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[Terix3]

So Aya and Laura getting corrupted by Luca can always be rhetorically justified while Harry simply getting fed up with Laura and going with Aya cannot?

So you want reverse ntr or you want MC to dump Laura for Aya ? Because those are different things.
Also you are comparing Laura that is being blackmailed and corrupted by Luca with Harry that would cheat on his own will ...

If this thread is any indiciation I would say plenty of people want it. And it's not like I'm proposing to fit every possible ntr route, a route in which Harry does with Aya is something the story clearly makes you expect, it's not some random out of left field request. The pretext is there, the build up is there, the public feedback is there.

This is a case of vocal minority. Not to mention there are people here that haunt this thread and jump on every possibility to criticize it.

Personally I'm happy to just have any Aya content, ntr included, since I like her better and Laura is saturated. But I just think an outcome in which Harry ends up with her would feel more satisfying and make more sense for the game at this point in development, for reasons already mentioned.

Aya should be separate game really, she had no meaningful presence in the ntr aspect, we barely know her, if she wouldn't be on the banner you would take her as side character. People want ending with Aya because she has not been spoiled yet. Lets first see what skeletons she hides in the closet.

 

[ZUBiDAM]

Considering he seems to be going after Laura and Aya more to torture Harry than actual libido, I say Harry being happy and uncucked with Aya is a loss for Luca.

i never said Luca won't be going after aya, but reverse ntr with Aya won't necessarily be bad for luca , laura will be the victim, it just means he will go after aya, and he will probably have Laura's help in most routes without the need of a rule, in Laura's perspective, she is suffering for harry and he betrays her first so it's not surprising she might be more of an antagonist in Aya routes, we already know she is very possessive and jealous.

 

[mzer0]

This person is assuming what people mean by karma and likewise I'm addressing in what context people are using karma. It has nothing to do with you, you just jumped in apparently without investigating the context. Bad detective!

Neither I, nor the person you were responding to said that the absence of 'karma' made the story 'bad'. Do you know what a strawman is?
No...Of course you don't. Carry on.

I don't think people play NTR games for karma ending.

LOL!

Yes, there are many in the community who enjoy seeing a little Karma every now and then in between seeing the MC get cucked. You must be new.

All you have to do is read. It's not that hard.


Anyway, enough of you. I'm sure you won't type anything worth reading since you can't be bothered to read what you're responding to.

As far as the story goes, I think it would be fun to see Laura get so caught up in trying to break Aya that she starts spending more time fucking her than she does Harry.

In fact, it would be kind of ironic if her relationship with Harry started to go downhill due to her spending so much time taming Aya. Before, Harry was wondering what was going on between Laura and Luca. This time, he could be wondering why Laura and Aya, who used to hate each other, are suddenly spending so much time together.

It would be even more funny if Laura fully took on the bull role and started leaving Luca out of the loop entirely. But, then again, that might be going a bit too far...

 

[Terix3]

LOL!



All you have to do is read. It's not that hard.


Anyway, enough of you.

You clearly don't understand what context is so off with you.

 

[Shatteredstar]

LOL!



All you have to do is read. It's not that hard.


Anyway, enough of you. I'm sure you won't type anything worth reading since you can't be bothered to read what you're responding to.

As far as the story goes, I think it would be fun to see Laura get so caught up in trying to break Aya that she starts spending more time fucking her than she does Harry.

In fact, it would be kind of ironic if her relationship with Harry started to go downhill due to her spending so much time taming Aya. Before, Harry was wondering what was going on between Laura and Luca. This time, he could be wondering why Laura and Aya, who used to hate each other, are suddenly spending so much time together.

It would be even more funny if Laura fully took on the bull role and started leaving Luca out of the loop entirely. But, then again, that might be going a bit too far...

'Going too far' Laura starting feeding Harry Luca's semen. I'm terribly afraid we have already gone too far. With most of Laura's routes, we have far passed good story. So let's just hit the accelerator and see how far this goes!


