Bro please don't mind, but bro why do you sound like LnP from AWAM. Very similar
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I kind of agree and kind of disagree. I've actually been involved with the VN community for a pretty long time at this point and am have become selective *because* of my experience, not a lack of it. I've contributed to too many promising games centered around a slow burn philosophy with a dev working on it part time where the game has ended up with an abandoned tag or consistent no-content updated to "expand the (milk patrons) story" or, like you mentioned, colossal periods between updates.
I personally do not think that these games should be viewed from the perspective of how long it took for the game to finish. Ultimately, this is all porn, just in a game medium. I'd even argue that almost all games on this site work off the idea that they are providing independent content for stimulation every time they update. After your game has developed the groundwork it needs for the game to flow correctly and for the story to start to make sense, what needs to be asked for every, or at least most, updates is "Has masturbatory content been provided." I assume the case will be made that the groundwork won't be laid out until v3. If that's the case, sure, but I personally can't justify contributing to a game for a *year* with the expectation that there will be no content for that entire backing period. We don't even know how the sexual CGs are going to look, as we're 4 updates in and haven't seen any. The graphical prowess of a dev to make a sexual scene both realistic looking and arousing is often the make or break for games, so to have that pushed so far in the future makes it hard to guarantee this will be worth it in the end.
The reason games like A Promise Best Left Unkept, the Aederin Studio games, Rick and Morty: A Way Home, etc work is because every update they're moving forward, and they didn't take a year to get to their content. Aederin Studios, last I heard, is a 2 or 3 person team and have released monthly updates for like 2 years, with each update being a worthwhile independent justification for the contribution amount.
Ultimately, I think the most recent update was a step backwards, not forward, and I worry that this is how the next half dozen updates are going to look. Think about it like this: What could the dev possibly add in the first 3 updates of Anna's perspective to make it more worthwhile than those 3 months being used to push the story forward. I think the design philosophy of releasing 5 versions from one perspective and then 5 updates from Anna's perspective is going to kill all of the momentum this game builds. I've seen this script play out too many time, and it almost always leads to burnout and then an abandoned tag. I'd love to be proven wrong, though, as this game has potential. I just can't be asked to fund another game that has potential but no content
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Good points. I misunderstood your original post because I thought you were saying the game was taking too long to reach a conclusion when what you were really saying is that it's taking too long to get to the good stuff. It's indeed true that many games that present themselves as slow burn and delay the sex scenes actually never end up burning much at all so that's a totally understandable concern. However, I also feel like sex scenes often come at the expense of the story especially when they happen with too little buildup. For instance, in The Adventurous Couple Anne at times seems more like a convenient vehicle for sex scenes than a living, breathing human being with thoughts and feelings. I still remember when she was extremely reluctant about engaging in the new lifestyle her husband had proposed...boy, that period sure didn't last long.
I think there are basically three types of people who play AVNs who often don't understand each other very well: there are those who play primarily for the fap, those who play primarily for the story and the characters, and those who fall in between those two extremes but probably lean more to one side than the other. It's very difficult to please everyone even though all the groups often play the exact same games. I personally am much more on the story side of the spectrum. I tend to think of my favorite VNs as being more akin to erotic thrillers than to straight up Bang Bus style porn. The hot scenes spice up the story and make it more exciting, but I don't actually stop and fap while playing because I'm too invested in finding out what'll happen next. I usually won't complain about a lack of sex too much as long as I find the story engaging and the characters interesting which is definitely the case with A Perfect Marriage so far. But yeah, even I would probably get bored at some point if the sex absolutely never happens.
I wonder if a reasonable compromise in the short term might be to have more scenes with David and Anna that are more sensuously posed than their initial encounter was. That would make sense given where we are in the story and wouldn't require any sudden corruption. I think their first scene was more about Anna's sexual frustration and what it was about to lead to so it made sense it was presented the way it was, but it definitely could've been hotter it had been shown from a different angle and had displayed Anna in all of her glory. I don't necessarily want to see a sex scene absolutely be required every update -- that seems too formulaic -- but I agree with you that we should probably be getting more of a feel for what Mr. Palmer's idea of eroticism is like by now. A scene with Anna masturbating could make sense for chapter 2 as well.
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The public version should be released near the middle of the month, think around the 12??
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Gold - Mon, Aug 29
Silver - Tue, Sept 6
Bronze - Sat, Sept 10
Public - Tue, Sept 13
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The next release will conclude Part 1. It will consist of Friday and part of Saturday. As you'd expect, there's a lot we'll learn in this
Sadowdark Are referring to the release you described above
Gold - Mon, Aug 29
Silver - Tue, Sept 6
Bronze - Sat, Sept 10
Public - Tue, Sept 13
Or is it referring to the release after that?
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The next release will conclude Part 1. It will consist of Friday and part of Saturday. As you'd expect, there's a lot we'll learn in this update... like, for example, why Anna is upset in this picture.
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Maybe her boss told her the real reason she was promoted to “head” secretary was because she to take “dicktation” so she should go out and buy some comfortable knee pad
Thanks a lot for the pic. We are going to see what is the Anna upset. Her boss? Her husband? Her father in low bussiness? The gym woman? The lack of sex? None of them? All of them?
IMO this is a pic for a 3€ tier, not a 13 € one. I know that the game is in an earlier development. But maybe a wallpaper, or a pic of David looking a photo of Anna in swimsuit or bikini from a past holydays in the beach (before or during her pregnancy), somekind of fan service.
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In fact it may be the case but I worry because the problems have already started to appear lol
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Maybe David found out about something she hid and while confronting her she cried.
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What I hope is this is a big enough update to satisfy the audience in this pov of David. If I am not wrong this must be the last part of David's pov and in the next one we'll move on to Anna's. What I think will happen is the initialization of the different routes which the players can take in these two povs and then it will loop on for some more to progress the story forward. Some of the start of some "real problems" in this perfect marriage will most probably start beyond this part. That's my guess.
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This update will be short now, the next one will be the last of David's perspective
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For example Anna knowing that there is a girl interested in David at first she gets worried because there are other tigresses wanting to take what is hers lolOr maybe the contrary
