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Winterhowl Progress Update

Good afternoon,
It is getting dark outside once again, which means the week is almost over and it's time for another weekly update.

On Monday, I started by fixing remaining issues from the 0.6.1.5 update. I had already begun working on those last week, but since the fixes turned out to be more extensive than expected, and additional bug reports from before the update came in as well, it took almost all of Monday to resolve them.

On Tuesday, I then fully started working on the Sabrina scene. Of course, the most complex option out of all the choices ended up winning. :D
I was initially unsure whether I should even include it as an option, since I knew I could not implement it properly without adding additional context first. However, since it received the second-highest number of votes last year, I felt it was only fair to offer it again.

I began by updating Sabrina’s skin texture, which I had last worked on years ago, to bring it in line with the quality of other female characters. After that, it was necessary to rework her dialogue images, as many facial expressions were missing and I also wanted a consistent look with the new dialogue images I created for her winter outfit. I also created a new sprite set for that outfit.

That covers the graphical preparation. Next came the story context. I started by having Sabrina properly introduce herself to Athia. After all, the two had only met once before, and not under particularly good circumstances.

Once that event was written, including four slightly different dialogue variations depending on whether the player rebelled against Gwen and whether Sabrina drank a certain potion or not, I moved on to working on another small scene with Sarbina, that I felt was necessary to add to make a conection for the winterhowl scene. I worked on that scene until just recently, editing images, rendering backgrounds, and writing dialogue. But it is still not completely finished. I hope to complete it in the coming hours before the day is over.

Which means that I have not even started working on the actual Christmas scene yet. That is a problem, because next week I realistically only have two full workdays. From the 24th until the end of the week, I will be spending time with my family and don't plan to work during that time.

I am therefore currently considering how I can still release something next week. What is certain is that the complete scene will only be finished in the week after Christmas. Unfortunately, that cannot be avoided due to the scope of the scene and the lack of prior context, that I now added.

However, I could at least release this first scene, which is nearly finished now, by Tuesday evening, together with a few smaller adjustments and additions. That would result in a reasonably rounded update, and I could then add the remaining part in the week after Christmas. It would certainly make me sleep better if I knew I released at least something in time for the holidays.

I assume that for many of you today was already the last working day before the holidays, so I would like to wish you all happy holidays and some well-deserved time to rest and celebrate!

And of course, I wish you all
a nice weekend!
 

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Katherine Katherine Katherine
Katherin is a typo
I consider you my personal fan.
So much waste of time
You are cute when you are mad and obsessed. Look at you wishing that I gave a fuck about you, while you desperately look for something that gives you the chance to address me. :love:

You'd think you'd at least check yourself before further wrecking yourself.

There are lots of ways to spell Catherine.

Katherine is one, but this game uses Katherin. I didn't correct the other person to be pedantic, I did it so that when they searched the forum the would find the posts that spell her name right. Searching for the wrong spelling, fewer hits, less correct help with their problem. Right spelling, more answers and more likely the right information about her.

Here is Chyos using her name, I bolded it for you, he used it at least five times in this paragraph:



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Good afternoon,
It’s Friday again, which means it’s time for another update on what I’ve managed to get done over the past week.
I started the week by wrapping up some image work I didn’t finish last Friday. Along the way, I also created two more animations for Katherin to help round out the campfire scene. During the week, someone asked whether it would be possible for Katherin to officially become the MC’s wanita, and yes, I do plan to add something like that, but only for the Chieftain’s route.
Aside from Katherin’s scene, I also tackled some bugs (thanks again for the reports!). The biggest one was an issue with the crafting system. Technically, it only affected a single item that never had any upgrade slots, no matter how high your skill level was. But while fixing that, I finally decided to address the bigger annoyance with the random upgrade slots (Even at max skill, items were stuck with 0–2 slots, when they were supposed to always have 2 permanently). After I figured out a solution, I had to go through and update every single item in the database individually with the new code (The code for how many slots an item gets is written into the create event right on each item, so there is no global event that manages it). That turned into a massive task and basically ate up an entire day. But it was really something that bothered me, so I'm happy that this now finally works.
Back to the main update: I also continued working on Katherin’s images and started writing her dialogues and coding things in. I’ve added her images into the game and began reworking the campfire scene so she can take part in it. I haven’t tackled all the transitions yet, and as I suspected last week, it’s going to be tricky to sync everything smoothly. Even the positions I set earlier had to be adjusted again, otherwise animations like Ayita’s walk toward the MC ended up looking awkward.
Which brings me to my plan of finishing everything today. And… realistically, even if I work late into the night, it’s not going to happen. There’s just too much left to do, and I also want the two paths (Dasan/Chieftain) to feel meaningfully different in terms of story. On top of that, the MC might not have a relationship with Katherin at all, so I need to make sure there are proper alternative dialogues and images for that case too (work on these images is mostly done by now).
So, I’ll need a bit more time to pull everything together into a polished result and I hope you will grant me that. I still hope that it won't take much longer. At present, I estimate that it should be feasible by around the first half of next week.... After that I want to begin working on the Kirlic update, which I am very much looking forward to.

