RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

Same justification as to Abraham not being a cuck for sitting on a chair while a random guy in a mask fucks his wife while she keeps insulting him because he wants it and have the power to end it, right?... you may see a hot scene, I see a loser and a bitch. Everyone has different perspectives.

Forget it… Why do I keep talking to you…? I'm tired, and my reading comprehension keeps getting lower while talking to you… a side effect of having to explain the same thing 10 times to a guy that cannot see past the specific thing he is fixated on… I'm off. Bye and good luck.

Edit: In my first post I said that next time I play the game I would do so with NTR off because now I know; you literally just repeated me. Thanks, Captain Obvious.

The MC is the bull in both scenes. Bjorn is the one in the chair. Have you even seen It?

I had to state the obvious because you still need to vent. If the solution was obvious to you, you wouldn't still be upset about it.

 

[Apartment817]

Ok, I have to respond to this one. See what I say about you having negative reading comprehension? I said that ABRAHAM was a cuck, NOT FUCKING MC. Do you even know English? It is not my native language, and yet I think I speak it better than you.

What I said was that you are trying to use the same argument that others try to use to say that Abraham is not a cuck because he wants it and apply it to the MC.

This reading comprehension speech is rich.

In the Abraham and Elizabeth Scene:

MC or farmhand = bull
Abraham = Cuck

In the Claire and Bjorn Scene:
MC = Bull
Bjorn = Cuck

To complete the quest you don't even have to have Bjorn get a blowjob. The scene / quest ends when the MC cums and Bjorn is masturbating. Notice how the option is there to "cum" ending the scene. No penetration of Claire by Bjorn. How exactly is this the MC getting cucked? lol.



Only if you push and repeat the scene can you get her suck on him, but isn't necessary since the quest has finished.



(then if you anally train her you can switch to a DP scene).

((If anyone is wondering, in the morning scene with Claire by the fire, she tells the MC to bang her tits together like church bells. Hence why I call her Bells.))

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Bjorn's Obsession is completed by letting Bjorn be an Abraham. The MC is not cucked in the slightest.

But do go on about how you comprehend what is going on here, and I don't.

 

[Chii]

The NTR was intended to be a fetish for the player, where the main character is punished for the characters mistakes as a reward for the player. It is not there to be a punishment to player for making mistakes as a player.

This sentence tells me only that you weren't playing this game in the early years and that you failed to read the ntr warning note that is still there in the very beginning of the game (which no longer holds true to the feelings of the developer then.

Ntr at the beginning of the developing stage was never meant to be about sharing, but very much as punishment for either making the wrong choices or for failing to win a battle where a girl was nearby.
Due to either fan pressure or an evolution in Chyos tastes/goals this has evolved, but the feeling of the initial intended content is very clear.

Just like Just20 I have ntr on on most of my playthroughs because I want the feeling of danger of having a LI get corrupted by someone else in case I fail as a player or if I decide to check out a scene that I would otherwise have locked.
I couldn't care less about the defacto sharing options like Bianca and the goblin or Bjorn and Claire (and just like Just20 having an open quest that I have no intentions to follow through is a point of frustration whenever I see it in the open quests).

 

[Apartment817]

This sentence tells me only that you weren't playing this game in the early years and that you failed to read the ntr warning note that is still there in the very beginning of the game (which no longer holds true to the feelings of the developer then.
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Ntr at the beginning of the developing stage was never meant to be about sharing, but very much as punishment for either making the wrong choices or for failing to win a battle where a girl was nearby.
Due to either fan pressure or an evolution in Chyos tastes/goals this has evolved, but the feeling of the initial intended content is very clear.

Just like Just20 I have ntr on on most of my playthroughs because I want the feeling of danger of having a LI get corrupted by someone else in case I fail as a player or if I decide to check out a scene that I would otherwise have locked.
I couldn't care less about the defacto sharing options like Bianca and the goblin or Bjorn and Claire (and just like Just20 having an open quest that I have no intentions to follow through is a point of frustration whenever I see it in the open quests).

Pull the rest of that quote.

(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).
(it's always avoidable).


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You realize "always" means always, right? Meaning you have to chose to want to have the MC Punished. You have to chose to fail objectives.

