Last time i checked Sumatra 3D was not the only Patron to not just accept that there isn't opportunity for the VN to be better. Supporting the project does not require blind worship of flawed product that has potential to be better. There is nothing wrong with wanting the best out of the experience. I'm not here demanding HC change his game to cater to what i want. I've just given fair criticism of where it can be improved. No fan should ever turn a blind eye and accept that status quo is good enough when the opportunity for better exists. Why should we be limited to good enough if better can be attained. The second you stop trying to improve is the moment where things turn for the worst. If you think this iteration is the best the story can be i feel bad for your ability to comprehend why its not. Hopefully you will realize I'm right before it's too late but I'm not gonna hold my breath. Have a nice day.
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Flawed product = it doesnt have the endings I want it to have, nice, thats 999 iq logic right there
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Hey bruh chill out ... It's just my stupid opinion on this matter... And i did mention... That "No Offence to anyone" and if this make u feel hurt ... Ur Weak feelings ... Then i am sorry buddy ... For your info ... I do love this AVN .. thats why I am here commenting and providing my opinions ... And again literally "no offense to anybody"
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Can't even i give my opinion on the matter ? And isn't evryone have right of speech here ? And bro ... I don't hate this game at all ... Infact i am here commenting and giving my stupid opinions ... " No offense to u or to anybody "
- Aug 30, 2022
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Good ending is still not even started working out by DEV ?? Isn't it ... and something happened to 3rd girl ... How to unlock her gallery ??
Endings i want? First off endings require an actual end not just a stopping point before any form of resolution occurs. Also if a story has different branching paths the end result should also have variance. If all paths lead to the same place of Luca wins, Laura breaks and Harry loses then what was the point of different paths to begin with. I have never demanded that the story goes a certain way just that it completes the way it went in a way unique to the path it took. If the intent was just to have the same outcome every time it's a waste of the potential the story had to begin with. I just want a complete narrative and don't think I'm asking too much.
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We aren't going to get the endings that we want. We are going to get the endings we need. Life is a hopeless exercise in futility and entropy. We must be educated. Embrace the suck and enjoy the ride down to the final depths of utter despair and hopelessness that this game represents.
why are deciding by yourself how all the endings will end, you don't know yet
i think the hero ending which has 2 variations, will actually end with laura winning against luca in one of the variations
and the good ending might actually gonna be an abrupt good ending for harry
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I read the argument about endings...
I'll add my five cents: any of the conventionally good endings, such as "normal" or "hero," are bad endings in my opinion.
Why?
Simply because there was a fait accompli of prolonged cheating. But it's not even that, it's the fact that Laura has had a profound psychological change of personality that matters. Whereas in the "normal" ending this is obvious to any blind person, in the "hero" ending Laura sort of "wins" Luke at his game.
No she doesn't, it's just that Laura doesn't become Luca's plaything, but there's no question of "winning." Because simply comparing the importance of satisfaction in bed to Laura's personality "before" "playing" with Luca and "after," it's highly likely that, even if not with Luca, Laura will cheat on Harry again at the first "opportunity," justifying herself with violence/blackmail or any other plausible pretext.
Among the really good endings for Harry personally are two:
- Is a relationship with Aya, provided the latter doesn't take Laura's place in Luca's games;
- And the unlikely option if at the very beginning, literally in the first days of the blackmail, Laura honestly confesses everything to Harry about forcing her to have sex with Luca and the reasons why it happened, and they find a way to get out from under the blackmail together.
In the latter case, I believe that Laura's confession must happen before their first "date" with Luca this coming Friday. Since Laura, in fact, is now betraying Harry twice:
- The first time by not trusting him, there was a scene literally in the first days of forced cheating, when the heroine wanted to confess in thought, but pretended in words to be okay;
- The second time Laura betrays Harry during her "date" with Luca on Friday (albeit involuntarily), when she begins to take physical pleasure in being forced and enjoying the situation she finds herself in, from that moment on the option of "confessing everything to Harry herself" is in my opinion completely impossible, because Laura begins to sink into "playing by Luca's rules". In which the winner can only be the antoghanist, the only question is the degree to which he wins.
I am, of course, judging from my own experience and understanding. What do you think?)