I still really like to see good story, once all the sex haze has faded. So far a few routes have delivered. I have high hopes for Aya's routes.

 

[ZUBiDAM]

'Going too far' Laura starting feeding Harry Luca's semen. I'm terribly afraid we have already gone too far. With most of Laura's routes, we have far passed good story. So let's just hit the accelerator and see how far this goes!
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I still really like to see good story, once all the sex haze has faded. So far a few routes have delivered. I have high hopes for Aya's routes.

Don't worry you won't be disappointed, I'm sure aya will feed harry with a 'special' flavor

 

[mzer0]

'Going too far' Laura starting feeding Harry Luca's semen. I'm terribly afraid we have already gone too far. With most of Laura's routes, we have far passed good story. So let's just hit the accelerator and see how far this goes!

I actually meant 'too far' in terms of Laura's character. She's doesn't seem the type to go full butch lesbian dom on Aya. She needed Luca's help to dom her mom, after all. I'm hesitant as to whether she could do it on her own.

But, then again, if Harry can get an erection and turn into a cuck, I guess anything is possible.

I still really like to see good story, once all the sex haze has faded. So far a few routes have delivered. I have high hopes for Aya's routes.

So far, the Family ending is the only one I've actually enjoyed. Clumsy hero comes in second for no other reason than it surprised me. I've come to find that, while I tend to enjoy the build up, I don't really like HC's endings.

May I ask why you have high hopes for Aya's path? Do you know something I don't?

 

[critic specialized in NTR]

I don't know exactly how the thread of everything is going because I was too lazy to play the last update, but you should know that for Aya's story to be relevant to Harry, they first necessarily need to be equivalent about their feelings, that is, I don't know if the option to return Aya's kiss is already in the game, but this should be the route where Harry will be hurt by Aya, where he will start to "betray" his feelings for Laura and put Aya in her place, then we will have Luca knowing that and going to pick up one more of Harry's girlfriends. Honestly I think Aya should have her own game, unless her route is really big, because a lot could be developed here. Also, I wanted to ask one thing, why does Luca do all this exactly? Is there a good explanation for him having this character? I could be almost sure that it's family problems, maybe Luca's mother has been corrupted by some guy and has been fucked in front of little Luca hahha.. I don't doubt anything, psychology shows that something like that could have done Luca who he is in the game.

 

[Traveroro]

So you want reverse ntr or you want MC to dump Laura for Aya ? Because those are different things.
Also you are comparing Laura that is being blackmailed and corrupted by Luca with Harry that would cheat on his own will ...

Just moments ago you were defending the idea of Aya falling for Luca's dick, despite hating his guts and loving Harry, as believable writing. Now you somehow draw a line saying Harry cheating would be too unbelievable. I have to think you are arguing in bad faith if you claim a guy in an increasingly bad relationship doing with a cute girl who loves him, and has been supportive while his wife grows distant, breaks suspension of disbelief more than eroge scenario 101 of good girl going ahegao with dude she despises because his dick is really, really, big. I mean, come on. I'm not even saying I don't get off to the latter, but you are clearly applying double standards.

And dumping the partner for the lover is boilerplate ntr conclusion. Could be Harry cheating at first then eventually choosing to be with Aya.

This is a case of vocal minority.

You don't really know that though. Could just as well be the expression of what a lot of people really want. Occam is on my side here.

Aya should be separate game really, she had no meaningful presence in the ntr aspect, we barely know her, if she wouldn't be on the banner you would take her as side character. People want ending with Aya because she has not been spoiled yet. Lets first see what skeletons she hides in the closet.

Yes, it's almost like the game makes it seem she will be the reverse ntr option and there will be a route in which you chose her.

People knowing her less than Laura isn't really relevant to how much she's liked. If anything, excess of scenes decreases the appeal of a character more often than increases. Aya is cute, charming, has enough scenes for a connection with the player to be built, likes the mc and acted better towards him so far than Laura did; that's more than enough for an interest to be developed. Altars were erected for waifus for much less.

