RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.5.8.5b] [Chyos]

[acowasto]

Ahahah I have like 5 save files? (Let me see one, moment, yeah 5)
And yeah they do not vary much but I like to differ playstyles.
Those files of mine explore all different takes except one, that I like to call “Solo Sabrina” (I like her ok?), even if I don‘t like NTR I am curious to see what’s going on (And as always curiosity killed the cat, meaning I get traumatized, looking for the day to trample with a carriage Thomas, Dave and Giron), Chyos put so much effort in all of this, best rpg maker 18+ game.

Yeah the obsession is awful most of the times, I get it, I removed the inhibition, but act at least like a human being!
On one hand you’ll have threesomes and anal sex on the other having one minded sex women.
Like Emily has a great bed, but she does not make me enjoy the comfort zone.
Oh well these are the seeds (YEAH PUN) you sowed and this is what you get.

Well credit where credit's due for Chyos hard work on it. Even if it was meant as a punishment and not as content, at least at first, it still deserve the praise. Althrough I won't be the one judging that as I won't even check it, because, as I wrote, I'm not into cheating.

Yeah, the obsession is quite... unattractive. I get it too, with the corruption girls lose thier inhibitions, but they also become hornballs to the point of it being more worrisome than turn on, at least to me. Sadly, you can't talk with girls to try new things and first you have to corrupt them in order to just get a blowjob or try anal. But if you do this, they already cross the "hornball" line.
I mean if not for the content and interactions I wouldn't be pushing Love/Corruption route at all. I would be pretty affraid of turning them into mindless sluts who, if not fucked often enough, will lose thier shit and go on rape-crusade through the whole village and nearbly forest to satisfly thier unsatisfiable lust.
I would be happy if I it would be possible to just talk things out with girls, even buy them some toys so they could better take care of thier needs if MC is out for few days or, if someone is into it, talk girls into taking care of eachother.

Also, which is somewhat important, Chyos put some content, gameplay wise, behind either a "corruption wall" and/or "fuck wall", like, for example, potion making. In order to start making potions (or rather for game to allow you to fill vials with water) you have to convince Tia to try to have anal sex. In order to do so you have to corrupt Tia, Hiba and have anal with her in front of Tia. And that is pretty fine, because it's a porn game, but... it's not possible to avoid it if you want to just learn how to make, rather important gameplay wise, ability to make potions. And, hate me for it, I don't really like all the Rumah, sex wise, content.

 

[zARRR]

Well credit where credit's due for Chyos hard work on it. Even if it was meant as a punishment and not as content, at least at first, it still deserve the praise. Althrough I won't be the one judging that as I won't even check it, because, as I wrote, I'm not into cheating.

Yeah, the obsession is quite... unattractive. I get it too, with the corruption girls lose thier inhibitions, but they also become hornballs to the point of it being more worrisome than turn on, at least to me. Sadly, you can't talk with girls to try new things and first you have to corrupt them in order to just get a blowjob or try anal. But if you do this, they already cross the "hornball" line.
I mean if not for the content and interactions I wouldn't be pushing Love/Corruption route at all. I would be pretty affraid of turning them into mindless sluts who, if not fucked often enough, will lose thier shit and go on rape-crusade through the whole village and nearbly forest to satisfly thier unsatisfiable lust.
I would be happy if I it would be possible to just talk things out with girls, even buy them some toys so they could better take care of thier needs if MC is out for few days or, if someone is into it, talk girls into taking care of eachother.

Also, which is somewhat important, Chyos put some content, gameplay wise, behind either a "corruption wall" and/or "fuck wall", like, for example, potion making. In order to start making potions (or rather for game to allow you to fill vials with water) you have to convince Tia to try to have anal sex. In order to do so you have to corrupt Tia, Hiba and have anal with her in front of Tia. And that is pretty fine, because it's a porn game, but... it's not possible to avoid it if you want to just learn how to make, rather important gameplay wise, ability to make potions. And, hate me for it, I don't really like all the Rumah, sex wise, content.

