RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.8.5b] [Chyos]

[serencyon]

Even that's ignoring the obvious, you'd have to be retarded to not check all the buildings, at least in the starting area.

Considering this game is first and foremost built to be an RPG yeah, that would be the obvious path, but some people could have the tunnel vision to focus only on the porn aspect of the game. Those are the people that could use a little helping hand with the basic concepts, specially at the very beginning.

 

[zARRR]

Considering this game is first and foremost built to be an RPG yeah, that would be the obvious path, but some people could have the tunnel vision to focus only on the porn aspect of the game. Those are the people that could use a little helping hand with the basic concepts, specially at the very beginning.

But then again said argument could be repeated, if you are playing this RPG game made in RPG maker, you decided to download it, knowing fully well of the aspects and tags.
And if you came only for the porn, tunneling everything on the phallic senses and ignoring the whole gameplay and game as a whole, then this game is simply not made for you.
That said there are things that need a rework and are too oblivious even to some seasoned player but not going immediately to Emily’s house at the start is not one of them.

 

[Overlord070]

But then again said argument could be repeated, if you are playing this RPG game made in RPG maker, you decided to download it, knowing fully well of the aspects and tags.
And if you came only for the porn, tunneling everything on the phallic senses and ignoring the whole gameplay and game as a whole, then this game is simply not made for you.
That said there are things that need a rework and are too oblivious even to some seasoned player but not going immediately to Emily’s house at the start is not one of them.

I was about to reply saying something similar.
If you can't be bothered with the RPG aspect in an RPG game then maybe time to play something else.

 

[serencyon]

But then again said argument could be repeated, if you are playing this RPG game made in RPG maker, you decided to download it, knowing fully well of the aspects and tags.
And if you came only for the porn, tunneling everything on the phallic senses and ignoring the whole gameplay and game as a whole, then this game is simply not made for you.
That said there are things that need a rework and are too oblivious even to some seasoned player but not going immediately to Emily’s house at the start is not one of them.

I agree with that, most of my personal issues with the game was because I got overwhelmed with the number of quests on my log and was in doubt in wich order to tackle them, but the basic RPG aspects I got from the get go. From what I see on posts most of the issues also come from how dependent people are of the walkthrough or their ability to understand it. But from what I said earlier, the only issue I would tackle about the beggining is have the MC mention Lucius, most of the stuff I came through seemed pretty straight forward.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I won't kink shame anyone or turn them away as they might come for the porn but stay for the game... so instead I'll encourage anyone to play this game and open their mind to other aspects they might not have considered when starting it.

We have seen several users not interested in the NTR attempting the scenes and even if they never pursured the way further down, were impressed about the scenes quality.

Maybe people comeing for the pron will take this as a learning experience and check out more games on the genre.

 

[Guz007]

To kill or not to kill hekima?
Consequences ?

 

[Overlord070]

I won't kink shame anyone or turn them away as they might come for the porn but stay for the game... so instead I'll encourage anyone to play this game and open their mind to other aspects they might not have considered when starting it.

We have seen several users not interested in the NTR attempting the scenes and even if they never pursured the way further down, were impressed about the scenes quality.

Maybe people comeing for the pron will take this as a earning experience and check out more games on the genre.

That's fair but then to come here and either bitch the game doesn't explain anything or that the walkthrough is unreadable or whatever, c'mon now. Apart from the Lyvia section with regards to when the game let's you actually recruit mercs, you can follow the walkthrough easily.

Those that don't want to use a walkthrough but then want the game to hold their hand...tough luck? that's the nature of the game.

 

[zARRR]

To kill or not to kill hekima?
Consequences ?

Who knows game isn’t finished yet.
Gather your thoughts to guess what could happen, and also use your sense of morality.
Is leaving an enemy general that seems honest but desperate a good outcome?
Could Hekima become an ally or craft his own future leaving politics aside?
Is he lying or not?
Can a wolf lose his habit?
Draw your conclusions

 

[serencyon]

That's fair but then to come here and either bitch the game doesn't explain anything or that the walkthrough is unreadable or whatever, c'mon now. Apart from the Lyvia section with regards to when the game let's you actually recruit mercs, you can follow the walkthrough easily.

Those that don't want to use a walkthrough but then want the game to hold their hand...tough luck? that's the nature of the game.

I mean, it's the internet.
People would bitch about it even if the game was flawless.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Who knows game isn’t finished yet.
Gather your thoughts to guess what could happen, and also use your sense of morality.
Is leaving an enemy general that seems honest but desperate a good outcome?
Could Hekima become an ally or craft his own future leaving politics aside?
Is he lying or not?
Can a wolf lose his habit?
Draw your conclusions

Hekima is what you'd call "a dog of war" he is not invested either by patronism or believe.
The better question is wether Hekima will attempt to conquer Anya by any means neccessary or he'll attempt to atleast end it with a positive impression by helping her, her mother and the MC to escape this mad war and start a new life in (relative) peace.

If anything Hekima can be the scorpion riding the wolfs back across the river.

 

[zARRR]

Hekima is what you'd call "a dog of war" he is not invested either by patronism or believe.
The better question is wether Hekima will attempt to conquer Anya by any means neccessary or he'll attempt to atleast end it with a positive impression by helping her, her mother and the MC to escape this mad war and start a new life in (relative) peace.

If anything Hekima can be the scorpion riding the wolfs back across the river.

With sparing Hekima, the plot can follow three different approaches:
-He comes back to backstab the player and tries to imprison Anya, showing off that he lied and that he was a slimy bastard all along.
-He comes back but to help, could even be a small gesture, like sabotaging an enemy attack to simply repay his debt with the MC for sparing him.
-He is a man of his word and never comes back, trying to start a new life.

