Mod Ren'Py A Town Unfiltered - A Town Uncovered Mod [Wolfregis]

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Should I re-create the game to allow me to make more changes with the story or keep it the same?


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Wolfregis

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Update #1: Plot, Content, and Outlines.

Evening everyone, as promised this is first in our weekly update posts. As we continue working on the mod we want to keep you all informed of our progress and go into a bit more depth of what we're planning.

The Plot:
When discussing the matter of revamping the story we decided to go with the premise of the Town being initially normal before the MC is inducted into the Cult, who have been reworked to be worshipers of an old pagan deity. From there the MC's goal will be to influence and convert people to the Cult's cause changing the Town from a quiet suburbia to a place that revels in its debauchery. The MC will able to accomplish by two different ways, the first will targeting specified people, e.g. Principal Lashley, and Ms. Allaway, afterwords the MC will be able to set up rituals that will convert the area en masse. This will give everyone a reason to pursue character side stories as they help to tie back into the plot proper. Another thing I want to elaborate on is that it's our hope that we can show the areas in question undergoing changes as the Cult's influence grows more and more prominent. For example let's take the school bathrooms where they go from being separated to having gloryholes drilled in between the stalls. This would culminate in having booths installed, where someone could crawl in and get railed from both sides.

As for how long the Main Plot is going to be currently it's aimed to consist of Five Acts at the very least or Seven at the most. On the matter of character side stories as I said before we're going with a Five Act structure and I plan to write roughly three to four scenes per act. These scenes are to illustrate the changes that the individual is going through repeated interaction before their story moves on to it's next Act.

Content:
As far as content goes the plan is implement a wide range of kinks. However, I want to make this clear we will not be implementing certain kinks this includes but is not limited to: Snuff, Vore, Guro, Scat, Bestiality, Underage (Loli), Furry (Anthro or otherwise), Netorare, or Ear Sex. There may be more stuff that is added as time goes on but for now those are some of the big ones. We are not opposed to these kinks but for the purposes of the mod and story we want to tell, we will not be implementing them.

Outlines:
Currently we have the Mom's, Sister's, and Allaway's stories fully outlined. I should be done writing the quests and dialogue for the first two acts sometime this week or next. Sometime around Wednesday, barring any major incident, I'll be posting a more polished version of the outlines.

Other than it's be a rather productive few days, after I finish up the aforementioned quests and dialogues I'll move onto outlining other character side stories as well. In the mean time take care, be safe, and stay healthy everyone.
 
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Really appreciate the work you guys have been putting into this mod, it's basically all I wanted from the base game and more considering all the updates you've been giving us regarding progress with the mod
 

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As promised here's a preview of what we have outlined for some of the side stories. I want to emphasize that this is to give you an idea of what we're hoping to accomplish. While we have the entirety of each side story ironed out I felt divulging everything might take some of the fun out of playing through it. As stated before, v0.02 will focus on the first two Acts of the Mom's, Sister's and Allaway's side stories as well as that of the Main story proper. If you have any questions, comments, concerns, suggestions as far as the outlines go please let me know. The Acts themselves are to act as character introductions and establish the main crux of their arc.


Mom's Outline

Act 1: Loneliness.
This act focuses on interactions between the MC and his mother settling into their new home. There would be a clear emphasis that the father and mother's relationship is becoming strained. So the MC decides to get something that he hopes will remind his mother of happier times, like finding and restoring some old home movies, which is an activity that they'll do in the evenings. Second base achievement earned.
Act 2: Longing.
This act is focused on the MC's mother starting to realize that her relationship with the MC's father isn't being rekindled. So she begins to fantasize and search for a form of release. This would culminate in her discovering her incest fetish with the MC discovering this he proposes that they start watching videos and films with such themes together. Surprised and aroused by this she agrees and begins to fantasize her son replacing his father as the main man in her life. Possibly having her masturbate to the fantasy of starting a family with him.

Sister's Outline

Act 1: Questions
This act would likely take place prior to or immediately after the first initial changes to the Town happen, and would focus on the MC getting a text from his Sister at school asking Effie for advice on a certain guy. The MC not wanting to embarrass his sister decides to play the part of Effie. The dialogue would hint towards her actual feelings for the MC and give the player a choice of encouraging her to explore those feelings with the MC or suggest she seek release from other sources.
Act 2: Relationships
Depending on what choice the player made the Sister would talk to the MC about how they feel about incest or their thoughts on having relationships with no strings attached. This would give the player a chance to change the route if they would prefer to go down a lover route, public Slut, or Free-use. This would also be the point that the MC asks his sister if she's alright and if she needs any help paying her bills and rent. She'll dismiss the query but thanks the MC for listening and answering before assuring them she's alright.

