Mod Ren'Py A Town Unfiltered - A Town Uncovered Mod [Wolfregis]

[RoughlySpecific]

Having read the story outlines I think I know where my confusion came from. I thought this was based on the sex world from a town uncovered, just with a different story. Instead this seems to be a corruption type game wherein you take "normal" people and change them. Very different genre.

Slut route, will fuck other characters, freeuse route, will fuck other characters, love/wife route, would fuck other characters.

The routes, for example, make less sense to me in a sex world, but they fit a corruption/cult type game very well.

None of them really treat sex as a normal casual thing in the way a sex world where everyone does it would. The concept of "slut" does not fit unless you take your sex activities beyond the normal, and would mean something completely different in a world where everyone is already having sex. Freeuse also seems like more of a dedication of a lot of time beyond sex just being a casual activity.

it may shock you, but not all the girls are bisex or lesbian

I do realize that not every single threesome includes every single person being into every other person. The point was that if the other two are also into each other, then being uncomfortable with them being into each other and acting on it seems weird to me if you are actively pursuing both at the same time. Personal taste, but personally I don’t get it.

 

[StarCreator]

The point was that if the other two are also into each other, then being uncomfortable with them being into each other and acting on it seems weird to me if you are actively pursuing both at the same time.

I definitely got what you meant. I think for him the definition of a wife/lover route is strictly a mutual monogamous attraction even if it's in a game; I see where he's coming from, and I of course agree with the sentiment in real life (since I don't see polyamory being feasible and/or sustainable in today's society, nor would I want it to be for my own relationships), but games for some people including myself are ways to explore "perfect" harem fantasies. It's kind of hard to reconcile having both of these conflicting ideologies maybe, but we can just tell ourselves that games aren't reality and don't necessarily need to reflect every part of it. After all, there are examples like you can want to "kill" people in Call of Duty, but would never commit acts of murder in real life. That's a bit of an extreme example, but it still gets the point across.

Tbh I think his belief is an anomaly on this forum lol, but we all have our own opinions on these things and that's perfectly fine.

 

[Mayonesa]

The point was that if the other two are also into each other, then being uncomfortable with them being into each other and acting on it seems weird to me if you are actively pursuing both at the same time. Personal taste, but personally I don’t get it.

That's a big "IF", if we are pursuing them and we get them in the lover/wife route, they having feelings for the other girls kinda don't work, since they are in the lover route and have feelings for the MC, not each other. When you make a character fall for the MC, you are not making them fall for the other girls he may have, you are making her fall for the MC, so them having feelings/ feel attracted to other girls doesn't make sense.

I definitely got what you meant. I think for him the definition of a wife/lover route is strictly a mutual monogamous attraction even if it's in a game; I see where he's coming from, and I of course agree with the sentiment in real life (since I don't see polyamory being feasible and/or sustainable in today's society, nor would I want it to be for my own relationships), but games for some people including myself are ways to explore "perfect" harem fantasies. It's kind of hard to reconcile having both of these conflicting ideologies maybe, but we can just tell ourselves that games aren't reality and don't necessarily need to reflect every part of it. After all, there are examples like you can want to "kill" people in Call of Duty, but would never commit acts of murder in real life. That's a bit of an extreme example, but it still gets the point across.

Tbh I think his belief is an anomaly on this forum lol, but we all have our own opinions on these things and that's perfectly fine.

I see romance as a commitment between each other in games, even if you got another girl as the MC, they should love the MC, not the MC and the other girls, that's different. It's like I love you and you love me, and if the MC get another one there is no need to make the woman bisex because reasons.

I like the harem genre, but I mean the real harem genre. The one where the girls are in love with the MC and they can decide to share the MC or the MC convince them to share him, but the focus of the girls should be the MC, not MC + his other girls. The "harem" shown in most games this site isn't a real harem, but more of a polyrelationship, the harem kink/genre is where the girls focus in the MC and only want him, if they start having sex between each of the girls even without including the MC, then that's not harem, it's a polyrelationship, different kind of kink, even if many devs make the girls in the harem bisex just to make it easier to do the threesome, it's a bad move, since with that you lose some of the romance folks that also enjoy harems, because if everyone fucks everyone, including girls that are in the harem and didn't talk at all during the game between each other but since they share the same dick they must fuck or so think many devs,it kind of kills all the character progression when you suddently make a girl that was in love with the MC turn bisex because it makes scenes easier.

But well, I already said this game isn't for me, since all the routes will end in the same way, they will fuck other characters than the MC, and I don't like to be forced to share in games and don't like forced content in general so...

