18" in the world of smut games until they're Rule #7. If the game is only bad because of that, just try to imagine he's 10-12 and the babysitter 15, like you said, and have fun. Or even do a patch for that.
I know those silly disclaimers on just about every AVN are bullshit everyone should ignore but one shouldn't need to have to unren and re-write every last AVN with cartoons that are 18yo when that makes no logical sense (this is far from the only one). If they are meant to be 12 quit making your story dumber and just say they are 12 at the start and quit being paranoid about lawyers and shit (unless you live in Singapore or something, then you're possibly in deep shit anyway just for making porn). Shiny Devon comes to mind. In their AVNs (none allowed here, almost all are all prepubescent and are not censored) the lolis actually mention their ages in dialog before getting fucked by the MC (most 7-10 with a few 13-15's here and there). AFAIK as a dev they're still fine and active on Discord and still making AVNs even though there are no such silly disclaimers to click through and ignore, nor any patches or age/relationship setters, they were all set in code to what they were supposed to be at the start. Granted that was a few years ago before Pixiv started kicking all uncensored loli art/AVNs off their site (not that other sites haven't replaced them, some of which are crypto only). Pretty sure 13's Our Island does the same with the MC's daughters and nieces (thankfully not on hold anymore later this year), at least as far as fake 18's go (by default they are 12-14 irrc).
 
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It's not that simple... You may not be arrested (though a guy was arrested in Australia some time ago), but you won't be allowed to use Patreon; I don't even know if Subscribestar allows that or only incest... (But, if they do, they probably won't last too long). So, it's easier to do something dubious than to risk your ass financially (or even literally).
SS officially allows only the same things Patreon does, but unofficially if it's otherwise US-legal it's allowed (ie they mostly don't really enforce their TOS like Patreon does, it just exists to appease Mastercard/Visa mostly). And yeah I know about Westy/Proud Father (RIP), but he was based in that totalitarian shit hole where you have to to be either brave or stupid to make AVNs at all, let alone loli ones, considering another guy there back in 2009 (I think) got prison time for simply drawing Bart and Lisa Simpson fucking and showing off on his art skill on his website (where the crazy fuckers legally gave Bart Simpson citizenship or some shit to make C P charges stick even with fictional cartoons). But as someone in the US where 1st Amendment is a thing I wouldn't give a fuck what foreign laws there were. As far as Patreon, like I said before fuck those guys, at this point any AVN put on there that they approve of isn't worth subbing to anyway so why bother, put it on other platforms that don't give a shit about otherwise US-legal content (SS, Backed.by, I think Boosty, etc). Better still, be an alpha Chad like Deaufosse and just make AVNs for Discord praise and because you enjoy doing it, fuck the money. Just release it on the sites that don't care about content as long as it isn't real or AICG that can pass for that (ie All The Fallen) if it's not allowed here.
 
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I know porn plots generally never were War & Peace level but c'mon, they've going from generally bad to worse with every passing year, almost to the point they might as well just have fuck scenes with no story at all.
You mean you couldn't tell it's going to be pure shit just from the title?
Anyone who can't be bothered to properly translate the title of their game isn't going to put too much effort into anything else to do with the game.
 
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meh I'd at least not give a fuck and have some artisitic integrity, a spine, and some balls. Instead of disclaiming shit I'd own it (ie No cartoon in this AVN is 18, some are 12, if that offends you, then fuck you, don't play it if you don't like it. I also don't care if you are 18 or not. I assume you know this is a porn story and wanna fap to some porn and also know if I bother asking you will just lie anyway if needed so not even going to waste lines of code posing the question, also this is not fictional/coincidental at all but based on a true story, though names and addresses have been changed to protect the guilty, etc). If they are meant to be 12 in the story, fuck it, then I'd write them as such. A number of loli/shota devs do that, some no patch or age/relationship setters necessary, ages/relationships are already what they were meant to be by default. In the case of this one at least the finished AVN wouldn't be half as dumb as it is. Fuck censorship.
The guy isn't running a charity, he wants to make cash and he won't get that if Patreon bans his shit. That's why they say the kid's 18 yo, because otherwise they won't be able to monetize the game.

It ain't rocket surgery.
 
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I understand that this has to do with legal implications regarding age (in my country, for example, the age of legal consent is 14 years old)
you might want to look at that again, that is legal age of consent when with another minor or with someone of comparable age who has no position of authority over said minor. also no one under the age of 18 is permitted to be filmed in a compromising position or otherwise involved in porn... this would be under the prostitution and child protective laws.
This is the same for all those countries that have lower ages of consent... even the US where New York has age of consent law as low as 14 and 16 years old. or China where rural areas have age of consent at 12 years of age for girls.

these age of consent clauses in laws set the minimum requirements for determining rape that is why they are always under a state or national rape laws.
 