Allaway's Outline

Act 1: Interest
The MC following Xina's recommendation decides to target Allaway in their first step of converting the entire school. With Allaway somewhat oblivious to the MC's flirting despite the fact that she seems to be unconsciously making lewd remarks or movements. The MC perplexed talks to Xina about looking into Allaway's past while he continues trying to court her. Xina unsurprisingly is on board with finding out a fellow educator's secrets. Allaway then confronts the MC, concerned about his recent behavior asks him if he wants to talk with someone. This leads to an incident where Allaway trips and lands face first on his crotch. This would embarrass the hell out her as she catches the scent of the MC's cock and girlishly refers to it as candy before running off rather embarrassed.
Act 2: Investigation
As Xina digs further into Allaway past she discovers something that visually perturbs even her. When the MC asks Xina about what's she's managed to uncover, she reveals that Allaway's mother was a high class porn star. Appearing in several rather well known adult films. As she dug further she found out that Allaway actually was on set for some of the films, which explains some of her mannerisms. Xina then tells the MC that while this does help give them some insight it also makes things more difficult. She explains that Allaway would likely never had a proper introduction to romance. So the MC will have to come at it from the angle of emotional intimacy rather than a physical one.
 

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Possibly having her masturbate to the fantasy of starting a family with him.
I'm hoping this comes to fruition in the later arcs and isn't just a fantasy haha.

Regarding the storylines in general, they sound like great character introductions and will allow for opportunities to ramp up the sexual content in later arcs. It just so happens that you're working on my top 3 favorite characters right now which I'm really happy about. Keep up the great work!
 

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Well I've always liked the models in this game, but the developer is so disappointing. Looking forward to this.
 

Wolfregis

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Weekly Update #2: Progression, Art, and other things.

Afternoon everyone, as promised back again with another weekly update.

Progression:

This something I want to clarify in terms of in game progression. In the base game the MC has a list of skills that unless your using cheats can only improve by grinding and earning points. After some discussion with Fudulaboi, we have decided to remove this system. A part of this is due to the fact that forcing someone to grind just for them to lose said points is not very appealing as a system. So there are several routes we can go down to remedy this. The first would be to remove the stat system entirely, and have you MC be given the options regardless of what they do. The second would be to have a system that let's you level up your stats to let's say lvl 5-6 permanently without loss and have that open up various dialogue options. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter.

Art:
This is the part of the mod that will likely take the longest to complete, as we are trying to use the base assets that are already in the game albeit we will be making alterations to suit the story as needed. The biggest problem that presents itself is the matter of creating new CGs, which will take time. All I can ask is that you bear with us in this regard, we want each version of the mod to be finished, rather than rely on temp art or sprites.

Story:
I've currently finished writing the quests for the Mom's story line at present. I should be finishing up the Sister and Allaway's by the end of this week. After that I'll be moving onto outlining three other characters. These characters will include Lashley, Hitomi, and for now Nurse Hollick (cause damn me I love redheads). Now there is something I want to get everyone's input on in terms of a character or characters sidestory. In the case of the Heather's knockoffs (The Threeghans), which would all of you prefer to have them have a combined narrative arc, or give each character with the Threeghans their own story.
 

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Wolfregis Thanks again for the progress update. I do have some thoughts, but I can only hope you get more input as well (maybe you guys should think about readvertising the mod and your plans on the main game's thread, if you're comfortable with that). Diversified opinions on these matters can help. That being said, here are my suggestions/comments:

The first would be to remove the stat system entirely, and have you MC be given the options regardless of what they do. The second would be to have a system that let's you level up your stats to let's say lvl 5-6 permanently without loss and have that open up various dialogue options.
I'm kinda in favor of the second option, but just to clarify - would this mean at each level you can get a different dialogue? If so, I see that as a way of showing some meaningful progression with the characters through the arcs.

All I can ask is that you bear with us in this regard, we want each version of the mod to be finished, rather than rely on temp art or sprites.
Not a problem. One thing that annoyed me a lot is the unfinished art in the original game...it really killed the mood with some scenes and made the game less enjoyable.