I can see it Acowasto, I am too not into cheating and having to corrupt a normal family's life just to get potion making is kinda upsetting.
Steps:
-You have firstly to ruin Tomak's life by stealing his Wanita
- Then corrupt Tia
-???
-PROFIT.
That's basically it, maybe Chyos in a distant future will open the option to not break these two girls mind, to get into alchemy, but that's just speculation.
At least Tia keeps her attitude (Even if more horny) corrupted, she accepts that you have more women, but she is still jealous and stubborn. (Also I like fuck wall, it is a fun name)
Now that I think about 3\4 girls in Rumah require that you either let die one of their husband\love interest or cheat, to obtain the girl, which was either intentional to show the main character charisma and scheming abilities or not.
Like it or not they are side girls (Except Raaisha in the future).
Also yeah that's why I always use and switch save files before totally corrupting a girl, corrupted Penny and pure Penny are not the same person and I prefer the first.
Also interesting that we are deeply analyzing this porn game, but I should not get amazed, ASS (if I may steal your title) has a lot to analyze.
Another thing, who is your fav and most hated girl in game Acowasto?

 

[holyrape]

when is the new version coming ?

 

[acowasto]

I can see it Acowasto, I am too not into cheating and having to corrupt a normal family's life just to get potion making is kinda upsetting.
Steps:
-You have firstly to ruin Tomak's life by stealing his Wanita
- Then corrupt Tia
-???
-PROFIT.
That's basically it, maybe Chyos in a distant future will open the option to not break these two girls mind, to get into alchemy, but that's just speculation.
At least Tia keeps her attitude (Even if more horny) corrupted, she accepts that you have more women, but she is still jealous and stubborn. (Also I like fuck wall, it is a fun name)
Now that I think about 3\4 girls in Rumah require that you either let die one of their husband\love interest or cheat, to obtain the girl, which was either intentional to show the main character charisma and scheming abilities or not.
Like it or not they are side girls (Except Raaisha in the future).
Also yeah that's why I always use and switch save files before totally corrupting a girl, corrupted Penny and pure Penny are not the same person and I prefer the first.
Also interesting that we are deeply analyzing this porn game, but I should not get amazed, ASS (if I may steal your title) has a lot to analyze.
Another thing, who is your fav and most hated girl in game Acowasto?

Well... games are a form of culture and literature. A pretty advanced one, as we can not only read it, watch it, but also interact with. ASS (and I won't mind stealing the term) has a lot of content to analize. Because it's a game, focused on porn, doesn't make it any less of a literature form, but adds more topics to analize, like shortcuts Chyos is sometimes using.
For example, it is pretty believable of Frisha to fall in love with MC after he rescued her from being raped by Dave and giving herself to MC without much of a courting or convincing. But it is not so believable for Katherin (as I wrote in one of my previous posts) to jump straight on MC's dick, because she saw it. Especially not so soon after another traumatic experience of being attacked by orcs and her rapist and almost being raped second time.

As to answer your question about my favourite girl and the one I hate the most. Well, It may suprise you, but I don't have a favourite girl. Although the one I hate the most is Emma (Or I should write Isha). Why I should't hate her? Instead of throwing MC out, killing him or just beating him up enough to understand breaking into her house was bad idea she is capturing and using potions on him against his will to make him a submissive servant and taking advantage of him when he is blinded by overwhelming lust.
Also, I really, REALLY, do not approve of Frank actions. He TRIED to die in my hands.

 

[zARRR]

Well... games are a form of culture and literature. A pretty advanced one, as we can not only read it, watch it, but also interact with. ASS (and I won't mind stealing the term) has a lot of content to analize. Because it's a game, focused on porn, doesn't make it any less of a literature form, but adds more topics to analize, like shortcuts Chyos is sometimes using.
For example, it is pretty believable of Frisha to fall in love with MC after he rescued her from being raped by Dave and giving herself to MC without much of a courting or convincing. But it is not so believable for Katherin (as I wrote in one of my previous posts) to jump straight on MC's dick, because she saw it. Especially not so soon after another traumatic experience of being attacked by orcs and her rapist and almost being raped second time.

As to answer your question about my favourite girl and the one I hate the most. Well, It may suprise you, but I don't have a favourite girl. Although the one I hate the most is Emma (Or I should write Isha). Why I should't hate her? Instead of throwing MC out, killing him or just beating him up enough to understand breaking into her house was bad idea she is capturing and using potions on him against his will to make him a submissive servant and taking advantage of him when he is blinded by overwhelming lust.
Also, I really, REALLY, do not approve of Frank actions. He TRIED to die in my hands.

Yeah Frank is such an egotistic man, with that action, I could never look him straight into his eyes again.
For Katherin it is weird I guess, it has the internal monologue of “I have a man in my house now I feel horny again” and it’s not surprising for that scene, but it sure leaves a “Eh” taste after we know what she has passed
Also glad you brought it up, BUT I HATE, when writers go for the clichés such as: “His dick was so big” it’s ridiculous!
It destroys any character development or interesting choice of writing just because his dick is MASSIVE, I am fucking tired of it, like every woman (Or man) that sees a giant dick immediately thinks to jump into his arms.
Such a poor excuse for sex actions, ASS at least has that cliché for two character, One is Katherine, and the other is Emily and she has a better development.
Oh yeah I hate too Isha, I am not going to choose her side fuck no, she is going to pay for what she has done, for her hubris.