 

[Terix3]

Just moments ago you were defending the idea of Aya falling for Luca's dick, despite hating his guts and loving Harry, as believable writing.

Interesting that I've defended something that is not in game yet. Making jokes about people reactions is not defending.

Now you somehow draw a line saying Harry cheating would be too unbelievable.

Do you know what character is ? We know Harry's character, we don't know Aya's.

I have to think you are arguing in bad faith if you claim a guy in an increasingly bad relationship doing with a cute girl who loves him, and has been supportive while his wife grows distant, breaks suspension of disbelief more than eroge scenario 101 of good girl going ahegao with dude she despises because his dick is really, really, big. I mean, come on. I'm not even saying I don't get off to the latter, but you are clearly applying double standards.

Thats fat considering you compared ealier Laura being blackmailed and forced into cheating with Harry cheating because he ... well i don't really know what would be his reasoning other then lust given in the common part of the game he is not aware of the cheating.

You don't really know that though. Could just as well be the expression of what a lot of people really want. Occam is on my side here.

In last bonus scene poll there was option to give Harry quality time. Given that it was only one such idea ever suggested people should jump on it and it would easily win considering the other votes will be split between 3 other pro cucking options. Well it didn't.

Yes, it's almost like the game makes it seem she will be the reverse ntr option and there will be a route in which you chose her.

People knowing her less than Laura isn't really relevant to how much she's liked. If anything, excess of scenes decreases the appeal of a character more often than increases.

It is very relevant because none have seen her ugly side yet. When Laura was getting her first scenes people were also screaming how "unbelievable" her corruption is.

Aya is cute, charming, has enough scenes for a connection with the player to be built, likes the mc and acted better towards him so far than Laura did; that's more than enough for an interest to be developed. Altars were erected for waifus for much less.

For me Aya is annoying, pretending to be someone she isn't, manipulative. She jumps on the dude that has gf and thinks nothing about possibly destroying his relationship. She collaborates with Luca despite knowing what kind of character he is, she does that for no other reason than her own benefit. She could have easily destroyed Luca's plan, but she didn't because the blackmail was working in her favor. She is a bitch.
I reserve the right to change my opinion as we learn more about her

 

[Traveroro]

Do you know what character is ? We know Harry's character, we don't know Aya's.

Look, drop the pretense. We are playing a porn game, one which by this stage already had all manners of nonsensical plot points written into it for the sake of kink pandering. You are gonna sit here and seriously try to convince me that Harry becoming a willing cuckold in one route or Aya falling for hentai cock in another are any better than Harry x Aya? Options to accept Aya's advances have been in the game since the very beginning, there's foreshadow and build up for it. Please, show me the foreshadow for Harry enjoying to be cucked. It obviously got added for kinky reasons, at the expense of writing. The only reason you draw the line in one and not the other is, as you said yourself, you dislike Aya. Which is fine, but at least be honest.

... well i don't really know what would be his reasoning other then lust given in the common part of the game he is not aware of the cheating.

How about: his wife has been drifting apart, treating him poorly, and humiliated him in front of his subordinates by siding with Luca in the meeting. All while a good looking girl he likes is siding with him on everything, providing emotional support and throwing herself relentlessly. Oh and in her path it clearly show he has feelings for her. But I guess that's not enough pretext for a porn game.

For me Aya is annoying, pretending to be someone she isn't, manipulative. She jumps on the dude that has gf and thinks nothing about possibly destroying his relationship. She collaborates with Luca despite knowing what kind of character he is, she does that for no other reason than her own benefit. She could have easily destroyed Luca's plan, but she didn't because the blackmail was working in her favor. She is a bitch.
I reserve the right to change my opinion as we learn more about her

She could tell the truth to Harry and destroy his relationship at any moment though? If anything her not exposing Luca benefits Laura more than herself. This is even acknowledged in the last update.