I've currently finished writing the quests for the Mom's story line at present. I should be finishing up the Sister and Allaway's by the end of this week.
Wonderful! Keep it up, dude.

In the case of the Heather's knockoffs (The Threeghans), which would all of you prefer to have them have a combined narrative arc, or give each character with the Threeghans their own story.
I might be a little biased here. I didn't really care for these characters because I enjoyed the mother, sister, and teacher the most and focused on them, haha. Regardless, if it's not too difficult to do, I suggest maybe going with giving each their own story and if you want to have a combined scene after you accomplish their individual stories that may be cool. You'd probably be appealing to everyone that wants to see content for those characters that way.
 

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Weekly Update #3: Story, Relationships, and Paths

Morning everyone, here with another weekly update.

Story:
Just to let everyone know I've finished the first two quests for both the Mother and Sister. I'm currently editing and proof reading what I've written Allaway's quests one more time before I send it off to Fudulaboi for review. I've also got the rough outlines for Lashley, Hitomi, and Hollick started and will be refining them over the weekend barring any major incidents. This brings me to my next point in how progression in the story proper will work. Each Act will inevitable progress the Town's conversion but the advancement of this process is aided by completing quests and side stories. The quests for the story proper will be given by members of the Cult as a means to convert the area, which can range from a fetch quest to using the MC's skills to convince others to join the cult.

Relationships:
One of the things that I want to clarify is that while player choice does and will matter the MC won't be as charismatic as Casanova or as silver tongued as Loki. This means that the MC will have to build influence with people in order to affect them. Narrative wise it makes more sense that MC actually has to build a relationship with certain characters before he can set them on a certain path. For example while the MC's Mother and Sister clearly have history with the MC and will be easier to influence where as people like Allaway, Lashley, or Luna do not. So choosing what path they go down be it Wife/Lover, Slut, or Freeuse, won't take effect typically until the end of Act 2 with a few exceptions being reserved for the beginning or middle of Act 3. This also leads into my next point the matter of these three outcomes, while it would be a dream come true to have numerous variations based on which choices are made that's not really possible for us. So it'll come down to certain pivotal choices and tallying up the score. For example say you choose the Slut path for 3 choices and the Wife/Lover path for 1, the end result will be the Slut ending for that character's side story.
Now as far as influencing characters down certain paths some characters will be more predisposed to a certain path than others. For example Effie is more open to the idea of Freeuse rather than committing to anyone in particular. While Principal Lashley is predisposed to the Wife/Lover routes, this also brings me to my next point the paths themselves.

Paths:
This is something I also wanted to touch on because there might be some questions to differences between the aforementioned paths. This comes from a bit of my own outlook on such matters when it comes down to the final outcome for the characters. To clarify the end goal of the MC and the Cult is to convert the Town and by extension the world to a more lust driven form of existence. That being said the Wife/Lover route will have the character devote themselves to the MC by wearing an item signifying the bond between the two. In short meaning they would go as far as proposing marriage and bearing the MC's children, seeing other partners for lack of a better term as walking meat dildos that they use to satisfy their urges. The Slut route will still have the character devoted in a more limited capacity offering to have his kids, but they will pursue other relationships outside of the MC. Freeuse will come down to the MC and the other individual seeing each other as a means to get off.

Anyway that about does it for this update, if you have any questions, comments, concerns, or burning desires feel free to comment on the post or DM, me. As always take care, be safe, and stay healthy everyone.
 
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Weekly Update #3: Story, Relationships, and Paths

Morning everyone, here with another weekly update.

Story:
Just to let everyone know I've finished the first two quests for both the Mother and Sister. I'm currently editing and proof reading what I've written Allaway's quests one more time before I send it off to Fudulaboi for review. I've also got the rough outlines for Lashley, Hitomi, and Hollick started and will be refining them over the weekend barring any major incidents. This brings me to my next point in how progression in the story proper will work. Each Act will inevitable progress the Town's conversion but the advancement of this process is aided by completing quests and side stories. The quests for the story proper will be given by members of the Cult as a means to convert the area, which can range from a fetch quest to using the MC's skills to convince others to join the cult.

