VN Ren'Py Completed A Promise Best Left Unkept [Bonus S2 Ep 9-11] [Hangover Cat]

[mommysboiii]

Seeing the recent replies i just can't wait for Aya routes. Those gonna be some sweet tears. "Aya wasn't supposed to be like that" "her character was changed!" "she wouldn't fall, story is inconsistent!" "Bad writing REEEE!".

wait for the aya kiss path this will be a true romance path Aya and harry will be happy I promise 100% a happy ending I can smell it its so close boisss

 

[GiGiGus ニクヤセベ!]

Seeing the recent replies i just can't wait for Aya routes. Those gonna be some sweet tears. "Aya wasn't supposed to be like that" "her character was changed!" "she wouldn't fall, story is inconsistent!" "Bad writing REEEE!".

It was written semi-ironically. I mean, whatever, but it is a bad writing. It was a case with The Edge Of as well. HC firstly goes kinda strong, good setup and adequate character exposition (for a smut game at least), but then shit happens and MC becomes a blind retarded cuck and his wife morphs into intergalactic whore. Okay, I got you, magic dick and empathy on the antagonist's side in this case. But in case of ABPLU, Harry is a normal loving self-reflection (as are all in this game) person, kinda handsome, has decent cock size by this game's universe standarts. Aya likes him 100%. There's no way in hell that she could be corrupted, and not with just anything, but with a freaking rape. I can't imagine a timeline where it's possible to convincingly realise this even with porn logic. Don't write down us in vanilla likers or NTR haters or soft-skinned pussies or whatever else. This path is just comically bad.

 

[mommysboiii]

It was written semi-ironically. I mean, whatever, but it is a bad writing. It was a case with The Edge Of as well. HC firstly goes kinda strong, good setup and adequate character exposition (for a smut game at least), but then shit happens and MC becomes a blind retarded cuck and his wife morphs into intergalactic whore. Okay, I got you, magic dick and empathy on the antagonist's side in this case. But in case of ABPLU, Harry is a normal loving self-reflection (as are all in this game) person, kinda handsome, has decent cock size by this game's universe standarts. Aya likes him 100%. There's no way in hell that she could be corrupted, and not with just anything, but with a freaking rape. I can't imagine a timeline where it's possible to convincingly realise this even with porn logic. Don't write down us in vanilla likers or NTR haters or soft-skinned pussies or whatever else. This path is just comically bad.

just wait for the kiss love path mate harry will ditch laura ,harry and aya will date,harry and aya will hopless fall in love ,harry and aya will have sex,harry and aya will cuddel all night long ,harry and aya will have a picnic in the sunset.....................................

 

[Flojerazul20]

It doesn't necessarily have to be Harry who takes revenge on Luca, it could perfectly well be "Aya" herself who does it, for this reason he raped her

 

[rangabang]

Wouldnt it be funny if the good ending all the vanillafags playing ntr games are so desperately waiting for turns out to be one where Harry is happy, but happy being cucked?

 

[Flojerazul20]

There comes a time when one just wants to see, that actions have consequences, therefore at some point karma must arrive independent of the ntr

 

[DarkSkies2000]

There comes a time when one just wants to see, that actions have consequences, therefore at some point karma must arrive independent of the ntr

Dark Hero Party had endings like that, actually. And it's what made it fresh to most novels of the genre. It was an NTR game, but in the end, we could still choose to kill the bully/villain.

 

[Terix3]

It was written semi-ironically. I mean, whatever, but it is a bad writing. It was a case with The Edge Of as well. HC firstly goes kinda strong, good setup and adequate character exposition (for a smut game at least), but then shit happens and MC becomes a blind retarded cuck and his wife morphs into intergalactic whore. Okay, I got you, magic dick and empathy on the antagonist's side in this case. But in case of ABPLU, Harry is a normal loving self-reflection (as are all in this game) person, kinda handsome, has decent cock size by this game's universe standarts. Aya likes him 100%. There's no way in hell that she could be corrupted, and not with just anything, but with a freaking rape. I can't imagine a timeline where it's possible to convincingly realise this even with porn logic. Don't write down us in vanilla likers or NTR haters or soft-skinned pussies or whatever else. This path is just comically bad.

"Blind MC is weak writing " - some sort of blindness is necessary for netorare to be netorare. Sure they could only fuck in hotel, not pick up phone calls and Harry would really have no way of knowing. Would that make a better NTR ? No. I personally look forward those risky scenes and if you look at the bonus scenes votes it would seem that is a trend.