You don't get NTR for just failing objectives.

You get NTR for choosing to fail certain objectives on purpose.

This means you idea of NTR being punishment for failing the game is impossible, since that's not how you get NTR. You get NTR for choosing to get NTR.

The failing objectives part is part of the NTR fantasy.

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If you choose to name Mira "Sister" then you are playing the way the game was intended to played.

The NTR was intended to be a fetish for the player, where the main character is punished for the characters mistakes as a reward for the player. It is not there to be a punishment to player for making mistakes as a player.


I have zero punishment NTR in my dozens of playthroughs, I leave the switch on because I want the MMF scenes.

Never said I played from 2017 to 2022ish, because I didn't.

But if you want to insist that it is a punishment to the player, tell we where the player can be punished by NTR without choosing to be punished. Where is that a punishment for playing bad, and not a choice the player makes?

Where is "(It's always avoidable)" not true? Where can't the NTR be avoided if you fail as a player? WHERE??????

 

[Chii]

Where is "(It's always avoidable)" not true? Where can't the NTR be avoided if you play wrong?

By losing a battle when a girl is nearby, just like I said in the post you just quoted.

 

[Apartment817]

By losing a battle when a girl is nearby, just like I said in the post you just quoted.

lol, what battle with possible NTR nearby is a challenge to win? The only way people see those scenes is through feign potions. You act like you can't easily avoid 95% of the battles, or revert to an older save if you find a battle too challenging.

Even if you ever did find such a battle and lose, you chose to watch the outcome, or you revert to an earlier save and level up first.


Once again it is not:

on = normal difficulty mode
off = easy difficulty mode

It's do you want to play with the intended NTR as a fetish for the player to enjoy, or does it upset you so much you want it removed from the game?

off = yes
on = no

 

[Chii]

lol, what battle with possible NTR nearby is a challenge to win? The only way people see those scenes is through feign potions.


Once again it is not:

on = normal difficulty mode
off = easy difficulty mode

It's do you want to play with the intended NTR as a fetish for the player to enjoy, or does it upset you so much you want it removed from the game?

off = yes
on = no

By all means, move the goal post, double down and argue a point that I never defended.
I won't sustain a convo because you seemingly have a bone to pick with an issue you can't or won't understand.

 

[Apartment817]

By all means, move the goal post, double down and argue a point that I never defended.
I won't sustain a convo because you seemingly have a bone to pick with an issue you can't or won't understand.

Except that losing battles aren't quest objectives. You called me out, I didn't call you. The bone to pick is yours.




Once again it is not:

on = normal difficulty mode
off = easy difficulty mode

It's do you want to play with the intended NTR as a fetish for the player to enjoy, or does it upset you so much you want it removed from the game?

off = yes
on = no

 

[storm1051787]

By all means, move the goal post, double down and argue a point that I never defended.
I won't sustain a convo because you seemingly have a bone to pick with an issue you can't or won't understand.

I've been staying out of this convo but there really is no challenge to keep ntr on. It is painful easy to avoid ntr in this game and you pretty much have to force ntr to happen. I understand the idea that it's supposed to be more challenging but it's 100% not

 

[Apartment817]

Don't indulge him like I did; he is either too stupid to get the point, too fixated on his own ideas to see other people's points of view, or pretending to have 10 IQ to piss off anyone he talks to.

It's just annoying as fuck about how often cry babies cry on hear about NTR. The game has NTR. Grow the fuck up.

It isn't just one of you, it's a couple every week. Same shit, same cry.

"But I don't want to see a dick in my scene, I am mad, Chyos is a bastard, he lied to me."

Shit gets annoying, so I am not conceding that you all are annoying with it.

 

[Apartment817]

Hey, brain dead, you worded that shit in a way that the person picking wouldn't know what to pick.

Is picking "off = yes"

for:

"It's do you want to play with the intended NTR as a fetish for the player to enjoy"

or:

"or does it upset you so much you want it removed from the game?"

which one do I get if I pick yes?

