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Gudil

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And us who enjoy this kink hate them as well.

The only good ending is Laura and Aya making the pathetic Harry kill himself, and he fails, of course, because he's a useless piece of shit.
The way you say it looks like every and each person who likes ntr hate them. I don't. I like games who have both types of ending, wholesome and corruption. I Always like to play both routes.
 

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The way you say it looks like every and each person who likes ntr hate them. I don't. I like games who have both types of ending, wholesome and corruption. I Always like to play both routes.
true it adds more flavor but this type of game is pure hardcore ntr so asking for a real good ending in a game like this is like asking for a ntr ending in a pure vanilla game which is retarded also the ppl who want harry to suffer like crazy or kill himself definitely have some mental issues
 
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xeratzy

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anyone that can tell me what ending i'm missing for these scenes?
 

ZUBiDAM

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anyone that can tell me what ending i'm missing for these scenes?
normal aya, abrubt aya, clumsy aya, fallen aya- in that order, if you complete the aya route ending you will be able to see them and jump to them in the ending selection.
 
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Lara Snow

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normal aya, abrubt aya, clumsy aya, fallen aya- in that order, of you complete the aya route ending you will be able to see them and jump to them in the ending selection.
What's the one with the pink hair girl? Is that Maya?
 

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Anyone else having trouble with the 1.0 ver for mac? im getting a "The application “APromiseBestLeftUnkept” can’t be opened." error
 

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HangoverCat You might want to add "Recommended" hint when starting a new game, i made a correct decision and went through all endings of Harry's POV first before all POVs playthrough but the starting screen only lists downsides.
 

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Anyone else having trouble with the 1.0 ver for mac? im getting a "The application “APromiseBestLeftUnkept” can’t be opened." error
for me i had to do several things, it was not set up properly.

First move these files(screenshot 1) into the resource section in the app, to get there double click on the app and select "show package contents"

second screenshot, you need the files in MacOS to be Unix executable files like i have. To do that go to terminal type

chmod +x

Space bar at the end of that, then select the files that not unix executable drag them there.
 
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Lara Snow

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The problem with Laura is that she becomes LESS sexy the more you play.
But she had great foundation.
It's just hard to get some jealousy for a girl, who HATES her boyfriend. That's simply not how jealousy works.

Aya is a crowd favorite (for now) because she actually crazy in love with Harry.
So people want to see her NTRed - precisely because of that. Because of contrast.
For now.
She'll start hating Harry and it would be the same as with Laura.

More hate => less jealousy.
More love => more jealousy.
It's that simple.
You are missing the point of NTR. This is not Netorase, they turning their hearts against Harry is the sexiest form of corruption. It's him who still has to love them. Not the girls, they have to despise him.
 

abirvg

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You are missing the point of NTR. This is not Netorase, they turning their hearts against Harry is the sexiest form of corruption. It's him who still has to love them. Not the girls, they have to despise him.
Point of NTR is Jealousy.
Just like the point of Romance is Love, the point of Horror is Fear, the point of Action is Hype.
One single emotion.
...Or a group of emotions, if you want to be nitpicky about it.

If a girl despising the man while cheating on him makes you MORE jealous - then that's what matters.
Don't let anyone take that away from you. You are here for that emotion and you've got it.

I'm feeling the exact opposite.
And I'm just trying to explain why I feel that way. While 'maybe' uncovering some useful rules about human emotions and storytelling.

1) "The girl despises her boyfriend and BECAUSE of it she cheats on him."
2) "The girl just cheats on her boyfriend."
3) "The girl loves her boyfriend to the death, but DESPITE it she can't stop cumming while cheating."

1) No contrast.
I have no idea what she even feeling during sex. Is it good? Is it bad? Is it just a normal sex? Or her craving's on the level of craving for a cake in the early morning?
I don't know.
There's no contrast. There's nothing to compare to - because she's losing nothing with this cheating.

Imagine if when Romeo met Juliette their families were best buddies.
Would that make a better story? What would you be able to tell about their love? Is it as scorching as the sun or is it just another one of these ball meets? Will they love each other for the rest of their lives or will they get bored in a week?
Who knows. I sure don't.