"Being so blind is unbelievable." - Clearly you underestimate how trusting people in love are towards what their beloved say. Furthermore the MC is under trauma, if MC in Edge of was paranoid of being cheated and saw it everywhere this MC is afraid of it and turns the blind eye to everything. It is not something HC has invented, denial is very common practice. It is mentioned by the other characters that Harry must be subconsciously aware of being cheated but he is denying that thought and clinging to anything that leads to another explanation.

"Harry is a honest relatable character" - Like number 1 complaint about Edge of was about the MC not being relatable. Not something I care about but many want MC to be the good guy but still want him to get cucked, heh. Also I think when relating people forget about his trauma. But him being good doesn't mean that he is not at fault in the eyes of another character. Like Laura blames Harry for saying he understands her while he doesn't. In Aya case in this route - probably Harry is just too indecisive.

"Aya wouldn't be corrupted" - Because? What do you know about her really ? Why is she so obsessed with Harry to begin with ? What is the "that is the person I am" she speaks of ?
I'm holding of playing the update but I believe it was not explained in what circumstances Luca fucked Aya. Do you remember how Laura was self-confident about having sex with Luca because she normally had hard time cuming ? My bet something similar happened to Aya and she is crying because she lost.

 

[Terix3]

There comes a time when one just wants to see, that actions have consequences, therefore at some point karma must arrive independent of the ntr

What you are actually asking for is not for actions to have consequences but for justice - you do good stuff and you get rewarded, you do bad stuff and karma comes back to you.
But if it doesn't? It doesn't arrive in real world why does it need to arrive in fictional story?
Someone else could say that maybe Harry is just destined to be cucked?

Dark Hero Party had endings like that, actually. And it's what made it fresh to most novels of the genre. It was an NTR game, but in the end, we could still choose to kill the bully/villain.

You are getting cucked just by playing that game, the gameplay itself is something that is made to make you suffer. If you go through that you kinda deserve to feel omnipotent and fuck the world up. But I wouldn't call killing the bully justice. While the bully was bully the MC was simply shooting above his league. The girl while loved him owed him no faithfulness, she decided to go succumb to the bully to save the world and fell in love with him eventually. At that point the MC becomes the villain himself as killing the bully does not restore his relationship and actually destroys another.

 

[DarkSkies2000]

What you are actually asking for is not for actions to have consequences but for justice - you do good stuff and you get rewarded, you do bad stuff and karma comes back to you.
But if it doesn't? It doesn't arrive in real world why does it need to arrive in fictional story?
Someone else could say that maybe Harry is just destined to be cucked?


You are getting cucked just by playing that game, the gameplay itself is something that is made to make you suffer. If you go through that you kinda deserve to feel omnipotent and fuck the world up. But I wouldn't call killing the bully justice. While the bully was bully the MC was simply shooting above his league. The girl while loved him owed him no faithfulness, she decided to go succumb to the bully to save the world and fell in love with him eventually. At that point the MC becomes the villain himself as killing the bully does not restore his relationship and actually destroys another.

I don't think the MC's actions were morally good ones, at least in most endings. You can still have the choice to spare the villain's life and go on with your own with that godness. At the same time, you can literally eradicate all love from the world in one of the endings, IIRC. In the end, it's up to the player if they want to go full villain or not, but I say it still gives you a sensation of easiness when killing the bully.

 

[Boobitz]

I think Terix3 is correct in saying we know very little about Aya's motivations, and that's probably how Luca will corrupt her. Because at the end of the day, Luca doesn't win against Harry just due to sexual satisfaction, but because he understands Laura more than Harry does. So there probably won't be magic rape dick happening, and if it does, it's a waste of a character.

 

[Traveroro]

What you are actually asking for is not for actions to have consequences but for justice - you do good stuff and you get rewarded, you do bad stuff and karma comes back to you.
But if it doesn't? It doesn't arrive in real world why does it need to arrive in fictional story?
Someone else could say that maybe Harry is just destined to be cucked?

I assume what people are trying to say with ''karma'' is that seeing someone perpetually lose and someone else perpetually win feels unsatisfying. We have a tendency to root for underdogs, and to get tired of predictable outcomes, regardless of how moral that is.
Maybe you can say he signed to be a perpetual loser the moment he booted a ntr game, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a game with so many routes to have at least one in which the mc wins.

On another note, If I was Harry I'd probably feel more resentful of the wife than of Luca since I wouldn't expect an asshole to act like anything but. However, I would expect my wife not to lie to me, let alone get in schemes with my historical bully to drug me.

 

[Y.Gromov]

I think Terix3 is correct in saying we know very little about Aya's motivations, and that's probably how Luca will corrupt her. Because at the end of the day, Luca doesn't win against Harry just due to sexual satisfaction, but because he understands Laura more than Harry does. So there probably won't be magic rape dick happening, and if it does, it's a waste of a character.