Sorry that I flipped on you, I went 1 then 2, then I went 2 then 1, guess that takes a lot of brain power to track, I will try to slow it down:

Netorare On = Normal Difficulty means, I want the fetish.
Neotrare Off = Easy difficulty means I can only handle computer image dicks that are pretend my dick, computer dicks that aren't my dick scare me I want it removed from the game.

 

[Chii]

I've been staying out of this convo but there really is no challenge to keep ntr on. It is painful easy to avoid ntr in this game and you pretty much have to force ntr to happen. I understand the idea that it's supposed to be more challenging but it's 100% not

While true, this is besides the point considering the topic started with Just20 mentioning that a quest is forced to stay open unless you openly choose to share a LI or scratch ntr completely off your playthrough at the beginning for the game.
Yes, the game is easy, yes, you have to go out of your way to chase ntr and no, this should not be an excuse to, for a lack of a better word, "force" netorase onto the player.

 

[Apartment817]

While true, this is besides the point considering the topic started with Just20 mentioning that a quest is forced to stay open unless you openly choose to share a LI or scratch ntr completely off your playthrough at the beginning for the game.
Yes, the game is easy, yes, you have to go out of your way to chase ntr and no, this should not be an excuse to, for a lack of a better word, "force" netorase onto the player.

Turn the switch off, and there is no force.

In all seriousness, if you hate NTR but left the switch on because you wanted the threat of being punished for playing badly, you got your wish.

Consider Bjorn's scene as punishment for playing badly when you left the switch on.

 

[Hansvoralb]

Does anyone know what all the options in the current poll are?

 

[Apartment817]

Does anyone know what all the options in the current poll are?

Open for another 54 days.

Sophie (+332): Depending on your previous decision, Sophie will face corresponding problems. Will you sell her out to the orcs to help win the war for her father? Have you made sure she is with Hekima and his men or did you warn her so that she ran off alone? It is for you to decide how her story continues.

Julia (+421): The marriage, after gaining Giron's trust you can finally marry Julia and let her move into your house. (Double marriage should Liandra be together with Dave) + new content for Yasmine when she visits her stepdaughter at your house. Another goal for this update is to add small repeatable task quests through which the MC can gain Giron's trust (In case you didn't get it already) and to make leveling up easier. For this the bulletin board infront of the inn will finally be integrated with tasks that the MC can work on. The goal is to rework the whole reputation system with this update and also add rewards to it.

Umah (+331): It is time to end the conflict with the orcs, either by force or diplomacy. Umah has the key role in this and so has her mother. Can the orcs accept a human to become their chieftain? (This will also affect Sophie's story, who is to become the chieftains bride)

Imawyn (+176): After all that has happened Imawyn wants to return to her kin in hope of reuniting with her father. The elves live hidden behind a veil of magic and only she can open the path for you. In the coming conflict the elves can become useful allies or deadly enemies. This as always will depend on your choices.

Tia (+376): Now that her desire for revenge has finally been satisfied, it's time to look to the future and her wish to have children can finally be fulfilled. It has been a while since Rumah has had offspring, the community has yet to adjust to this new situation.

Anya (+47): Her mother Haying is still a prisoner in Van's camp. (Depending on route so is Anya herself) It's time to sneak into the camp and free her. Or do you even need to sneak in? Maybe it's time to meet the prince and seal a deal with him. (Adding Haying as loveinterest + making her move into Anya's house which will also involve some renovation on it).

Mira (+58): After your return back home from the monastery Mira acts strange. Whatever happened to her during the ritual has changed her (Depending on choices). A return to the monastery in search of answers seems to be the best solution. In doing so, you advance into the catacombs beneath the monastery. (Expansion of the monastery with further interaction and revision of previous interactions. New content for the nuns and the possibility of taking Mira with you in your group).

