RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[djsverige]

Wait till we can marry them both as well I guess. And move/invite them to our own house. I hope that can be done with all women. And we upgrade our home to a castle siding the hill as natural barrier behind it! Emily's house + MC home area. Or maybe on top of that hill behind the Khaterine's hut a new path.

I want to be king in the game now! Killing off both idiot kings. We are going to be king of the Goblins and Orcs soon already.

very funny like he got married to emiley or her daughters?

 

[djsverige]

Because Chyos doesn't implemented it yet. So, MC doesn't have the Knowledge on how ask them to take a bath with him. You have to use good old Mental Imagery, when the Physical Imagery doesn't exist yet; by picturing them both naked in the tub with MC.

very funny trying hard i see!

if anyone has inteligant answer please do other than that show respect if any has.

 

[ilsc69]

very funny like he got married to emiley or her daughters?

Hey I am not the dev here. I am just saying maybe that way. That is all.

 

[ilsc69]

I started playing it again with 0.6.1.1b version. A bug in Katherine's text about Tia. I thought i report it here to be fixed. Unsure how else to report it for future fixing.

 

[Silverdragon]

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John would be able to be the character you want if he was forced by external forces. Nothing in his character points to him being open to lusting after Melissa. His protective nature could have been shown to be twisted in that way, but it was not. He is one of the few characters in ASWS that is truly lawful good.

Just look at how he treats the MC when he asks him to dupe Thomas' key.

Him getting corrupted would need to be very excessive, because it would require him to make a complete 180 as an individual. It would have to be something like possession, because if anything of John remains, he wouldn't be the character you want him to be. It can be done. But it won't be anything like him succumbing to Melissa coming onto him. No matter how hard she tries.

After ASWS, Peasant's Quest is my second favorite H-game in development, in it you have a daughter with a succubus. Then you fuck your daughter who gives birth to a familiar that helps you in battles. Of course you fuck your familiar, (granddaughter) who also gives birth to little imps.

I offer this not only to show that I am not taking issue because father / daughter, in PQ this narrative follows a logic. A logic not present in your story of John.

I personally rank PQ higher than ASWS, and I concur with your assessment of PQ's MC. That said, you could not say that ASWS' MC would not fuck his lab grown daughter if he had the opportunity to do so (which could be a thing with the goblin, Gwen or Athia's storyline). They both have very loose morals when it comes to incest (at least when I play them)

John is another story entirely.

Should I leave 1 goblin camp alone so I can farm them later, or there is no point?

Also, can someone answer this as I forgot what I usualy do.

 

[Apartment817]

They both have very loose morals when it comes to incest (at least when I play them)

Both are written pretty well, in that they have little to no character. So whoever you want them to be can easily projected onto the framework.

Should I leave 1 goblin camp alone so I can farm them later, or there is no point?

I don't understand, they respawn don't they? Maybe I am not understanding what camp you are talking about.

 

[Silverdragon]

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I started playing it again with 0.6.1.1b version. A bug in Katherine's text about Tia. I thought i report it here to be fixed. Unsure how else to report it for future fixing.

If it bothers you(it did bother me), you can replace the CommonEvents.json in www\data with this one(unzip it first). Just make a back up of the json beforehand. While all I did is add and remove backslashes, I have no idea if it fucks anything up in the long run. Short term however:

 

[Silverdragon]

Both are written pretty well, in that they have little to no character. So whoever you want them to be can easily projected onto the framework.

They are both shown as fairly lustful and corrupt humans, which kind of hints the player to go in that direction.

I don't understand, they respawn don't they? Maybe I am not understanding what camp you are talking about.

The goblin camps in the mine respawn? Maybe my memory is more fucked than I thought.

 

[ilsc69]

If it bothers you(it did bother me), you can replace the CommonEvents.json in www\data with this one(unzip it first). Just make a back up of the json beforehand. While all I did is add and remove backslashes, I have no idea if it fucks anything up in the long run. Short term however:
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I posted it so that dev fixes it in the future for everyone. I have fixed mine already. It won't break anything for future, it's just a typo

 

[Apartment817]

The goblin camps in the mine respawn? Maybe my memory is more fucked than I thought.

The ones on the first floor eventually disappear as you find Ugotha's camp. But up until that point they respawn.