I will provide you with further details on this next Friday.
For now I will return to my work and I wish you all a nice weekend!


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Here is her entry in the walkthrough sent out by Chyos:

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I will never stop laughing at "punks jump(ing) up to get beat down".

*kisses*
 
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HarveyNoSoul

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Were some quest progresses reset with this update? Because the last time I played, I'd already finished all the buildings in Darkholt and was in charge there, and I'd already finished with the demon at the church in the monestary, but now it's like I never did anything there. Was it reset intentionally or is this a bug? I really hated the minigame deconstructing those buildings (I sucked at Tetris) and don't really want to deal with those again.
 

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Were some quest progresses reset with this update? Because the last time I played, I'd already finished all the buildings in Darkholt and was in charge there, and I'd already finished with the demon at the church in the monestary, but now it's like I never did anything there. Was it reset intentionally or is this a bug? I really hated the minigame deconstructing those buildings (I sucked at Tetris) and don't really want to deal with those again.
Are you sure you loaded the right save? I didn't run into that issue, nothing reset. None of the subscribers reported that issue either, and most folks imported saves from older updates.
 

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Are you sure you loaded the right save? I didn't run into that issue, nothing reset. None of the subscribers reported that issue either, and most folks imported saves from older updates.
Yeah, I imported the saves from the previous version I played (0.6.1.1.b), over 100 hours of playtime.
 

HarveyNoSoul

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Are you sure you loaded the right save? I didn't run into that issue, nothing reset. None of the subscribers reported that issue either, and most folks imported saves from older updates.
Okay, recopied the saves from the previous version and overwrote the previously imported saves, loaded it up and it worked this time. I probably copied from the wrong version. Weirdly the game version listed on the save file says 0.6.1.0c, even if I overwrite it while playing the latest version.
 
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Okay, recopied the saves from the previous version and overwrote the previously imported saves, loaded it up and it worked this time. I probably copied from the wrong version. Weirdly the game version listed on the save file says 0.6.1.0c, even if I overwrite it while playing the latest version.
The version listed when you load the save always shows the version they were created under, it doesn't effect anything, just the way it is. If create a new game, it would show v0.6.1.5. Content isn't limited, just a label.

Glad you were able to get the completed Darkholt and Monastery save working.
 

Bahamut Zero

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I have snow, and pumpkins. In real life December, in game it's October.

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From what you can see in my game, it's September. Now in "rl" it's December, so there should be snow, because in our real calendar, it's December. The game gives us two ways to see this change. The first is with the in-game calendar. And the second is with the real one. But as you can see in my game, the Christmas event has started, but the snow hasn't fallen. So either it's a bug. Or did Chyos mess with something in the last two versions of the game, disabling this option? ( I also tried with the old version v0.6.1.1b and nothing there either.) But seeing as it's already snowing in your game, it means either snow falls in the game around October. Or it's actually because we're in December in the real month. So my save is bugged? Or is there something disabled?

By the way, you also have the Halloween event active. I think it's due to the month of October in the game.

I don't know if it can be useful to you, this is my save, it should be the 22, which in the game is the 23, since the autosave takes the number 1

Thank you
 
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View attachment 5542966

From what you can see in my game, it's September. Now in "rl" it's December, so there should be snow, because in our real calendar, it's December. The game gives us two ways to see this change. The first is with the in-game calendar. And the second is with the real one. But as you can see in my game, the Christmas event has started, but the snow hasn't fallen. So either it's a bug. Or did Chyos mess with something in the last two versions of the game, disabling this option? ( I also tried with the old version v0.6.1.1b and nothing there either.) But seeing as it's already snowing in your game, it means either snow falls in the game around October. Or it's actually because we're in December in the real month. So my save is bugged? Or is there something disabled?