Frisha: It’s time for Frisha to finally get married. Depending on the route, that might not just be the MC’s intention but also Giron’s (he couldn't have Emily, now he wants her daughter). The focus here will be on deciding the future of Arenfield and who will be in charge moving forward. (How far this will go will depend on previous updates)



So to interpret it:

	Current Poll Percent		Current Votes	Past Poll Votes		Total Votes
Sophie	13	13% of 519 is=	67	332		399
Julia	20	20% of 519 is=	104	421		525
Umah	9	9% of 519 is=	47	331		378
Imawyn	5	5% of 519 is=	26	176		202
Tia	33	33% of 519 is=	171	376		547
Anya	3	3% of 519 is=	16	47		63
Mira	7	7% of 519 is=	36	58		94
Frisha	10	10% of 519 is=	52	n/a		52

 

[frostpaw]

Wow, that's still quite the close race between Julia and Tia. Just 22 votes needed for a tie. But with the setup from the last bonus scene with Katherin I hope it stays in Tia's favor.
Maybe next time I'll join in and vote for Frisha. It would be so funny, if one could get her pregnant before Mira.

Thanks for the well arranged table, Apartment817.

 

[Apartment817]

and vote for Frisha.

That blue circle by Frisha denotes my vote. I knew it would be a long time before she has a chance of winning, but figured I would throw one that way for the future.

Two weeks ago, Julia was ahead.

So Julia started with 421 votes and has gained 90 votes (21.7% of 413 votes cast) bringing her to 511 so far.

Tia started with 376 and has gained 128 (30.9% of 413) bringing her to 504.

Since that time Julia has only gained 14 votes, while Tia has gained 43. I do think getting Katherin's cliff hanger has some to do with that. With a Tia update you will likely get three babies in Rumah. (Ayita, Tia and Katherin).

Last vote only had like 550 total votes cast, the votes average around 600. So only 30 to 80 votes are still out there. It's possible for Julia to win. But unlikely.

Just looking at the numbers, the next four are pretty certain. Tia, Julia, Sophie and Umah.

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I do find the math around it pretty interesting. Tia was popular enough to jump ahead of the four that have been on the list the longest.

I didn't realize how unpopular Sophie is, but that might be related to so little current content for folks to get connected to.

 

[The Senior Perv]

On The Road Again

Good afternoon,
It’s Friday again, which means it’s time to bring you up to date.
This week, as I mentioned last Friday, I finally started writing the quest. For that, I reworked parts of Kate’s questline to Kirlic into an alternative version. This now makes it possible to obtain Ophilia’s horse even if you haven’t yet reached that point in Kate’s quest. Of course, that required quite a few code adjustments to make sure that no matter when you start the quest, even if you’re already in the middle of Kate’s line, it picks up at the right point and both quests continue to function properly.
Once that part was working, I needed new sprites to show the MC riding the horse. And not just him, I also needed riding sprites for Lyvia, Tia, and Bianca. So, I may have spoken a bit too soon last Friday when I said I had all the sprites finished. Things got a bit more complicated when I decided I wanted diagonal sprites for the MC as well, because simply turning a horse by 90 degrees doesn’t just look strange, it completely breaks immersion. I therefore had to create another sprite set to properly show both trotting and, as seen in the gif, galloping. It took some time, but I’m really happy with how it turned out.
Today I started rewriting Bjorn’s quest in a similar way to how I did with Kate’s. I doubt I’ll be able to finish it today, though.
Which brings us to next week. I want to finish the 6.1.5 update as soon as possible, but for that I want everything up to the point of entering Kirlic completed. With the addition of taking a room at the new inn. Of course, we’ll also need at least one new scene to make things more engaging, so next week I’ll finally start working on a new scene with Tia, Lyvia, and Bianca. I’ll try to design it in a modular way, since not all three of them will necessarily be present, which will probably be a bit tricky. Besides that, I’ll continue writing the quest.

So a release next week is unlikely, but maybe in the week after... I don't want to make promises yet, but I'm aiming to get it done until then. By next Friday I hopefully know if it will be possible.
That’s all for now, I wish you all a nice weekend.

 

[wiretrppd]

If you keep watching her pray, Natasha's boobs should continue to shrink until they go back to their original size.

But only by one level each watch though.

Nope, not for me. I just tried it in the latest version and it doesn't reduce more than one level.

 

[rennerd]

Nope, not for me. I just tried it in the latest version and it doesn't reduce more than one level.

It's been a while since I did much with Natasha, but I remember her boobs growing, you getting the prompt to cleanse the holy water, and her boobs not shrinking from there. I assumed if they continued to grow, they would shrink back to that point, unless you reached the point of no return.