After you have finished Ugotha's current content, the goblins in the deep mine ignore you, but you can always provoke them. Ironic that we were just talking about PQ, since you can do the same there.

 

[Silverdragon]

The ones on the first floor eventually disappear as you find Ugotha's camp. But up until that point they respawn.

After you have finished Ugotha's current content, the goblins in the deep mine ignore you, but you can always provoke them. Ironic that we were just talking about PQ, since you can do the same there.

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Except in PQ they are eventually almost all your kids.

I posted it so that dev fixes it in the future for everyone. I have fixed mine already. It won't break anything for future, it's just a typo

Typo or not, I had my game crash when figuring out what backslashes to change. The n[16] refused to change into Tia for some reason.

 

[Chii]

Chyos doesn't have plans to make one

While there's no ETA and one shouldn't be expected anytime soon, this is not true
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-struggle-with-sin-v0-6-1-1b-chyos.32136/post-17382797
" Back home I now fixed these problems so that future versions of the game will be possible to be emulated again on mobile and I will also look into making a moblie version myself again."

If it bothers you(it did bother me), you can replace the CommonEvents.json in www\data with this one(unzip it first). Just make a back up of the json beforehand. While all I did is add and remove backslashes, I have no idea if it fucks anything up in the long run. Short term however:
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This is pretty cool, thank you for sharing the data file

 

[Officer Doofy]

John would be able to be the character you want if he was forced by external forces. Nothing in his character points to him being open to lusting after Melissa. His protective nature could have been shown to be twisted in that way, but it was not. He is one of the few characters in ASWS that is truly lawful good.

Just look at how he treats the MC when he asks him to dupe Thomas' key.

Him getting corrupted would need to be very excessive, because it would require him to make a complete 180 as an individual. It would have to be something like possession, because if anything of John remains, he wouldn't be the character you want him to be. It can be done. But it won't be anything like him succumbing to Melissa coming onto him. No matter how hard she tries.

- The Chalice of Fortitude
- Melissa being corrupted by the MC Cum
- John having ties to Arenfield Underground Demonic Sex Cult
- A Natasha/Pater situation where he really is just a lust filled dude holding/hiding it in well.

Best to just wait, the questlines of them arent even done yet so no point speculating. My original comment was made because I thought I remembered reading a Patreon update about it but I could have been misremembering another character getting scenes either way, we aint done with either of their storylines so not much to be gained talking about it anymore.

 

[Apartment817]

While there's no ETA and one shouldn't be expected anytime soon, this is not true
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-struggle-with-sin-v0-6-1-1b-chyos.32136/post-17382797
" Back home I now fixed these problems so that future versions of the game will be possible to be emulated again on mobile and I will also look into making a moblie version myself again."

This is pretty cool, thank you for sharing the data file

In the games Discord, #general discussion channel:
Chyos —
"I worked on it but then figured out that using maldives emulator does a much better job than the android version would.
so if you want to play on mobile download maldives via playstore, download the pc version of the game and you are good to go
but from what I saw during my tests I wouldn't want to play on such a small screen... everything gets sooo fucking tiny"
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Man, I love when you correct me, I get to watch you step on a rake again, then you run away like it never happened. See you next time.

 

[Chii]

In the games Discord, #general discussion channel:
Chyos —
"I worked on it but then figured out that using maldives emulator does a much better job than the android version would.
so if you want to play on mobile download maldives via playstore, download the pc version of the game and you are good to go
but from what I saw during my tests I wouldn't want to play on such a small screen... everything gets sooo fucking tiny"
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Man, I love when you correct me, I get to watch you step on a rake again, then you run away like it never happened. See you next time.

Yes, shame on me for quoting the game's developer.

 

[Apartment817]

- The Chalice of Fortitude
- Melissa being corrupted by the MC Cum
- John having ties to Arenfield Underground Demonic Sex Cult
- A Natasha/Pater situation where he really is just a lust filled dude holding/hiding it in well.

Best to just wait, the questlines of them arent even done yet so no point speculating. My original comment was made because I thought I remembered reading a Patreon update about it but I could have been misremembering another character getting scenes either way, we aint done with either of their storylines so not much to be gained talking about it anymore.