Relationships:
One of the things that I want to clarify is that while player choice does and will matter the MC won't be as charismatic as Casanova or as silver tongued as Loki. This means that the MC will have to build influence with people in order to affect them. Narrative wise it makes more sense that MC actually has to build a relationship with certain characters before he can set them on a certain path. For example while the MC's Mother and Sister clearly have history with the MC and will be easier to influence where as people like Allaway, Lashley, or Luna do not. So choosing what path they go down be it Wife/Lover, Slut, or Freeuse, won't take effect typically until the end of Act 2 with a few exceptions being reserved for the beginning or middle of Act 3. This also leads into my next point the matter of these three outcomes, while it would be a dream come true to have numerous variations based on which choices are made that's not really possible for us. So it'll come down to certain pivotal choices and tallying up the score. For example say you choose the Slut path for 3 choices and the Wife/Lover path for 1, the end result will be the Slut ending for that character's side story.
Now as far as influencing characters down certain paths some characters will be more predisposed to a certain path than others. For example Effie is more open to the idea of Freeuse rather than committing to anyone in particular. While Principal Lashley is predisposed to the Wife/Lover routes, this also brings me to my next point the paths themselves.

Paths:
This is something I also wanted to touch on because there might be some questions to differences between the aforementioned paths. This comes from a bit of my own outlook on such matters when it comes down to the final outcome for the characters. To clarify the end goal of the MC and the Cult is to convert the Town and by extension the world to a more lust driven form of existence. That being said the Wife/Lover route will have the character devote themselves to the MC by wearing an item signifying the bond between the two. In short meaning they would go as far as proposing marriage and bearing the MC's children, seeing other partners for lack of a better term as walking meat dildos that they use to satisfy their urges. The Slut route will still have the character devoted in a more limited capacity offering to have his kids, but they will pursue other relationships outside of the MC. Freeuse will come down to the MC and the other individual seeing each other as a means to get off.

Anyway that about does it for this update, if you have any questions, comments, concerns, or burning desires feel free to comment on the post or DM, me. As always take care, be safe, and stay healthy everyone.
I just found out about this update not too long ago and was wondering if it was available to download at the moment.
 

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That being said the Wife/Lover route will have the character devote themselves to the MC by wearing an item signifying the bond between the two. In short meaning they would go as far as proposing marriage and bearing the MC's children, seeing other partners for lack of a better term as walking meat dildos that they use to satisfy their urges.
If they devote themselves to the MC, why the fuck will they use other partners to satisfy their urges? They are devoted to the MC, meaning they should rely only in the MC, fuck the MC, love the MC, etc. Having a lover/wife that says she is devoted to the MC but then uses other guys/girls to satisfy herself, instead of being centered in the MC, isn't what I would call being devoted to him.

Maybe I understood it wrong, but I thought that the wife/lover route, means that they would focus on the MC and only him, aka no NTR/cheating/sharing because that happens in the other two routes, but the way you explained the lover/wife route make me have doubts.
 

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If they devote themselves to the MC, why the fuck will they use other partners to satisfy their urges? They are devoted to the MC, meaning they should rely only in the MC, fuck the MC, love the MC, etc. Having a lover/wife that says she is devoted to the MC but then uses other guys/girls to satisfy herself, instead of being centered in the MC, isn't what I would call being devoted to him.

Maybe I understood it wrong, but I thought that the wife/lover route, means that they would focus on the MC and only him, aka no NTR/cheating/sharing because that happens in the other two routes, but the way you explained the lover/wife route make me have doubts.
I probably should have clarified this a bit more but, as the changes to the Town occur it will fall into a more lust driven state, with people indulging themselves in debauched acts of pleasure without any real attachments. Wife/Lover route will basically mean that they won't actively seek someone else for companionship. The most that they'd ever be willing to do with anyone is handjobs, footjobs, etc. Anything that enters the actual realm of penetration including blowjobs, anal, or sex itself wouldn't be okay with them. As those would be forms of pleasure exclusive to the MC and only to the MC's use.



I just found out about this update not too long ago and was wondering if it was available to download at the moment.
The mod is not yet available, we're currently working revamping the story, code, and adding new CG's where the story demands and altering pre-existing ones to fit as thing change.
 

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I probably should have clarified this a bit more but, as the changes to the Town occur it will fall into a more lust driven state, with people indulging themselves in debauched acts of pleasure without any real attachments. Wife/Lover route will basically mean that they won't actively seek someone else for companionship. The most that they'd ever be willing to do with anyone is handjobs, footjobs, etc. Anything that enters the actual realm of penetration including blowjobs, anal, or sex itself wouldn't be okay with them. As those would be forms of pleasure exclusive to the MC and only to the MC's use.
Well that's dissapointing. Anyway better know it now than when I'm invested playing the game, because if I played the game and saw a "devoted wife" to the MC giving a handjob to someone I would have raged. You should probably put a disclaimer or something when you make the game, because the wifes/lovers doing sexual things with others that aren't the MC is NTR/cheating, no matter if they only do HJ/footjob it's still a betrayal of a "devoted" wife.