By the way, you also have the Halloween event active. I think it's due to the month of October in the game.

I don't know if it can be useful to you, this is my save, it should be the 22, which in the game is the 23, since the autosave takes the number 1

Thank you

First, yeah in my play through I already killed the Ancient One (October event).

Secondly, I did just learn that snow isn't a real life December thing in the game. Events are effected by both calendars (mysterious eggs, pumpkins, winterhowl), but the weather outside is dependent on the in-game calendar ONLY.

December events are active in your save, from the point it loads in the garden next to the queen, I ran up here to by Corven's to look. This tree tells me all Winterhowl events are active. The snow here is the only place I found it with your save in September.

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If you cut that tree down, Krampus will spawn:

Luca Krampus.png

Then I just skipped 20 days using your save to get to October. You'll see snow when you get to October in-game. (That quest is active because I loaded your save using v0.6.1.5, entering Arenfield automatically activates it if you have already read Marcus's letter. Check the stats, it's your save.)

Luca Snow.png
 

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Wait Katherin can get pregnant now? She has a fertilization scene that wasn't there before.
Was added in v0.6.1.1, she doesn't get a belly or give birth yet. But that will likely be added later this year since Tia is likely going to win the v0.6.3.0 polling.

This is the description of her update:

"Tia: Now that her desire for revenge has finally been satisfied, it's time to look to the future and her wish to have children can finally be fulfilled. It has been a while since Rumah has had offspring, the community has yet to adjust to this new situation."
 

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According to changelog it says 3 new maps. Does anyone knows which are these 3 new maps?
There isn't anything to do in any of them, but they are the gate to get into Kirlic, inside Kirlic proper, inside "The Old Goose" (bar in Kirlic).
 

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Winterhowl Progress Update

Good afternoon,
It is getting dark outside once again, which means the week is almost over and it's time for another weekly update.

On Monday, I started by fixing remaining issues from the 0.6.1.5 update. I had already begun working on those last week, but since the fixes turned out to be more extensive than expected, and additional bug reports from before the update came in as well, it took almost all of Monday to resolve them.

On Tuesday, I then fully started working on the Sabrina scene. Of course, the most complex option out of all the choices ended up winning. :D
I was initially unsure whether I should even include it as an option, since I knew I could not implement it properly without adding additional context first. However, since it received the second-highest number of votes last year, I felt it was only fair to offer it again.

I began by updating Sabrina’s skin texture, which I had last worked on years ago, to bring it in line with the quality of other female characters. After that, it was necessary to rework her dialogue images, as many facial expressions were missing and I also wanted a consistent look with the new dialogue images I created for her winter outfit. I also created a new sprite set for that outfit.

That covers the graphical preparation. Next came the story context. I started by having Sabrina properly introduce herself to Athia. After all, the two had only met once before, and not under particularly good circumstances.

Once that event was written, including four slightly different dialogue variations depending on whether the player rebelled against Gwen and whether Sabrina drank a certain potion or not, I moved on to working on another small scene with Sarbina, that I felt was necessary to add to make a conection for the winterhowl scene. I worked on that scene until just recently, editing images, rendering backgrounds, and writing dialogue. But it is still not completely finished. I hope to complete it in the coming hours before the day is over.

Which means that I have not even started working on the actual Christmas scene yet. That is a problem, because next week I realistically only have two full workdays. From the 24th until the end of the week, I will be spending time with my family and don't plan to work during that time.

I am therefore currently considering how I can still release something next week. What is certain is that the complete scene will only be finished in the week after Christmas. Unfortunately, that cannot be avoided due to the scope of the scene and the lack of prior context, that I now added.

However, I could at least release this first scene, which is nearly finished now, by Tuesday evening, together with a few smaller adjustments and additions. That would result in a reasonably rounded update, and I could then add the remaining part in the week after Christmas. It would certainly make me sleep better if I knew I released at least something in time for the holidays.

I assume that for many of you today was already the last working day before the holidays, so I would like to wish you all happy holidays and some well-deserved time to rest and celebrate!

And of course, I wish you all
a nice weekend!
So this update was the introduction to kirlic and the next will be a sabrina update along with winterhowl, wish it continued to in kirlic, but it is what it is.

