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[AverageHalfwit]

I wouldn't spend too much time thinking too hard about Harry's character. I haven't played the most recent update, but I've had it thoroughly spoiled for me and it sounds like Harry's character development throughout the entire story gets completely thrown out the window in the name of reaching a 'porn logic' ending.

That's just my take, though. YMMV when you play it yourself. Surely, a lot of people here are going to love it.

(Edit: And, to be fair, my opinion may change once I actually see it for myself (doubtful). But as of now, based off of what I've heard, I'm not really looking forward to it.)

Forgive me for not going into detail, but you'll see for yourself in a few days anyway.

I don't care that much about the endings. Or not exactly having any expectations. For me, the base story, before the endings, was quite organically developed and fluent and even a bit innovative; but the endings were (again, just for me) of uneven quality: the vanilla ones were well executed but not exactly original, the Abrupt ending was incomplete (not vague, which can be a good thing - leaving blanks in a story for the reader to fill in can be good practice - but plain old unfinished), while the Hero endings are just trying too much to be everything at once that it becomes mostly a mess.

 

[mzer0]

I agree with you.I haven't played the since the vanila ending and i played only from Harry's perspective.But i follow the forum and read the spoilers so i keep in touch with the game and it felt that as main character is mediocre.

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.My only question is that i had a feeling that Luca is somewhat obsessed with Harry am i right or not?

You're right. Luca wants to make Harry miserable to prove that his idealistic way of viewing the world is wrong. This all stems from Luca's intense mommy issues. You could play the 'Clumsy Hero' ending if you want to know more...

 

[mzer0]

I don't care that much about the endings. Or not exactly having any expectations. For me, the base story, before the endings, was quite organically developed and fluent and even a bit innovative; but the endings were (again, just for me) of uneven quality: the vanilla ones were not exactly original, the Abrupt ending was incomplete (not vague, which can be a good thing - leaving blanks in a story for the reader to fill in can be good practice - but plain old unfinished), while the Hero endings are just trying too much to be everything at once that it becomes mostly a mess.

I thoroughly enjoyed the build up as well, but the endings matter to me. Even if they are all bad (as in 'unhappy') ones, I still want them to make sense.

My mistake, I guess.

Edit: I have to keep reminding myself that I haven't played it yet. I guess I still have some hope in that regard...

 

[NTR Sommelier]

And by the way, if Laura is so smart why didn't she exploit the rules system in her favor? Even though she is at a disadvantage because women can have multiple orgasms whereas men have a refractory period, it's way easier to make a man cum, and she had many options where she could make Luca cum with minimal chance of her cumming herself (e.g. handjob, blowjob, titjob, footjob ,etc.) therefore she could easily stacked rules against him very quickly.

 

[mzer0]

And by the way, if Laura is so smart why didn't she exploit the rules system in her favor? Even though she is at a disadvantage because women can have multiple orgasms whereas men have a refractory period, it's way easier to make a man cum, and she had many options where she could make Luca cum with minimal chance of her cumming herself (e.g. handjob, blowjob, titjob, footjob ,etc.) therefore she could easily stacked rules against him very quickly.

Luca is equipped with Mythic Plot Armor+100 (most of the time).

This has been known for quite a while.

 

[rhcp725]

Because the only one who followed the rules was Laura. Luca cheated left and right and got away with it because porn logic/plot armor. Problems i had with the rule system as presented.

Whenever Laura made a rule Luca didn't accept the rule as made and tweaked it so it could be exploited. However whatever rule Luca made was exactly what he stated without Laura being given the same privilege.

On top of that there were scenes where Laura should have received countless rules but came out with basically nothing if not less than she had going in. If you look at the end of some of the long sessions they had there are countless used condoms spread across the room. Each one of those should represent a rule Laura earned yet she didn't get all those rules.

Finally when Luca breaks any of the rules Laura is supposed to get 3 days off yet with the amount of times Luca broke the rules Laura should have been done with the month long before breaking. But that would go against the ntr porn logic story be damned.