2) Weak contrast.
It's akin to incest: "I kinda shouldn't, but I kinda want to."
it makes the feeling a bit stronger, but generally good stories will add something on top of that. Though it's still an easy way to spice things up a bit. And it is working.
Hence both cheating and incest are quite numerous - but the ones that stand out are the stories that throwing something more into the mix.

3) Strong contrast.
If the girl sacrifices cake to get a cookie - it means her craving for the cookie is at least a bit stronger than her feelings for the cake.
Cookie>Cake.
So the stronger her feelings for the cake we make - the stronger we can feel her craving for the cookie.
If Cake=10, then Cookie>=11.
If we'll be able to show that Cake=1000, then Cookie is at least a 1001.
The cheating sex feels BETTER the more she loves her boyfriend. (for the reader)

Now.
If the girl sucks a cock DESPITE her love - that means her craving for this cock is AT LEAST a bit stronger then that love.
But if she sucks a cock BECAUSE she doesn't have that love no more - erm, then what? She's just a woman who sucks a cock.
What you want me to feel about her?

...And she's having a shitty attitude by 'despising' her boyfriend on top of that - but that doesn't really matter. We're here not for moral-policing.
It's just if there's nothing else to feel about her - she's "just a woman who sucks cock" - then that's the only thing left for me to feel about her.
Shitty.

Again, Laura's foundation is incredible. If it wasn't I wouldn't be here writing this wall of text. It's just her character development is worse then it was at the start.
And it should be the other way around.
You don't put work to feel less.
 

Lara Snow

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Point of NTR is Jealousy.
The point of NTR is the sense of 'lose'. That's why there is childhood friend, Mom and Sister NTR as well.

It has to do with betrayal, male paranoia, female corruption, and many flavours. Thankfully Japanese people aren't simple, that's why they invented so many wonderful (and others not so much) kinks.

Jelousy is more of a thing of Netorase really, that's where it really takes the spotlight.
 

Chinel

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Honestly the question I make myself is.
Imagine some other mafia type that crushes on Harry, but instead of trying to get his love like Aya...goes straight to threats, kidnapping and shit because "Oh wait, I forgot. I can FORCE YOU!"

I see Aya going full 'MAIM.KILL.DESTROY', which would be cool.
Aya is great when she is causing devastation and chaos.

I wonder about Laura, thought.
She already thinks she can have two lovers, but I find fun how when Aya kills Luca she is just "Ah he ded. Bad" and seems more worried about the idea of Harry killing someone.

That not forgetting she has murderboner tendencies.

Luca would be laughing of course.

The point of NTR is the sense of 'lose'. That's why there is childhood friend, Mom and Sister NTR as well.


It has to do with betrayal, male paranoia, female corruption, and many flavours. Thankfully Japanese people aren't simple, that's why they invented so many wonderful (and others not so much) kinks.


Jelousy is more of a thing of Netorase really, that's where it really takes the spotlight.
Honestly I don't get the idea of losing something being pleasurable. I mean, you marry with someone wanting the relationship to go wrong? If there is a degree of honesty, then...why would the relationship even exist?
 
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abirvg

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The point of NTR is the sense of 'lose'. That's why there is childhood friend, Mom and Sister NTR as well.

It has to do with betrayal, male paranoia, female corruption, and many flavours. Thankfully Japanese people aren't simple, that's why they invented so many wonderful (and others not so much) kinks.

Jelousy is more of a thing of Netorase really, that's where it really takes the spotlight.
Th-...
That's still jealousy.
There's no NTR where "childhood friend, mom or sister" clearly wasn't a love interest of the MC.
At least I didn't... saw a single one?
 

Lara Snow

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Honestly the question I make myself is.
Imagine some other mafia type that crushes on Harry, but instead of trying to get his love like Aya...goes straight to threats, kidnapping and shit because "Oh wait, I forgot. I can FORCE YOU!"