One thing I've noticed, and I'll probably be labeled a "hater" here or whatever despite me liking the game and liking chyos, but he desperately needs to get better at time management, maybe my perception is skewed, but it seems like every update a portion of it is him justifying why the update will either take longer or have to be chopped up to meet the deadline.

I don't expect updates to be meet the deadline every time, especially around this time of the year, but this seems like a constant issue in my eyes.
 
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First, yeah in my play through I already killed the Ancient One (October event).

Secondly, I did just learn that snow isn't a real life December thing in the game. Events are effected by both calendars (mysterious eggs, pumpkins, winterhowl), but the weather outside is dependent on the in-game calendar ONLY.

December events are active in your save, from the point it loads in the garden next to the queen, I ran up here to by Corven's to look. This tree tells me all Winterhowl events are active. The snow here is the only place I found it with your save in September.

View attachment 5543009

If you cut that tree down, Krampus will spawn:

View attachment 5543018

Then I just skipped 20 days using your save to get to October. You'll see snow when you get to October in-game. (That quest is active because I loaded your save using v0.6.1.5, entering Arenfield automatically activates it if you have already read Marcus's letter. Check the stats, it's your save.)

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Great, at least now we know that snow isn't tied to the Christmas event, but only falls if it's winter or a cold month in the game (so only the in-game calendar). Our calendar and the in-game calendar only trigger their respective events, such as Christmas, Halloween, Easter, or other similar events. Apparently, my memories of snow and Christmas matched a month from October onward in the game. Perhaps in my later games, I always ended up coinciding with both events (weather and holidays). Thanks for testing this.

Thank you
 

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So this update was the introduction to kirlic and the next will be a sabrina update along with winterhowl, wish it continued to in kirlic, but it is what it is.

One thing I've noticed, and I'll probably be labeled a "hater" here or whatever despite me liking the game and liking chyos, but he desperately needs to get better at time management, maybe my perception is skewed, but it seems like every update a portion of it is him justifying why the update will either take longer or have to be chopped up to meet the deadline.

I don't expect updates to be meet the deadline every time, especially around this time of the year, but this seems like a constant issue in my eyes.
Here, I predict a year and a half from now Chyos will still not have gotten done with his current update that he wishes he got done.

If you choose to be upset by that, you are guilty of the very same thing you are upset at him for doing. (Using the same inputs, expecting a different outcome.)

Scheduling creative projects is next to impossible. Have you ever made art? Just because you strap in and want to work, doesn't mean the quality arting happens.

Every week Chyos is responsible for reporting to us subscribers on how he used his time, that also isn't an easy task. Have you ever done that? Written a progress report on how you did your job, every week?

I would much rather support an artist that aims at targets just out of their reach, and miss every single time. Then support someone that only aims at easy to reach goals in order to always accomplish them.

Unless you are deciding whether or not to give Chyos real money, complaining about a project you are stealing is being a "hater". I get it, you want new updates, because you like the game, but remember a real person, trying hard has their livelihood effected by folks discouraging folks from supporting their work.
 

Overlord070

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Here, I predict a year and a half from now Chyos will still not have gotten done with his current update that he wishes he got done.

If you choose to be upset by that, you are guilty of the very same thing you are upset at him for doing. (Using the same inputs, expecting a different outcome.)

Scheduling creative projects is next to impossible. Have you ever made art? Just because you strap in and want to work, doesn't mean the quality arting happens.

Every week Chyos is responsible for reporting to us subscribers on how he used his time, that also isn't an easy task. Have you ever done that? Written a progress report on how you did your job, every week?

I would much rather support an artist that aims at targets just out of their reach, and miss every single time. Then support someone that only aims at easy to reach goals in order to always accomplish them.

Unless you are deciding whether or not to give Chyos real money, complaining about a project you are stealing is being a "hater". I get it, you want new updates, because you like the game, but remember a real person, trying hard has their livelihood effected by folks discouraging folks from supporting their work.
I have given chyos money and more than once actually, but not every time, so I don't care about being accused of stealing or not everyone on this forum has done it, it's a pointless moral argument to make from a thief to another. In my opinion, he should set more realistic goals for himself, but I understand it's not always possible.

I don't expect everything on time, especially in months when haven't contributed and around holidays, but this is just something I've noticed in every update post I have looked at, and it's criticism that chyos should have no issues with accepting he could do better in imo.
 
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