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RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

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Ok... Just hope Chyos don't follow the same steps of the dev of Renryuu Ascencion and lose the way adding grind things over grind things. This update, dont know why, give me bad vibes. I dont wanna bad vibes from one of the few games i follow. Lets we all hold hands and pray to Athia.

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zARRR said:
Which is not, since he actually spent half of those 4 months writing dialogues, plot points and especially making the murder case, he cares too much about his story and overworld. (And delayed the update for writing aspects)
Walkthrough is there to help clueless players along the way and cheats for some that just want to half the grind and get to the point faster (or just to mess with the game).
And even then Chyos has plans to polish more content in terms of gameplay and grinding spike, but saying that he didn’t care or knows that his “game” isn’t worth playing it’s a complete misunderstanding.
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I never said he didn't care. I was saying he knows there are a lot of people (like me) who do not appreciate RPGM grind mechanics, and thus, the cheat book is there. And I commented that the gameplay as well as the story, are not worth it (for me) without the porn when you need a walkthrough to figure out much of anything due to the very vague quest descriptions. There are obviously people who cannot always tell the devs intentions within the game and are even in this thread asking for help. That, alone, says enough.

Anyway, I still enjoy the game. I'm not even saying it's bad. But there are bad aspects about it that could be improved.
 
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GetOutOfMyLab said:
I never said he didn't care. I was saying he knows there are a lot of people (like me) who do not appreciate RPGM grind mechanics, and thus, the cheat book is there. And I commented that the gameplay as well as the story, are not worth it (for me) without the porn when you need a walkthrough to figure out much of anything due to the very vague quest descriptions. There are obviously people who cannot always tell the devs intentions within the game and are even in this thread asking for help. That, alone, says enough.

Anyway, I still enjoy the game. I'm not even saying it's bad. But there are bad aspects about it that could be improved.
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The Cheatbook may also work to reduce the RPG mechanics but it's intension was to speed up the initial grinding as it was included after former save games became invalid once before.
If you combine dialogues, with the Questlog you should find 99-100% of the Quest related stuff easily, the Walkthrough is pretty much only there for the scenes that require a certain ammount of Affection and/or corruption scores.

I don't know what kind of story is entising for you but given that the game is both driven by gameplay and story I wonder what makes you stay around considering that you hate both.
 
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Evangelion-01 said:
The Cheatbook may also work to reduce the RPG mechanics but it's intension was to speed up the initial grinding as it was included after former save games became invalid once before.
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Fair enough.

Evangelion-01 said:
If you combine dialogues, with the Questlog you should find 99-100% of the Quest related stuff easily, the Walkthrough is pretty much only there for the scenes that require a certain ammount of Affection and/or corruption scores.
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Well in the case of the collar, I've been unable to.

Evangelion-01 said:
I don't know what kind of story is entising for you but given that the game is both driven by gameplay and story I wonder what makes you stay around considering that you hate both.
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Is everything all or nothing for you? I can't hate grind but like other gameplay? I can't think this isn't the best story ever, but still enjoy the things I think are good about it?

Enticing? Desert Stalker is a perfect example of enticing.
 
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Ok... Just hope Chyos don't follow the same steps of the dev of Renryuu Ascencion and lose the way adding grind things over grind things. This update, dont know why, give me bad vibes. I dont wanna bad vibes from one of the few games i follow. Lets we all hold hands and pray to Athia.

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Is this a game what's the name ?
 
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GetOutOfMyLab said:
Well in the case of the collar, I've been unable to.
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I am still waiting for the full download to be available but from what you said the dialogue still told you about the location of the collar Syfa is allied with Gwen/Isha hence my previous advice to check with her as she is also the Person that started MCs struggle
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Is everything all or nothing for you? I can't hate grind but like other gameplay? I can't think this isn't the best story ever, but still enjoy the things I think are good about it?
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I mean in your Post you weren't giving a single positive remark so based on that I consider the question valid.
I won't fight over it though.
 
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GetOutOfMyLab said:
I never said he didn't care. I was saying he knows there are a lot of people (like me) who do not appreciate RPGM grind mechanics, and thus, the cheat book is there. And I commented that the gameplay as well as the story, are not worth it (for me) without the porn when you need a walkthrough to figure out much of anything due to the very vague quest descriptions. There are obviously people who cannot always tell the devs intentions within the game and are even in this thread asking for help. That, alone, says enough.

Anyway, I still enjoy the game. I'm not even saying it's bad. But there are bad aspects about it that could be improved.
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Nah you said the dev knows that the game isn’t worth playing without gameplay and story alone, but I digress let’s not delve more into this although it’s understandable then if it is a subjective feeling I could say the same for certain games like Desert Stalker that I personally don’t find enticing (Yeah my respectability is gone, cancel me who cares).
And although the questions vary from completely justified to “I don’t want to use my brain”, I know there are some parts that need to be polished or fixed, like the questlog, and some elements that are outright annoying, (One example in this update, is that all monks should keep the info option about the murder) but be free to tell me or pm feedback to me, so I can report it, so the game can be more enjoyable also to future newcomers for reworking and rebalancing the issues.
Let’s rejoice as fans
 
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moon20 said:
I can't seems to find the ledger (or whatever the clue for 12 in hand means), Also there is nothing to find in Adson room after the diary clue
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Try checking each room in the area your bedroom is in. Particularly the one in the far left.

Also I'm trying to frame Matthias but it seems I am softlocked in to proving Antonius Guilty, Am I missing something?
 
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