 

[Yukihirou]

Also, I don't really feel or need to have more saves to go all different routes, because in the ASS (A Struggle with Sin) they doesn't vary too much. Not to mention by going "Love/Corruption route" you can unlock almost every content of other (if not all) routes. As for the NTR content saying I'm not huge fan of NTR is a... understatement. I hate it, I despite it and I will shame it 'till the end of the world and the person who is trying to shove it into my face as a fetish, because they want to justify cheating.

I'm a huge fan of NTR of all kind, but only if it is optional, trying to check off repulsive ideas while writing a piece of art is just self-censoring. Unavoidable NTR is a tragedy in and of itself, now add in a route/scenario to deviate from that path and suddenly you feel like you're actually controlling the fate of a character, like playing god. That's the beauty of writing and immersing in "choices", that is the power of a game, totally different from reading a book with a predetermined ending.

My favorite line from the mouth of a self claimed MC male "feminist" in a certain visual novel: "The world is beautiful and kind. In fact, it is so benevolent that it lets anything happen".
Cheating is real, so is slavery, so is murder and anything considered "bad".

 

[acowasto]

Yeah Frank is such an egotistic man, with that action, I could never look him straight into his eyes again.
For Katherin it is weird I guess, it has the internal monologue of “I have a man in my house now I feel horny again” and it’s not surprising for that scene, but it sure leaves a “Eh” taste after we know what she has passed
Also glad you brought it up, BUT I HATE, when writers go for the clichés such as: “His dick was so big” it’s ridiculous!
It destroys any character development or interesting choice of writing just because his dick is MASSIVE, I am fucking tired of it, like every woman (Or man) that sees a giant dick immediately thinks to jump into his arms.
Such a poor excuse for sex actions, ASS at least has that cliché for two character, One is Katherine, and the other is Emily and she has a better development.
Oh yeah I hate too Isha, I am not going to choose her side fuck no, she is going to pay for what she has done, for her hubris.

Yeah, I also don't like the BDLS (Biggus Dickkus Love Syndrome), as cheap excuse to have sex scene. But I would say it is cliche for a few more characters than just Kath and Emily. I mean for Emily, just as for Frisha, were both saved from harm by MC. Emily twice from bandits and Frisha from being raped by Dave. So it's somewhat understandable that they fell for MC without much more of courting and convincing. BDLS was but another reason. Although Emily could grief Marcus a bit longer and have a bit more of a struggle to replace him with MC, because right now it feels too soon and too easy, but that's the shortcut for the sake of porn I guess.
Rick's Mother, Verana (Or was it Verona? Well, either way it was a pizza kind of name) have BDLS too, which MC can discover by spying on her and later by fucking her in the workshop (Which i did by mistake by picking wrong option).
It was some time since i did dwarven questline, but I think Gawina also have BDLS, although "rekindling" her inner fire is a pretty smart, although somewhat funny, explanation for it.
Also, almost all girls by having sex with MC are getting, sooner or later, BDLS. But at least they didn't jump on it right after they saw it, so that a great plus.

As for Isha, I'm surely not going to help her. But she's a powerful witch and only one person close enough and capable of teaching MC magic, so "helping" her long enough to become more powerful is pretty reasonable goal before taking her down. Althrough Sabrina might cause some problems without some convincing first.

I'm a huge fan of NTR of all kind, but only if it is optional, trying to check off repulsive ideas while writing a piece of art is just self-censoring. Unavoidable NTR is a tragedy in and of itself, now add in a route/scenario to deviate from that path and suddenly you feel like you're actually controlling the fate of a character, like playing god. That's the beauty of writing and immersing in "choices", that is the power of a game, totally different from reading a book with a predetermined ending.

My favorite line from the mouth of a self claimed MC male "feminist" in a certain visual novel: "The world is beautiful and kind. In fact, it is so benevolent that it lets anything happen".
Cheating is real, so is slavery, so is murder and anything considered "bad".

Well, then I'm happy for ya you finding this type of content enjoyable. Although I have to disagree. Games have already predetermined endings like books, a headcanon, but we cannot just skip to the last page, because we need to cheat to do so. The difference between game and book is the interaction part. Instead of reading about it, we can be in the heat of it. Everything what happens ouf of headcanon is but a illusion, a creator's answer to "what if" question made by his mind.