It’s an interesting villain Hekima, if it’s true that Anya’s father was betrayed we may even face the demiurge of her family demise.
After all, I don’t think that we will fight Van and kill him in his camp, there will be another general or subordinate ready to take his place.

 

[Evangelion-01]

With sparing Hekima, the plot can follow three different approaches:
-He comes back to backstab the player and tries to imprison Anya, showing off that he lied and that he was a slimy bastard all along.
-He comes back but to help, could even be a small gesture, like sabotaging an enemy attack to simply repay his debt with the MC for sparing him.
-He is a man of his word and never comes back, trying to start a new life.

It’s an interesting villain Hekima, if it’s true that Anya’s father was betrayed we may even face the demiurge of her family demise.
After all, I don’t think that we will fight Van and kill him in his camp, there will be another general or subordinate ready to take his place.

I would suspect that Hekima will take MC "prisoner" to get him into the Camp... wether it's a trick or he betrays MC to get rid of him would be the question... if he'll act like a hero he might start a fire in their armory and/or supply tent which MIGHT get him killed.
I don't think we'll meet that traitor though, based on what Hekima said he was sent to Van as an operative and not with a battalion or even army (the men with Hekima were soldiers from the Glade)

 

[Abaddon44]

I am trying to finish the celebration in the camp, I already got the two dresses and the three wines but when I try to talk to Imawyn I only get the option to ask how she is, nothing is mentioned about the violin or a different dialogue appears.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I am trying to finish the celebration in the camp, I already got the two dresses and the three wines but when I try to talk to Imawyn I only get the option to ask how she is, nothing is mentioned about the violin or a different dialogue appears.

Have you given the dresses to the girls?
Do you already have the violin?

 

[Abaddon44]

yes, I already give them the dresses and no I dont have the violin because lucius wont sell if to me and Imawyn wont star her speech where she tell she can play music.

 

[serencyon]

By the way, any news about 5.4.0 ETA?

 

[Abaddon44]

Have you given the dresses to the girls?
Do you already have the violin?

this is what is not happening to me.

 

[VirtualElf84]

Okie dokie, then.... For starters, some good points:

1. Content

Positives:

a) An AMAZING amount of animation is already implemented and beautifully done!
b) Love how the immersion feels when you can choose the pure or corrupt path, and how it effects the lewds!
c) You can really tell how serious the devs are about translating the scenes into English, and that's certainly appreciated!
d) You can almost entirely figure out what your next objective is by just using common sense roughly 75% of the time, if not more and that's frickin' awesome! Yes, the option for a walkthrough is valued but for this much content without a NEED for it so often... I cannot even express how enjoyable that is to me and I've no doubts others might agree with me as well.


Now for the criticisms (note that it is constructive criticism, not cynical so all you haters can just f*ck off)

Negatives:

a) Each scene is sometimes laggy asf!
b) The loops pause at random moments and the transition from one area to the next needs a revise (your character sometimes feels like it jumped clear across the map by simply entering the zone).
c) Hit ratings are dogwater garbage still, it feels like for every 12 strikes the PC only successfully lands 4 or 5 on average no matter what level he's at and with so many heavily "grindy" moments already in the game, that can only piss people off over time. Another option that could work here might be nerfing the everluving hell out of non-essential enemies (standard trash mobs) to make grinding less insufferable; if you can't hit the broadside of a barn on a sunny summer day, the least you should get are MORE than enough "practice shots" in so that you get better at it. xD
d) Although the concept IS impressive on its own, and definitely needs to be in the game, having such HUGELY consequential "timed quests" so early in just feels redundant. The quests I am referring to are MOSTLY the timed quest objectives that unlock with such little effort to raise affection. Maybe change it so that the character's level increase unlocks it instead, or maybe even raise the affection level minimum before the event triggers? You could even change the dice roll to make it a bit more randomized, I'm sure. I dunno, feels like there's some "tutorial boss" PTSD (xD I'm sure some of you know EXACTLY what I'm referring to here) when I think about how this screws everything when I'm already busting my character's balls to get back into his house.


All in all, the game has some SERIOUS potential, but dear CHRIST does it need some improvement still. Some of the changes I mentioned aren't even that difficult to do anything with, just takes a team with a basic understanding of intermediate algebra and the time to code it all together (which I presume the devs have both already, since they've released this much content into the game by now).

 

[Overlord070]

d) Although the concept IS impressive on its own, and definitely needs to be in the game, having such HUGELY consequential "timed quests" so early in just feels redundant. The quests I am referring to are MOSTLY the timed quest objectives that unlock with such little effort to raise affection. Maybe change it so that the character's level increase unlocks it instead, or maybe even raise the affection level minimum before the event triggers? You could even change the dice roll to make it a bit more randomized, I'm sure. I dunno, feels like there's some "tutorial boss" PTSD (xD I'm sure some of you know EXACTLY what I'm referring to here) when I think about how this screws everything when I'm already busting my character's balls to get back into his house.


All in all, the game has some SERIOUS potential, but dear CHRIST does it need some improvement still. Some of the changes I mentioned aren't even that difficult to do anything with, just takes a team with a basic understanding of intermediate algebra and the time to code it all together (which I presume the devs to have already, if they've released this much content into the game by now).

Out of curiosity, which timed events are you referring to?

 

[yazda]

I am trying to finish the celebration in the camp, I already got the two dresses and the three wines but when I try to talk to Imawyn I only get the option to ask how she is, nothing is mentioned about the violin or a different dialogue appears.

you need to corrupt her (at least c 10) or raise her affection and talk with her several times inside her tent