I don't think either of them are moral standards(ntr game and all) but anything you could say about Aya can probably be said worse of Laura. So I guess Aya flirts with a married guy because she loves him? She doesn't tell him of what's happening even though it could benefit her do so? Meanwhile Laura feeds him cum coated lunch, humiliates him publically, fucks his bully behind his back and helps said bully drug him out of his mind for her own benefit.
Honestly, even if Aya did all that she still wouldn't be as bad in my estimation just by virtue of a wife being under heavier trust scrutiny than a friend.

Anyway, just my two cents. I am repeating myself at this point and it has grown stale (like Laura). Hope you enjoy the new update/route in whatever way you can (no irony).

 

[FrostArc]

Is all perspective available for Aya route in v0.8.3 ?

 

[MasksDude]

Funny how I feel that Laura is also cheating fcking Harry

 

[Shatteredstar]

Don't worry you won't be disappointed, I'm sure aya will feed harry with a 'special' flavor

That's the best possible screenshot you could've used for that.

I actually meant 'too far' in terms of Laura's character. She's doesn't seem the type to go full butch lesbian dom on Aya. She needed Luca's help to dom her mom, after all. I'm hesitant as to whether she could do it on her own.

But, then again, if Harry can get an erection and turn into a cuck, I guess anything is possible.



So far, the Family ending is the only one I've actually enjoyed. Clumsy hero comes in second for no other reason than it surprised me. I've come to find that, while I tend to enjoy the build up, I don't really like HC's endings.

May I ask why you have high hopes for Aya's path? Do you know something I don't?

Yeah I agree, Harry's reaction in other routes has been some mix of anger and despair. Now, I guess now getting horny and needing Luca's videos to get off? I have high hopes for Aya's routes due to liking the character. I can't decide if it's occam's razor and Aya is just using social 'fronts', or if she has a fractured mind. I base that idea off of the swimsuit phone pics, how different she looks in each, and how she interacts with Harry. Could have great narrative potential. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, maybe she just gets magic dicked, I don't know anything you don't about the story.

If nothing else, Aya's character design has a large butt and thighs. She isn't lacking in her bust, but Hopefully her scenes will emphasize her bottom. Though, that mostly comes from Laura fatigue. Seeing how good Aya is with Harry makes me want her to run off with him. Seeing her do just that in one or so of the endings would be fun, with some level of corruption or not.

Can't say I enjoyed the family ending, but it did checked plenty of boxes. Clumsy Hero was most enjoyable. Laura did what she, in all her grand ego, did what she set out to do, shield Harry from Luca. She succeeds at great personal cost. Her character arc is satisfying in that route. I somewhat like Normal Future and Abrupt Normal for Harry's reactions, but as you say HC fails to stick the landing.

 

[Ombra]

damn the ntr from Aya actually hurts my heart. feels gud

 

[mommysboiii]

Don't worry you won't be disappointed, I'm sure aya will feed harry with a 'special' flavor

look at that sweet angel Aya I gonna cry even thinking about what luca is doing to that sweet angel
I really hope the kiss route has good build we need aya harry build up ,relationship and dates not luca fuck her without build up like last update than ntr is completely pointless

 

[ZUBiDAM]

look at that sweet angel Aya I gonna cry even thinking about what luca is doing to that sweet angel
I really hope the kiss route has good build we need aya harry build up ,relationship and dates not luca fuck her without build up like last update than ntr is completely pointless
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aya is still a not the main focus in this route, also in the good ending, it will probably continue after the choice where you understand laura, in the scene where harry expose himself and shows he does not understand her will be different (in a good way for harry) and route will continue from there i think.
but in aya path the story will be completely different from the first week.
hc wouldn't make an ntr that doesn't make sense so there will definitely be a lot of interaction between aya and harry before luca makes a move, they are probably gonna have sex at least.