 

[StarCreator]

I like the harem genre, but I mean the real harem genre. The one where the girls are in love with the MC and they can decide to share the MC or the MC convince them to share him, but the focus of the girls should be the MC, not MC + his other girls. The "harem" shown in most games this site isn't a real harem, but more of a polyrelationship, the harem kink/genre is where the girls focus in the MC and only want him, if they start having sex between each of the girls even without including the MC, then that's not harem, it's a polyrelationship, different kind of kink, even if many devs make the girls in the harem bisex just to make it easier to do the threesome, it's a bad move, since with that you lose some of the romance folks that also enjoy harems, because if everyone fucks everyone, including girls that are in the harem and didn't talk at all during the game between each other but since they share the same dick they must fuck or so think many devs,it kind of kills all the character progression when you suddently make a girl that was in love with the MC turn bisex because it makes scenes easier.

Yeah dude, I get you. Thanks for elaborating. I suppose a good amount of people on here will settle for a specific subset of the harem genre, and yes a lot of the times it does make it easier for threesome scenes, etc. I hope I didn't offend you or anything, that wasn't the intention of my comment haha.

 

[Mayonesa]

Yeah dude, I get you. Thanks for elaborating. I suppose a good amount of people on here will settle for a specific subset of the harem genre, and yes a lot of the times it does make it easier for threesome scenes, etc. I hope I didn't offend you or anything, that wasn't the intention of my comment haha.

Nah it's ok I wasn't offended at all, I just wanted to expand some of what I think, nothing more. But I get yours and other points and if you like the mod/game then I hope you enjoy it when it comes out .

 

[Wolfregis]

please add rape or blackmail that isn't in the form of mind control

Okay first thing's first. I'm not gonna be writing any rape content. Not because I hate that particular kink but I'm not comfortable with writing that sort of content, because it can quickly drift towards edgelord territory if handled poorly. As for blackmail, that's what I've got planned for the Officer Mina content it will have more of a manipulation through misdirection or deceit.

Having read the story outlines I think I know where my confusion came from. I thought this was based on the sex world from a town uncovered, just with a different story. Instead this seems to be a corruption type game wherein you take "normal" people and change them. Very different genre.

Prior to our revamp of the story it was intended to take place in the sex world but we decided to redo the story entirely for the sake of making a stronger narrative.

I see romance as a commitment between each other in games, even if you got another girl as the MC, they should love the MC, not the MC and the other girls, that's different. It's like I love you and you love me, and if the MC get another one there is no need to make the woman bisex because reasons.

I like the harem genre, but I mean the real harem genre. The one where the girls are in love with the MC and they can decide to share the MC or the MC convince them to share him, but the focus of the girls should be the MC, not MC + his other girls. The "harem" shown in most games this site isn't a real harem, but more of a polyrelationship,

While I disagree on that particular definition of the harem as a genre I get where you're coming from, if I may however interject, some of the greatest harem stories ever written prior to the genre's popularization by anime and other such media had bisexual characters. If you look at history even take the Mughal harems of India, or Mongolian China, bisexual individuals existed within harems and had relationships within them. Those harems are in part what I'm basing most of those interactions between the female characters on.

 

[Randy15]

Amazing idea! is a good game but totally agre with you is a litle limited and deserves more "Action" and interactions

 

[Wolfregis]

Amazing idea! is a good game but totally agre with you is a litle limited and deserves more "Action" and interactions

Sorry would you mind elaborating?

 

[Randy15]

Sorry would you mind elaborating?

Sorry English is not my language... i mean the original game has a lot of "Places" with no interactions or totally less of sexual content

 

[Wolfregis]

Sorry english is not my language... i mean the game has a lot of "Places" with no interactions or totally less of sexual content

It's alright. As far as places where things will happen that's gonna be a little limited in the new build, but as time goes on we plan to add more interactive events and characters to certain areas.

 

[Mayonesa]

While I disagree on that particular definition of the harem as a genre I get where you're coming from, if I may however interject, some of the greatest harem stories ever written prior to the genre's popularization by anime and other such media had bisexual characters. If you look at history even take the Mughal harems of India, or Mongolian China, bisexual individuals existed within harems and had relationships within them. Those harems are in part what I'm basing most of those interactions between the female characters on.

I can see where you got the idea and where you are basing the characters. In all our history there have been many different kind of "harem" in different cultures, the thing is that even when there were some bisex people in the harem, it wasn't the norm.

But since the era of anime/novels/manga and even before that, the genre is what it is, one guy/girl that have multiple girls/boys interested in him/her and only want him/her and can later decide to share him/her or not. In the eroges and porn games, it kind of imply them having sex with the MC, but not with each other. If you put the girls of an harem, having sex between each other without the MC being there or allowing it, it makes that not the harem genre, but the polyrelationship one, which isn't the same as the harem genre/kink.