 

[Terix3]

also stop expecting realism in porn games.

 

[inye59]

also stop expecting realism in porn games.

well i agree with you as long as the creator doesn't want a realistic approach in his work

 

[rhcp725]

The rules system was brought up so i gave my honest opinion on it. Just because my thoughts on it differ from yours shouldn't discount fair criticism. The rule system was a great mechanic that failed because it wasn't taken seriously. Just saying its a porn game relax is a cop out for the massive amounts of plot holes created by the issues with following what the rules should have meant. The story should matter yet when it comes down to it the story always comes second to porn logic. There are a lot of people that care about what comes in between the fap content yet people continuously attack those who do care because of different opinions. I'm not condemning the fap content so why should i be ridiculed for liking what comes in between. There is room for both porn/story yet those who like the story part are wrong because it conflicts with others beliefs.

 

[Terix3]

well i agree with you as long as the creator doesn't want a realistic approach in his work

It is people that don't want realism. Realism is brought up as criticism when people don't agree with something. They don't complain that harem MC got plot armor. In this story none complains how Harry being deeply in love with Laura can't push away Aya, then is infatuated by Sandra.

 

[Animefan_09]

also stop expecting realism in porn games.

If we wanted realism Harry is fucked because even if he does somethign to Luca Luca would just have him killed, or his family would out of pride.

Hell he would jusy pump Laura full of drugs and have be raped until she is broken down, shit like that does happen in RL

 

[MasksDude]

Honestly, just my opinion Im just tryna see someone get cuck in a story but why has it got down deeper now lmao. its ruining the game for me. its an ntr game not some novel shit
Im just tryna reccommend some good ntr scenes thats hot
we got people feeling bad for harry, we got laura supporters, we got luca haters that bring so many deeper meaning to another level of what the characters feel, why not just enjoy the game if you like this category. like get a life lmao no offense to you people

 

[rangabang]

Honestly, just my opinion Im just tryna see someone get cuck in a story but why has it got down deeper now lmao. its ruining the game for me. its an ntr game not some novel shit
Im just tryna reccommend some good ntr scenes thats hot
we got people feeling bad for harry, we got laura supporters, we got luca haters that bring so many deeper meaning to another level of what the characters feel, why not just enjoy the game if you like this category. like get a life lmao no offense to you people

Its an ntr visual novel, of course its "some novel shit"

 

[UmbraPenumbra]

Spolier Cg?

 

[DreamsWarArt]

And by the way, if Laura is so smart why didn't she exploit the rules system in her favor? Even though she is at a disadvantage because women can have multiple orgasms whereas men have a refractory period, it's way easier to make a man cum, and she had many options where she could make Luca cum with minimal chance of her cumming herself (e.g. handjob, blowjob, titjob, footjob ,etc.) therefore she could easily stacked rules against him very quickly.

I assume because it's not an "What If?" RPG with 1001 choice, but a mostly kinetic novel with a little choices, and it tells the story. Story like if it could happen like that and not in another way, because if it was in another way it would be a completely different story, that's all. There is such thing like a plot armor in any movie/media product, because if main hero will dive or won't make this or another move the story won't work in the way it was writen.

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

I'm not condemning the fap content so why should i be ridiculed for liking what comes in between. There is room for both porn/story yet those who like the story part are wrong because it conflicts with others beliefs.

What comes in between is part of the fap content. Exploring sexual themes through storytelling is how a context dependent fetish like NTR is delivered. Even the rule based system is an elaborate way to maintain a reason for the disconnect between Laura's mind and actions.

Separating eroticism from storytelling in an erotic visual novel like this 1 doesn't make sense to me. Ideally people will enjoy the sex scenes because of the bits that connect them and the scenes themselves will progress the story. I think more valid criticisms would target how to keep the narrative stimulating instead.

 

[emmanul]

Does anyone have a link for 8.0. thank you.

 

[d8games]

ANY HERO PLEASE

 

[inye59]

w8 and patience must have.. hangover always post after 5-7 days

 

[d8games]

OMG