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I find those comments attacking the plot, him being 18, too old for babysitting, ridiculous.

It's like none watched porn ever! It's (the plot) just an excuse (duh). And I'm not talking about the dad fucking the babysitter, there are many porn-clips with 30yo (and over) men fucking their babysitter, not their children, 18yo having a babysitter is not even that weird, at least in porn-porn-world.

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You do realize "in the porn world" they do the same shit?? "My 18 year old son just got home from middle school" type shit
 

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Prefer an old cow to a young girl? Plenty of games with MILF, DILF and other such crap, play them why are you whining here.
Why are you whining about his whining?

The man is just speaking facts, that milf is obviously hotter than the girl :rolleyes:.


EDIT- But each one with it's preferences, some like milfs some like teens.

And some like attractive ones and don't care about age, like me... so in this case in my opinion the milf is hotter. Whatever
 
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The guy isn't running a charity, he wants to make cash and he won't get that if Patreon bans his shit. That's why they say the kid's 18 yo, because otherwise they won't be able to monetize the game.

It ain't rocket surgery.
I know, but like I said before at this point nothing that gets dumbed down to Patreon's level is worth subbing to in the first place, so might as well not bother at all if they care about money that much and get a real job. Plus it's not like Patreon is the only platform in existence at this point, there's half a dozen others at least, some of which couldn't care less about content at all since it runs on crypto (ie Backed.by). If nothing else go old school and rent a PO box and put that in the OP and let people mail in their support if they really want to (yes, some on All The Fallen actually do that and apparently send enough to keep the devs motivated). Also pretty much all online platforms report taxes/income (most likely how Westy got busted, he was making $30k a month) so if one wants to avoid that as well as platform processing fees cash is the way to go anyway (though I'm surprised cash still exists in 2024).
 
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you might want to look at that again, that is legal age of consent when with another minor or with someone of comparable age who has no position of authority over said minor. also no one under the age of 18 is permitted to be filmed in a compromising position or otherwise involved in porn... this would be under the prostitution and child protective laws.
This is the same for all those countries that have lower ages of consent... even the US where New York has age of consent law as low as 14 and 16 years old. or China where rural areas have age of consent at 12 years of age for girls.

these age of consent clauses in laws set the minimum requirements for determining rape that is why they are always under a state or national rape laws.
The thing is the US courts have already ruled (both state in the case of California and federal) if it's a cartoon and easily recognized as such (ie not photorealistic) and not based on real people then ages of said characters don't matter, no matter what they are doing as far as CP law is concerned. Unlike foreign courts here they have common sense and ask the prosecution before their rulings "ok, so where's the victim(s) the applicable law is meant to protect?" They're fictional and don't exist? Then case dismissed." Now, they might, though highly unlikely these days, try again under obscenity law, but most DA's and prosecutors won't even try anymore since they will most likely lose and lose face in the process as everything these days can have artisitic merit, esp when it comes to AVNs, and proving it does or doesn't have such an intangible is on the prosecution to prove and they fail almost every time without other more serious/easier to convict charges attached (only successful obscenity prosecutions over the past 20 years the defendants either plea bargained or also had priors and were on sex offender lists among other things, the pandering obscenity charges were footnotes, similar to a school shooter getting 20 murder convictions but also getting convicted of disturbing the peace and theft of the murder weapon).
 

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NY is 17. The lowest in 'Murica is 16. China is uniformly 14. But you're right about the 18 thing because all this censorship (in Patreon and so on) is not about consent (though Patreon also has this thing with consent too) but about the depiction of minors in pornography.



Well... I wouldn't be so sure, since the SCOTUS flips all the time, and the US is one of the most puritanical places in the world. Furthermore, they use Common Law which is, in practice, whatever the jury decides... So, everything can happen in 'Murica when the Powers-That-Be decides so.

EDIT: B.T.W., I played the game. Actually, I "played" the "game" since it's a kinetic novel wherein the only choice is if you wanna fuck the girl or have a small NTR scene. I'll judge for what it is, which I think is either a showcase of what the dev can do or a demo/prequel for an upcoming game. Nice renders and I like the comedic style. I think the dev overemphasized the MC is eighteen; it would be better if it were mentioned only once -- no need to play with it all the time. And I think he should have ended the sex scenes... If this is only a one-off showcase, then, it feels like it's missing; and, if it will continue, it was a bad bait calling it a "complete release". I'd give it three stars -- which, in my rating, it's not bad since I'm picky and rarely give 5 stars. It means that it's entertaining and I'd check it later if there is a follow-through, but not really outstanding. Also, as I said, I'm rating it for what (I think) it is -- a demo/showcase. If it were a full-game release, of course, the rating would be inferior.
A country that is the biggest producer of porn in the world "most puritanical places in the world", what the fuck are you talking about jap :FacePalm:
 
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