It's like using the word NTR to every time we see someone who isn't the MC having sex, it is a missused definition, the same happens when you have a polyrelationship kind of game and calls it an harem, it has some kind of points shared, but that's it, it isn't the same. And there would be people who like harem and don't want to share the girls even with other girls that are in the "harem".

That said I kind of see that since there is no real poly tag, you will use the harem, but I just wanted to point that even if you see a genre different of what it is, it doesn't change what the genre/kink really is. I can say that gay genre originally was about one guy who was wearing girl clothes but had no sex with males, but that doesn't mean I'm right.

 

[Randy15]

It's alright. As far as places where things will happen that's gonna be a little limited in the new build, but as time goes on we plan to add more interactive events and characters to certain areas.

Are you working on it? amazing!!! we apreciate a lot, im expentant to see your work

 

[Wolfregis]

I can see where you got the idea and where you are basing the characters. In all our story there have been many different kind of "harem" in different cultures, the thing is that even when there were some bisex people in the harem, it wasn't the norm.

But since the era of anime/novels/manga and even before that, the genre is what it is, one guy/girl that have multiple girls/boys interested in him/her and only want him/her and can later decide to share him/her or not. In the eroges and porn games, it kind of imply them having sex with the MC, but not with each other. If you put the girls of an harem, having sex between each other without the MC being there or allowing it, it makes that not the harem genre, but the polyrelationship one, which isn't the same as the harem genre/kink.

It's like using the word NTR to every time we see someone who isn't the MC having sex, it is a missused definition, the same happens when you have a polyrelationship kind of game and calls it an harem, it has some kind of points shared, but that's it, it isn't the same. And there would be people who like harem and don't want to share the girls even with other girls that are in the "harem".

That said I kind of see that since there is no real poly tag, you will use the harem, but I just wanted to point that even if you see a genre different of what it is, it doesn't change what the genre/kink really is. I can say that gay genre originally was about one guy who was wearing girl clothes but had no sex with males, but that doesn't mean I'm right.

Again I can see you're point but the harem genre isn't really limited to a singular definition. To me a harem can have interaction between other characters without falling into a polyrelationship. To me a polyrelationship implies that they're love for the another person is nearly equal to or matches their love for the main character. If it's mutual pleasure I don't really see that as a betrayal of the harem genre. Again though that's just my outlook on the harem genre.

 

[Mikuby]

Again I can see you're point but the harem genre isn't really limited to a singular definition. To me a harem can have interaction between other characters without falling into a polyrelationship. To me a polyrelationship implies that they're love for the another person is nearly equal to or matches their love for the main character. If it's mutual pleasure I don't really see that as a betrayal of the harem genre. Again though that's just my outlook on the harem genre.

Harem is a power fantasy, where you have women that wants you and only you to the point of even sharing you, but if they start having sex between each other it kind of broke the harem fantasy, since they are looking for other partners that aren't the MC to sate each other lust, for it to be harem, the MC must be in the sex scenes that happens with members of his harem, if he is not there and even if they are sating their lust between each other, it defiles the harem genre, I don't know if it would be poly if it doesn't include love, but I'm sure that it wouldn't be called harem, since what's the point of having an harem of women that want to be with you if they decide to sate their lust fucking each other instead of you?

Besides that would make every woman in the harem bisex, and it isn't really common tbh. It's the easy way out, at least for me. If I have an harem, I want the member in them interested in me, not in me and the other girls, even if like you said it was only for mutual pleasure, they should go for the guy they love/want that much they are up for sharing him. If they fuck each other it isn't the harem genre, it's something different. I know people may have different definition of what a thing is, but I can't call and orange an apple, and say that it's the way I see it, the same can't happen with kinks or genres in games. Imagine doing a call of duty game, calling it a shooter and when you go and play the game, it isn't a shooter but a live your life simulator where the only thing you shoot are dards in a game, would it be ok for me to call that a shooter game and say it was my onlook on the genre?

Sorry for getting in the middle of your conversation, but I like harem games, the kink and the genre, and when the girls involved are having sex between each other with the Mc being in other place, and the dev/writer call the game harem, it irks me.

 

[Mayonesa]

Again I can see you're point but the harem genre isn't really limited to a singular definition. To me a harem can have interaction between other characters without falling into a polyrelationship. To me a polyrelationship implies that they're love for the another person is nearly equal to or matches their love for the main character. If it's mutual pleasure I don't really see that as a betrayal of the harem genre. Again though that's just my outlook on the harem genre.

All the genres/kinks/things have a single deffinition, it may have different sub-genres, but calling a thing harem and it being other thing isn't right. You have your own vision in what makes the game an harem and even if it isn't what the genre/kink is about, it's your opinion on the genre, so I won't say anything more about it, other than I disagree with you.