 

[darchrow98]

Forgive me for interrupting admist the intense discussion, but can anyone share the preview cg for the upcoming update?

 

[Terix3]

 

[Terix3]

Look, drop the pretense. We are playing a porn game, one which by this stage already had all manners of nonsensical plot points written into it for the sake of kink pandering. You are gonna sit here and seriously try to convince me that Harry becoming a willing cuckold in one route or Aya falling for hentai cock in another are any better than Harry x Aya? Options to accept Aya's advances have been in the game since the very beginning, there's foreshadow and build up for it. Please, show me the foreshadow for Harry enjoying to be cucked. It obviously got added for kinky reasons, at the expense of writing. The only reason you draw the line in one and not the other is, as you said yourself, you dislike Aya. Which is fine, but at least be honest.

Yes It was out of character for him but I let it slide on the back of insanity, he was betrayed three times and guilt trapped - each time there was something he did or didn't that led to the betrayal. At that point it is believable the dude just broke and went insane. His insanity is that he can't trust woman and expects to be betrayed, the only time he can see relief is when that becomes reality. (note: he doesn't tell his new gf to fuck Luca, so he is not exactly willing cuckold, he is just broken).

I believe it is far more important for Harry to be consistent compared to the girls. Luckily this inconsistency is short and only at the very end of a route, but what you are suggesting (reverse ntr) would be very early in route and would take away from other routes in major way. It would put Harry love for Laura in question, after that playing other routes you may see Harry as a cheater that got cheated.

My dislike for Aya doesn't make my points any less invalid. Fundamentally I also dislike people trying to force what HC should write. I was advocating for gangbang scene for Laura but HC said that Luca is not a one to share and I dropped the subject. He also expressed in regards to last bonus scene that it is not consistent with the characters. So i do think HC cares about consistency of characters and whenever he breaks them he tries to provide believable reason for it.

How about: his wife has been drifting apart, treating him poorly, and humiliated him in front of his subordinates by siding with Luca in the meeting. All while a good looking girl he likes is siding with him on everything, providing emotional support and throwing herself relentlessly. Oh and in her path it clearly show he has feelings for her. But I guess that's not enough pretext for a porn game.

Harry had part in distancing Laura from him by pushing her to reconcile with her mother which was clearly something she didn't want to do. Harry also knows Laura is not accepting Lucas proposal of her own will. This is just not enough to justify him cheating, especially given his got trauma of being cheated, there is no way he would hurt another the way he was hurt. That is not who Harry is.

She could tell the truth to Harry and destroy his relationship at any moment though? If anything her not exposing Luca benefits Laura more than herself. This is even acknowledged in the last update.

Who acknowledged this ? Laura I bet? Laura view point is different than Aya's. Laura believes that given more time she will be able to win the game. Meanwhile Aya expects that the further down the rabbit hole Laura goes the less likely is for Harry to forgive her.

I don't think either of them are moral standards(ntr game and all) but anything you could say about Aya can probably be said worse of Laura. So I guess Aya flirts with a married guy because she loves him? She doesn't tell him of what's happening even though it could benefit her do so? Meanwhile Laura feeds him cum coated lunch, humiliates him publically, fucks his bully behind his back and helps said bully drug him out of his mind for her own benefit.
Honestly, even if Aya did all that she still wouldn't be as bad in my estimation just by virtue of a wife being under heavier trust scrutiny than a friend.

You are ignoring how Aya collaborates with Luca. While Laura does horrible things to Harry that is after being blackmailed and brainwashed. Meanwhile Aya sides with Luca willingly i would say Aya is far more of a traitor than Laura is.
Also how do you know that Aya won't be married to Harry and feeding him cum as well? Maybe there will be a competition going between Laura and Aya who can feed Harry more of Lucas cum ?

Anyway, just my two cents. I am repeating myself at this point and it has grown stale (like Laura). Hope you enjoy the new update/route in whatever way you can (no irony).

Yea, same.