Sorry for my bad English =)
I'll add my five cents: any of the conventionally good endings, such as "normal" or "hero," are bad endings in my opinion.
Why?
Simply because there was a fait accompli of prolonged cheating. But it's not even that, it's the fact that Laura has had a profound psychological change of personality that matters. Whereas in the "normal" ending this is obvious to any blind person, in the "hero" ending Laura sort of "wins" Luke at his game.
No she doesn't, it's just that Laura doesn't become Luca's plaything, but there's no question of "winning." Because simply comparing the importance of satisfaction in bed to Laura's personality "before" "playing" with Luca and "after," it's highly likely that, even if not with Luca, Laura will cheat on Harry again at the first "opportunity," justifying herself with violence/blackmail or any other plausible pretext.
Among the really good endings for Harry personally are two:
- Is a relationship with Aya, provided the latter doesn't take Laura's place in Luca's games;
- And the unlikely option if at the very beginning, literally in the first days of the blackmail, Laura honestly confesses everything to Harry about forcing her to have sex with Luca and the reasons why it happened, and they find a way to get out from under the blackmail together.
In the latter case, I believe that Laura's confession must happen before their first "date" with Luca this coming Friday. Since Laura, in fact, is now betraying Harry twice:
- The first time by not trusting him, there was a scene literally in the first days of forced cheating, when the heroine wanted to confess in thought, but pretended in words to be okay;
- The second time Laura betrays Harry during her "date" with Luca on Friday (albeit involuntarily), when she begins to take physical pleasure in being forced and enjoying the situation she finds herself in, from that moment on the option of "confessing everything to Harry herself" is in my opinion completely impossible, because Laura begins to sink into "playing by Luca's rules". In which the winner can only be the antoghanist, the only question is the degree to which he wins.
I am, of course, judging from my own experience and understanding. What do you think?)
Sorry for my bad English =)
- Sep 13, 2017
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Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if HC includes a joke ending during next year April update with how crazy the discussion are getting xD
Think Silent Hill dog/aliens endings xD
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"Luca, incriminating USB drive in hand, is walking home triumphant, but he takes one overconfident step into the street and into the path of an oncoming truck driven by a Shiba Inu."
We get a single CG of Luca waking up in an isekai setting.
- Sep 13, 2017
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"Luca has stolen Laura, Aya, Sandra and Maya away from Harry, this latest conquest feels like the crown jewel to his manliness and proof of his charm, little does he know it works a little too well until fateful night he wakes up tied to a table with little grey ladies surrounding him, tools beyond human undertanding in their many apendices and clear blushes on their faces....."
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Whoever said they were in Laura's office is wrong. They are clearly in a bedroom in this scene. Most likely, Luca's.
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The real question is if Laura's expression is one of doubt, regret, etc? Certainly the only semi positive one it could be is she beign shy but i somehow doubt she could make a shy expression unless she is faking it at this point xD
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To me, the expression on her face looks like resignation. Like, she doesn't really like what's happening, but she's accepted it. We'll have to wait and see, though.
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My opinion:
The branch to a good ending should start from one scenes very beginning of the game. Probably when Laura and Harry first time meet Luka, and when they smoke and talk privately, there should be a choice in perspective for Harry to "Tell Laura in detail about the events in high school" (about the fate of Maya).
Further, this act of trust will probably encourage Laura herself, literally in the first evenings of forced sex with Luka, to confess about the situation with blackmail (there was even a scene from Laura's perspective, when she thinks about telling Harry everything honestly, but does not dare) .
This would probably be the shortest branch of events (unless dev add some other circumstances). And probably the least painful for the consequences for Laura-Harry couple.
All in all, I'm impressed. The game is very difficult psychologically, but that's why it's good (or maybe I imagine myself in a similar situation too well).
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In a situation like this, the only thing that would stop me personally from slamming the door right in my ex's face would be my grown daughter.
I think the guy stopped the same.
So yes, rose-colored glasses are sometimes worth taking off.
That would be like putting ending after prologue. This is more than good ending - this is vanilla or pure ending that you desire.
I think such ending here would be ... lame. I want the characters to overcome the obstacles not avoid them. It is already enough that in your average game girl having a partner other then MC is a taboo and stigma that inhibits devs creativity. I think here we can accept a more "difficult" good ending.
They say that true love forgives everything.