Where does he understand her? He put it into her head by bringing her to orgasm multiple times! He made a stupid whore out of her with the help of his "magical" cock! She loved Harry, she be with him for more than a year, if something didn’t suit her in bed, she could tell him about it or take the initiative - but this is ntr story - it's just a cliché
"I know you better than your husband or your love and I will prove it to you with the help of my Dick!"
That's all!

 

[Terix3]

I assume what people are trying to say with ''karma'' is that seeing someone perpetually lose and someone else perpetually win feels unsatisfying. We have a tendency to root for underdogs, and to get tired of predictable outcomes, regardless of how moral that is.
Maybe you can say he signed to be a perpetual loser the moment he booted a ntr game, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a game with so many routes to have at least one in which the mc wins.

On another note, If I was Harry I'd probably feel more resentful of the wife than of Luca since I wouldn't expect an asshole to act like anything but. However, I would expect my wife not to lie to me, let alone get in schemes with my historical bully to drug me.

This is not role playing game where you expect the game to cover variety of options one may chose to solve a situation. This is ntr game with clear intention on satisfying various ways people enjoy ntr, that what the routes are for.

Luca also doesn't win all the time, we have one ending where he clearly lost because he failed to corrupt Laura. He caused bunch of suffering to them but lost in the end. But people find that unsatisfying, My guess is that is because Harry is not holding victory flag there. There also will be good ending so another loss for him? But again this will probably not be the revenge or absolute win some people want.

Where does he understand her? He put it into her head by bringing her to orgasm multiple times! He made a stupid whore out of her with the help of his "magical" cock! She loved Harry, she be with him for more than a year, if something didn’t suit her in bed, she could tell him about it or take the initiative - but this is ntr story - it's just a cliché
"I know you better than your husband or your love and I will prove it to you with the help of my Dick!"
That's all!

It's about Harry not understanding Laura. Luca may have magic dick as you would expect in ntr game but that is not enough to break Laura. Laura only breaks when she no longer can believe in Harry. That is the crack Luca drills into, so him understanding Laura should be seen as knowing where the cracks are.

 

[mzer0]

This is not role playing game where you expect the game to cover variety of options one may chose to solve a situation. This is ntr game with clear intention on satisfying various ways people enjoy ntr, that what the routes are for.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding that seeing some karma at the end of all the cucking and injustice is one of 'various ways' in which people enjoy this genre?

 

[Y.Gromov]

This is not role playing game where you expect the game to cover variety of options one may chose to solve a situation. This is ntr game with clear intention on satisfying various ways people enjoy ntr, that what the routes are for.

Luca also doesn't win all the time, we have one ending where he clearly lost because he failed to corrupt Laura. He caused bunch of suffering to them but lost in the end. But people find that unsatisfying, My guess is that is because Harry is not holding victory flag there. There also will be good ending so another loss for him? But again this will probably not be the revenge or absolute win some people want.

It's about Harry not understanding Laura. Luca may have magic dick as you would expect in ntr game but that is not enough to break Laura. Laura only breaks when she no longer can believe in Harry. That is the crack Luca drills into, so him understanding Laura should be seen as knowing where the cracks are.

Luca led Laura to this conclusion! To the conclusion that Harry does not "understand" her - because he is blind and does not see what is happening to her - what happens to her because of Luka!
If we had the choice to behave one way or another in obvious situations - like the one when Laura gave Luka a blowjob in the toilet: for example - let Harry wait until she opens the door, demand her to open the door, knock down the door or go into the next cubicle, stand on the toilet and see what is happening in the cubicle where Laura supposedly feels "bad"! But it's not in the game!
Harry just wanted to be the best in order to achieve, what he thought was the ideal, in the face of Laura, and Luka gradually led Laura to the fact that Harry did not understand her through multiple sexual acts, argasms, etc. Luka changed her mind!
The sensible Laura would never think "bad" of Harry and never do "things" to him. Just a "magic" cock made her addicted to a "big cock", multiple orgasms! She stopped thinking rationally, she betrayed love for a big cock!
Harry is such a character who is blind, so he does not understand the obvious points!
Luka is to blame for all this!
Since this is an NTR game, we have no choice to do otherwise!

 

[MasksDude]

To think I was actually more relieve that Laura was fcking Harry on the recent update than Aya getting groped just speaks to it. I like NTR but the game has (recent updates) for me has just not been it.

it's been more Harry getting bullied in this story than trying to Luca fuck his wife/gf and not more on NTR "hot scenes", I also like dark NTR but this is not for me sadly ( anyways just expressing another mans opinions and it's HCs story to tell and it's all in his hands what's gone happen now to Ayas route

 

[rhcp725]

If you are referring to the clumsy hero ending where it comes to Luca losing i completely disagree with that. Luca's main goal is the torment/destruction of Harry. He still achieved what he set out to do thus it is not a loss for him. He became a martyr for his cause and didn't get to enjoy absolute victory but he definitely didn't lose. Just like every other ending the result was the same, Harry lost Luca won Laura fell.