 

[Yukihirou]

Well, then I'm happy for ya you finding this type of content enjoyable. Although I have to disagree. Games have already predetermined endings like books, a headcanon, but we cannot just skip to the last page, because we need to cheat to do so. The difference between game and book is the interaction part. Instead of reading about it, we can be in the heat of it. Everything what happens ouf of headcanon is but a illusion, a creator's answer to "what if" question made by his mind.

Yes and no. Books, can only have one ending unless author dabble in meta writing/publishing (which often comes off as reckoning which is bad).
Games/visual novels, however can have multiple endings, each reached upon making a multitude of choice and progress throughout the game. That's a huge difference and a, ahem, "gamechanger" from reading book. There's nothing false, there is no illusions, it's all choices one make in a game.

 

[acowasto]

Yes and no. Books, can only have one ending unless author dabble in meta writing/publishing (which often comes off as reckoning which is bad).
Games/visual novels, however can have multiple endings, each reached upon making a multitude of choice and progress throughout the game. That's a huge difference and a, ahem, "gamechanger" from reading book. There's nothing false, there is no illusions, it's all choices one make in a game.

Well, yes and no. Yes, games and novels can have mutliple endings which are reach upon making multiple of choices through the game. No, because only one of endings can be consider canonical, therefore only the correct set of choice matter, so all the other choices and endings are not canonical and couldn't happen which means other than correct choices are but a illusion to experience a different, not canonical, line of events. But in game we can, in real time, experience them. In a book, we would have to read "what if" tome added to main, canonical set of events, book.

 

[The 1★ Dude]

Pretty stupid the add pregnant content without any way to end it -.- Now im stuck till she give birth.

 

[MangaKing]

Pretty stupid the add pregnant content without any way to end it -.- Now im stuck till she give birth.

I'm hoping/think the next update has birth, considering that once she's pregnant she can't do anything,
On a related note, the next update should be soon right? It's once a month or something?

 

[Pervy Sensei]

Pretty stupid the add pregnant content without any way to end it -.- Now im stuck till she give birth.

When the version was published on Patreon, the dev warned patrons that there was no way to end it. Giving birth was delayed to the second, final update of the month to finish the pregnancy mechanic. It is finished in the latest Patreon version. Which would also be the only version the dev himself would have released to the public. So it was never planned by him to provide you with an unfinished pregnancy mechanic.

I'm hoping/think the next update has birth, considering that once she's pregnant she can't do anything,
On a related note, the next update should be soon right? It's once a month or something?

Depends. If it is not pirated first, then yes, it's once a month. After the second update this month, a new public version will be available, which will finish Kate's pregnancy content.

 

[J_M]

Can anyone please give a hint on what may cause / how to prevent, game crashes? Currently I'm running the game on a decent spec, win 10, laptop (i7, 2.6 Ghz processor 32 GB RAM). Game version is 0.4.3.5.
I had these kind of crashes before but I blamed the save compatibility. I started a new game but situation didn't change. Thank you.

 

[Pervy Sensei]

Can anyone please give a hint on what may cause / how to prevent, game crashes? Currently I'm running the game on a decent spec, win 10, laptop (i7, 2.6 Ghz processor 32 GB RAM). Game version is 0.4.3.5.
I had these kind of crashes before but I blamed the save compatibility. I started a new game but situation didn't change. Thank you.

Enable performance mode in the options. Might need to save it in options through the command menu after starting a new game, not sure. If so, just bring up the menu while in game, scroll down until you see the last two commands (after Save/Load, it's there if you scroll past). But I think it should work by using the options command in the title menu to change to performance mode.

Another possibility is that you need to assign your GPU to playing RPGM games. That might work too, and allow you to avoid performance mode.

 

[J_M]

Thank you very much for the suggestions. Will try that as soon as possible

 

[Paker Kent]

is have any update ?

 

[zARRR]

Yeah, I also don't like the BDLS (Biggus Dickkus Love Syndrome), as cheap excuse to have sex scene. But I would say it is cliche for a few more characters than just Kath and Emily. I mean for Emily, just as for Frisha, were both saved from harm by MC. Emily twice from bandits and Frisha from being raped by Dave. So it's somewhat understandable that they fell for MC without much more of courting and convincing. BDLS was but another reason. Although Emily could grief Marcus a bit longer and have a bit more of a struggle to replace him with MC, because right now it feels too soon and too easy, but that's the shortcut for the sake of porn I guess.
Rick's Mother, Verana (Or was it Verona? Well, either way it was a pizza kind of name) have BDLS too, which MC can discover by spying on her and later by fucking her in the workshop (Which i did by mistake by picking wrong option).
It was some time since i did dwarven questline, but I think Gawina also have BDLS, although "rekindling" her inner fire is a pretty smart, although somewhat funny, explanation for it.
Also, almost all girls by having sex with MC are getting, sooner or later, BDLS. But at least they didn't jump on it right after they saw it, so that a great plus.