None of that addressed John's motivation to completely change every piece of dialogue of his that is currently in the game. Not a bit.

- Chalice has no bearing on John's motivation.
- Melissa's corruption has no change of John's motivation, we already said that it's John's motivation that makes this impossible, not Melissa's.
- If the cult makes you fuck your daughter, Chyos would start with Roderick
- What is the Pater hiding? What dialogue tells you he is lawful good? There isn't enough Pater there for a basis to judge whether or not he would fuck his daughter. Natasha walking into Pater's room is completely different then John contradicting everything in the game he has every said about Melissa. I wouldn't even say it was out of character for John to smash if Natasha walked into his room.

HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE SAYING A HUGE CHARACTER REVERSAL WILL HAPPEN, WITH NO REASON FOR IT TO?

 

[Apartment817]

Yes, shame on me for quoting the game's developer.

wow, you didn't run away this time. I am so taken aback I have no response. Good on you for finding a backbone.

 

[Chii]

wow, you didn't run away this time. I am so taken aback I have no response. Good on you for finding a backbone.

Believe it or not I have, for the most part, more interesting things to do than to insist on pointless discussions, especially when the replies are filled with fallacies derailing away from what was the original topic.

 

[Officer Doofy]

- Chalice has no bearing on John's motivation.

The story is literally not even done yet and is still ongoing so stop talking as if you are the developer and know how it will end.

- Melissa's corruption has no change of John's motivation, we already said that it's John's motivation that makes this impossible, not Melissa's.

Corruption means corruption, she doesnt need to influence his motivation, she would only need to present herself to him due to the effects of her own corruption.

- If the cult makes you fuck your daughter, Chyos would start with Roderick

Stop speaking for the developer, you have no inclination as to their design so all you are doing is yapping your feelings about the situation.

- What is the Pater hiding? What dialogue tells you he is lawful good? There isn't enough Pater there for a basis to judge whether or not he would fuck his daughter. Natasha walking into Pater's room is completely different then John contradicting everything in the game he has every said about Melissa. I wouldn't even say it was out of character for John to smash if Natasha walked into his room.

Literally ALL of his dialogue is nothing but him being the pious man he claims to be, IN FACT Giron comes to him about polygamy and he outright refuses Girons request until Giron threatens him. Meanwhile his sex dialogue with a CORRUPTED NATASHA, has him saying he only took her in because he wanted to groom her and fuck her one day.

You need to stop spouting off like you know whats going to happen, at this point you are just rabidly posting to anyone and everyone in a desperate attempt to seem knowledgeable when you have 0 clue because this isnt your game and you arent developing anything about it.

 

[Apartment817]

Believe it or not I have, for the most part, more interesting things to do than to insist on pointless discussions, especially when the replies are filled with fallacies derailing away from what was the original topic.

Above, you called me out for being wrong about Chyos's plans to make a port. I have access to more discussions on the matter, so I don't fault you on being out of date. But it is just another time you have made a point to call me out, when you were in fact wrong.

It appears like calling me out, when you are wrong is something you find interesting and have a lot of time for. My only issue is that you usually come at me full chested, then cower away like a mouse.

Here you called me out, tone policing how I handled criticism, until I showed you what was said that started both instances, you then disappeared for a few days:



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Just a week or so ago you jumped in a conversation about Bjorn, solely because you have a bone to pick with me.

Never said I played from 2017 to 2022ish, because I didn't.

But if you want to insist that it is a punishment to the player, tell we where the player can be punished by NTR without choosing to be punished. Where is that a punishment for playing bad, and not a choice the player makes?

Where is "(It's always avoidable)" not true? Where can't the NTR be avoided if you fail as a player? WHERE??????

By losing a battle when a girl is nearby, just like I said in the post you just quoted.

lol, what battle with possible NTR nearby is a challenge to win? The only way people see those scenes is through feign potions. You act like you can't easily avoid 95% of the battles, or revert to an older save if you find a battle too challenging.

Only because you realized the disclaimer says "objectives" and not battles, and because Storm made some good points. You came back with:

Yes, the game is easy, yes, you have to go out of your way to chase ntr

When minutes before you had picked an argument with me on that issue, but did it like you had won, and I was in the wrong for saying that NTR is not a punishment for losing battles, it is solely a fetish switch.