But how can Luca win if he's dead? Simple for Luca to win Harry's life must be ruined. Well let's see Harry's reputation at work destroyed ✔ Laura having fallen and even if she avoids jail being so mind broken that she couldn't accept still being with Harry ✔. Face it he won just like every other path.

 

[Terix3]

Why do you have such a hard time understanding that seeing some karma at the end of all the cucking and injustice is one of 'various ways' in which people enjoy this genre?

X for doubt.
But anyway the fundamental problem is not the way people enjoy the game but when they claim the game is bad because it doesn't appease to what they want to see. "It has all those routes it must have this one as well!"

Luca led Laura to this conclusion! To the conclusion that Harry does not "understand" her - because he is blind and does not see what is happening to her - what happens to her because of Luka!
If we had the choice to behave one way or another in obvious situations - like the one when Laura gave Luka a blowjob in the toilet: for example - let Harry wait until she opens the door, demand her to open the door, knock down the door or go into the next cubicle, stand on the toilet and see what is happening in the cubicle where Laura supposedly feels "bad"! But it's not in the game!
Harry just wanted to be the best in order to achieve, what he thought was the ideal, in the face of Laura, and Luka gradually led Laura to the fact that Harry did not understand her through multiple sexual acts, argasms, etc. Luka changed her mind!
The sensible Laura would never think "bad" of Harry and never do "things" to him. Just a "magic" cock made her addicted to a "big cock", multiple orgasms! She stopped thinking rationally, she betrayed love for a big cock!
Harry is such a character who is blind, so he does not understand the obvious points!
Luka is to blame for all this!
Since this is an NTR game, we have no choice to do otherwise!

No, the very testimony to Harry not understanding Laura is the titular promise. The difference is that while previously Laura was fine with it as she wanted to become the mask she was wearing, under Luca influence that mask become unbearable and she needed Harry to understand her.
Wanting Harry to realize he is getting cucked is something totally different from understanding Laura. Understanding Laura would be coming at the start when first Luca shows up and telling her that he doesn't care about the job but her and if she sees any sign of Luca ill intentions they need to quit the job.

If you are referring to the clumsy hero ending where it comes to Luca losing i completely disagree with that. Luca's main goal is the torment/destruction of Harry. He still achieved what he set out to do thus it is not a loss for him. He became a martyr for his cause and didn't get to enjoy absolute victory but he definitely didn't lose. Just like every other ending the result was the same, Harry lost Luca won Laura fell.

But how can Luca win if he's dead? Simple for Luca to win Harry's life must be ruined. Well let's see Harry's reputation at work destroyed ✔ Laura having fallen and even if she avoids jail being so mind broken that she couldn't accept still being with Harry ✔. Face it he won just like every other path.

All good that ends well. Luca story ends and Harrys doesn't therefore Harry wins and Luca loses. Laura didn't fell wtf. Harry reputation at work would be instantly restored when word gets out Luca was abusing Laura and Harry was the only one that seen through him.

 

[Y.Gromov]

No, the very testimony to Harry not understanding Laura is the titular promise. The difference is that while previously Laura was fine with it as she wanted to become the mask she was wearing, under Luca influence that mask become unbearable and she needed Harry to understand her.
Wanting Harry to realize he is getting cucked is something totally different from understanding Laura. Understanding Laura would be coming at the start when first Luca shows up and telling her that he doesn't care about the job but her and if she sees any sign of Luca ill intentions they need to quit the job.

Work for that it work - it can and often does not like the majority - what is there to understand?
Luca fucked Laura - Laura walks all sad, realizing that this is not their last time. Harry doesn't see it. Well, or he sees, but noneas have no way to influence it! Then Luca asked her - Well, Harry didn't even notice that you had changed? He doesn't understand what a real woman needs!? He doesn't understand you!?
Luca planted in her a seed of doubt in Harry, gradually turning her into a whore and corrupting her! After almost every act of sex, or even during time - he asks her to think badly about Harry and talk nasty things about him! The grain sprouts!!! And Laura is no longer herself, she is led by Luka, she thinks how he wants and does whatever he wants!
Work is a minuscule aspect! Harry doesn't understand her in this job situation because Laura never told him anything about it!
And Luka has not only have a "magical" dick, but also a sharp nose for Laura's problems.
I say it's just an NTR cliché!