As for Isha, I'm surely not going to help her. But she's a powerful witch and only one person close enough and capable of teaching MC magic, so "helping" her long enough to become more powerful is pretty reasonable goal before taking her down. Althrough Sabrina might cause some problems without some convincing first.


Well, then I'm happy for ya you finding this type of content enjoyable. Although I have to disagree. Games have already predetermined endings like books, a headcanon, but we cannot just skip to the last page, because we need to cheat to do so. The difference between game and book is the interaction part. Instead of reading about it, we can be in the heat of it. Everything what happens ouf of headcanon is but a illusion, a creator's answer to "what if" question made by his mind.

I have a small theory that is also related to the fact that with Isha’s update, Chyos will introduce a better alignment choices.
I think that if you side with Aisha you’ll get black magic while with Athia white magic, it’s just a theory (a sex game theory)

 

[acowasto]

I have a small theory that is also related to the fact that with Isha’s update, Chyos will introduce a better alignment choices.
I think that if you side with Aisha you’ll get black magic while with Athia white magic, it’s just a theory (a sex game theory)

That is actually pretty reasonable to assume. By far MC learned pretty powerful spells which most will consider black magic, althrough with pretty "low' cost to pay for using them. Maybe with Athia we will have more helpful spells, like aoe healing and corruption cleansing? Although it seems somewhat pointless if Mira is going to become a permament companion. I mean it would be a pretty good choice for a dedicated healer class.

 

[zARRR]

That is actually pretty reasonable to assume. By far MC learned pretty powerful spells which most will consider black magic, althrough with pretty "low' cost to pay for using them. Maybe with Athia we will have more helpful spells, like aoe healing and corruption cleansing? Although it seems somewhat pointless if Mira is going to become a permament companion. I mean it would be a pretty good choice for a dedicated healer class.

Mmmmmh that’s an interesting question.
Corruption cleansing could be actually really useful, you just unlock new stuff and you can make the girl return to her “normal” state without giving up some particular sex scene (Like anal).
I presume white magic will be healing and some damage effect spells (like lightning), while black magic, would be status damage with more damage spells.
Then for Mira, we don’t know if Tia and Lycia are going to follow us into the monastery or if Penny will just become a companion during the trip to the Monastery, we don’t even know is she is capable already of some spells.
My only blank space, is on the alignment status, we have tons of ways to make your character more corrupted and just 2 to make your character less corrupted, and even then there is no reason not to do those two “good” choices, you get Lyvia love points by burying and burning the soldiers.

 

[acowasto]

Mmmmmh that’s an interesting question.
Corruption cleansing could be actually really useful, you just unlock new stuff and you can make the girl return to her “normal” state without giving up some particular sex scene (Like anal).
I presume white magic will be healing and some damage effect spells (like lightning), while black magic, would be status damage with more damage spells.
Then for Mira, we don’t know if Tia and Lycia are going to follow us into the monastery or if Penny will just become a companion during the trip to the Monastery, we don’t even know is she is capable already of some spells.
My only blank space, is on the alignment status, we have tons of ways to make your character more corrupted and just 2 to make your character less corrupted, and even then there is no reason not to do those two “good” choices, you get Lyvia love points by burying and burning the soldiers.

Mira cannot be corrupted, so I think she's using magic during sex without even thinking about it, because I won't believe she's doing it be the sheer force of will. Maybe she had a theory about magic in the church, but didn't have a opportunity to use more spells or really have to wait for "god's blessing" to use them. Either way it would be a wasted oportunity to not make her a healer. Same goes for Bianca, a perfect textbook rogue... and even with her own hood!

I do think Mira can convince monastery abbot to let Tia, Lyvia and MC stay in the monastery as long as they will pay or work for thier stay there or (ugh...) NTR content with her. Dunno why you mentioned Penny though. Maybe you thought about Liandra, future baron of Kirlic? I don't think with her status it will be a problem.

As for aligment, yes.. it's pretty easy to gain much corruption, bo no way to get rid of it and, as you wrote, it's kinda pointless to decrease corruption as there is no reward for it.