About the polyrelationship,if they are looking for other partners to have sex other than the MC and he is ok with it, is a polyrelationship, since he knows about it, it isn't really needed the love them part, since it can form later on the road. Many polyrelationships start with some members of said relationship having sex with someone they fancy and that have informed about to the other members of the relationship, that later on may evolve in to love but start just physically, so it will defile the purpose of having harem, but again if it's your vision I will move on.

 

[Wolfregis]

Harem is a power fantasy, where you have women that wants you and only you to the point of even sharing you, but if they start having sex between each other it kind of broke the harem fantasy, since they are looking for other partners that aren't the MC to sate each other lust, for it to be harem, the MC must be in the sex scenes that happens with members of his harem, if he is not there and even if they are sating their lust between each other, it defiles the harem genre, I don't know if it would be poly if it doesn't include love, but I'm sure that it wouldn't be called harem, since what's the point of having an harem of women that want to be with you if they decide to sate their lust fucking each other instead of you?

Besides that would make every woman in the harem bisex, and it isn't really common tbh. It's the easy way out, at least for me. If I have an harem, I want the member in them interested in me, not in me and the other girls, even if like you said it was only for mutual pleasure, they should go for the guy they love/want that much they are up for sharing him. If they fuck each other it isn't the harem genre, it's something different. I know people may have different definition of what a thing is, but I can't call and orange an apple, and say that it's the way I see it, the same can't happen with kinks or genres in games. Imagine doing a call of duty game, calling it a shooter and when you go and play the game, it isn't a shooter but a live your life simulator where the only thing you shoot are dards in a game, would it be ok for me to call that a shooter game and say it was my onlook on the genre?

Sorry for getting in the middle of your conversation, but I like harem games, the kink and the genre, and when the girls involved are having sex between each other with the Mc being in other place, and the dev/writer call the game harem, it irks me.

I can understand that viewpoint, but like I said to me harem has several definitions to it. Rather than being limited to a single definition I feel that the genre overall is far more flexible than people give it credit. And look I play and have played a lot of harem themed games so I'm familiar with the genre and hell I admire the passion people have for it. However, just because someone's definition of the genre differs doesn't it make it categorically less valid, because there is no one true definition of the harem genre. So to me an individual can have a harem and the members of those harem interact with each other but still overall be loyal to the MC, because their loyalty and love is directly tied to the MC.

All the genres/kinks/things have a single deffinition, it may have different sub-genres, but calling a thing harem and it being other thing isn't right. You have your own vision in what makes the game an harem and even if it isn't what the genre/kink is about, it's your opinion on the genre, so I won't say anything more about it, other than I disagree with you.

About the polyrelationship,if they are looking for other partners to have sex other than the MC and he is ok with it, is a polyrelationship, since he knows about it, it isn't really needed the love them part, since it can form later on the road. Many polyrelationships start with some members of said relationship having sex with someone they fancy and that have informed about to the other members of the relationship, that later on may evolve in to love but start just physically, so it will defile the purpose of having harem, but again if it's your vision I will move on.

Again I have to disagree a genre/kink isn't limited to a sole definition there are defining traits yes, but a sole definition? Have to disagree with that one. As the definition of the term varies based on culture, religion, socio-economic status and a variety of other factors. So there is no true definition of what the word 'harem' rather there's a generalized idea of what we as a society consider to be a harem. Anyway best of luck to you. Take care and be safe.

 

[ShadowWarrior]

Well, with that clear. I wanted to point out there should be some BGM for the nightclub.

 

[Wolfregis]

Well, with that clear. I wanted to point out there should be some BGM for the nightclub.

We'll get to that at some point in the future but for now, we're gonna focus on making and releasing a new version. After we get a consistent release schedule going we'll probably start adding music. It'll have to be open source though, unless we find someone willing to make a soundtrack pro bono. You do raise a good point though, as far as musical ambiance goes what style do you think we should go with? Anyone feel free to answer.

 

[ShadowWarrior]

We'll get to that at some point in the future but for now, we're gonna focus on making and releasing a new version. After we get a consistent release schedule going we'll probably start adding music. It'll have to be open source though, unless we find someone willing to make a soundtrack pro bono. You do raise a good point though, as far as musical ambiance goes what style do you think we should go with? Anyone feel free to answer.

Kevin MacLoed's work is open source and I got suggestions:
Nightclub -

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Fight Club -

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Two I could think of.

 

[Wolfregis]

Kevin MacLoed's work is open source and I got suggestions:
Nightclub -

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Fight Club -

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Two I could think of.

Okay Fight Club suggestion definitely gives off that greasy and dirty 50's aesthetic and I fucking love that.