I see Aya going full 'MAIM.KILL.DESTROY', which would be cool.
Aya is great when she is causing devastation and chaos.

I wonder about Laura, thought.
She already thinks she can have two lovers, but I find fun how when Aya kills Luca she is just "Ah he ded. Bad" and seems more worried about the idea of Harry killing someone.

That not forgetting she has murderboner tendencies.

Luca would be laughing of course.



Honestly I don't get the idea of losing something being pleasurable. I mean, you marry with someone wanting the relationship to go wrong? If there is a degree of honesty, then...why would the relationship even exist?
This is a kink for masochist men and sadist women. Don't look at it with a vanilla eye. Let alone from the male perspective only.

Nothing is more lustful than cheating. And lust gets me going, losing myself on pleasure. As simple as that. No thinking, just feeling.

I can't speak for the men who enjoy that masochist anxiety, but they exist, there's a big reason the genre took over Japan like a storm and even poured outside of it.


Let me ask you a question myself: What's the point of the same boring male mc harem snoozefest? To each their own...
 

Chinel

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This is a kink for masochist men and sadist women. Don't look at it with a vanilla eye. Let alone from the male perspective only.
I mean, sadism for me is like...taking a knife and carving something on the guy's skin and then slowly making him bleed to death.
Or searing him alive.
Or slicing his skin off.

Or since we discuss about the feeling of misery and despair, perhaps something like...
Well, killing his parents?
Dunno, brings despair and that is part of the thing, right? So a masochist would like that?

Mind you, I am trying to understand, so sorry if it is extreme examples.
Nothing is more lustful than cheating. And lust gets me going, losing myself on pleasure. As simple as that. No thinking, just feeling.
Hm, right, so that is more about losing oneself to the pleasure and...the feeling of tricking someone else? Would this be about feeling above someone else?
I can't speak for the men who enjoy that masochist anxiety, but they exist, there's a big reason the genre took over Japan like a storm and even poured outside of it.
Might need to talk with a masochist to understand them. Is there someone in this site that you might know?
Let me ask you a question myself: What's the point of the same boring male mc harem snoozefest? To each their own...
Miss. I hate the harem genre. First because there is a disgusting lack of bi male elements, I would love an harem with also males in it, it would be novel.

Also, the fact that the characters are less characters and more 'look, pretty girl', and nothing. Could as well bring a cardboard and call it a day.

Also the fact they do not develop the damn MCs and the damn haremmetes. Learn to write, morons. Good writing gets me hard.

Also the fact it is all centered in a single character.
What? Can't it be polyamory no? What the hell. That is also why the whole 'buh what if MC is a ALPHA CHAD' doesn't buy me. It won't change the dynamics, it will be the same thing, except that MC now might make a girl wet as well.
 

Gnoomoos

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Th-...
That's still jealousy.
There's no NTR where "childhood friend, mom or sister" clearly wasn't a love interest of the MC.
At least I didn't... saw a single one?
There are plenty of such NTR games for example for mom NTR and Or games with mom heroines if you are looking for something in english. Sure maybe at some point protag may get aroused by seeing their mom being defiled but at no point they tried to actually pursue her as love interest or even thinking about her in that way iirc.
Its just westerners for some reason wants to turn everything into harems even with family members hence so many incest games here (nothing wrong with those btw)

Point of NTR is not just jealousy but also loss and betrayal. Jealousy is main aspect of NTS, where no matter what happens - heroine will stay with protag. Sure in some games NTR may turn into NTS in one of the endings/routes and vice versa but the game cant be equally NTR and NTS at the same time, one thing will always be "primary" focus and other "secondary". I noticed that many (or some) people want to have "safe" NTR but its just Netorase with extra steps as "NTR" cant be "safe" by definition.

On unrelated note. HC posted first CG preview on his patreon, heroes are always welcome.

Also for some reason my APBLU started to reset my in-game settings, gallery progress & read text every time i lunch it, saves are loading fine but text in those would be marked as unread. I tried to clear both in game save folders and in appdata\roaming\renpy folders but it didn't solve it. Maybe somebody here had encounter similar problem.
 
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