To be honest when you have a wife/lover route for the characters, even if they are driven by lust they are "bounded" to the MC, so they should point the lust to him, they having anything sexual with others girls/guys is just dumb IMHO. Time to move on I guess.
 
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Mayonesa brings up a valid point. Now I know it’s your and Fudulaboi’s mod and you have the ultimate creative authority, but do you think you could compromise and direct the lover/wife route women to focus all lust and devotion to MC? His logic makes sense as handjobs and footjobs are still pretty sexual things and by having all sex acts directed to MC would still be consistent with an overly lust-driven society as you are trying to make. If you can’t do that, then the disclaimer might be nice. Regardless, I’ll still play it haha.
 
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Well that's dissapointing. Anyway better know it now than when I'm invested playing the game, because if I played the game and saw a "devoted wife" to the MC giving a handjob to someone I would have raged. You should probably put a disclaimer or something when you make the game, because the wifes/lovers doing sexual things with others that aren't the MC is NTR/cheating, no matter if they only do HJ/footjob it's still a betrayal of a "devoted" wife.

To be honest when you have a wife/lover route for the characters, even if they are driven by lust they are "bounded" to the MC, so they should point the lust to him, they having anything sexual with others girls/guys is just dumb IMHO. Time to move on I guess.
Yeah I can understand that viewpoint, and again I probably should have made things clearer in the post regarding the update. I still hope you'll give the mod a chance when we release it.

Wolfregis
Mayonesa brings up a valid point. Now I know it’s your and Fudulaboi’s mod and you have the ultimate creative authority, but do you think you could compromise and direct the lover/wife route women to focus all lust and devotion to MC? His logic makes sense as handjobs and footjobs are still pretty sexual things and by having all sex acts directed to MC would still be consistent with an overly lust-driven society as you are trying to make. If you can’t do that, then the disclaimer might be nice. Regardless, I’ll still play it haha.
I'll discuss it with Fudulaboi and see if we can work something out in that regard. Though a possible alternative solution I have in mind for this is limiting their interactions to other characters with the MC is pursuing. For example the MC walks in on his mother and sister munching each other's rugs as a way to abate their lust.
 
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Though a possible alternative solution I have in mind for this is limiting their interactions to other characters with the MC is pursuing. For example the MC walks in on his mother and sister munching each other's rugs as a way to abate their lust.
Nice lol, I would definitely be for that solution.
 

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Quick Update: I've discussed some of the issues in the Wife/Lover routes with Fudulaboi. We will still have characters that have gone down the Wife/Lover route interact with other people but it will be limited to characters that the MC is actively pursuing. For example the MC's mom may mention that she ran in Ms. Allaway at the grocery store and they used a zucchini or eggplant to get each other off.
 

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Yeah I can understand that viewpoint, and again I probably should have made things clearer in the post regarding the update. I still hope you'll give the mod a chance when we release it.
Quick Update: I've discussed some of the issues in the Wife/Lover routes with Fudulaboi. We will still have characters that have gone down the Wife/Lover route interact with other people but it will be limited to characters that the MC is actively pursuing. For example the MC's mom may mention that she ran in Ms. Allaway at the grocery store and they used a zucchini or eggplant to get each other off.
If that is your answer then I don't think I will play the mod, I have nothing against that kind of content if that is what you were after, but I just don't like sharing/cheathing/NTR and just because they fuck other girls, it doesn't mean they are not cheating on the MC, since you know they are lovers/wives of the MC, not each other. I don't like forced lesbian content, unless I have a say in it, but what you are saying is that it will happen no matter what.

I could see that happening in the slut and freeuse route, but if you put unavoidable sex scenes with the LI with other characters, no matter if they are girls or boys, in the "love" route, it makes almost all the routes the same, since at the end of the day they still fuck other characters that are not the MC in every route. I hate when the females characters becomes bisexual just so they can fuck each other and is easier to make an "harem" believable, if they love the MC they should focus in the MC, if not what is the point in having a wife, if she is fucking other characters.

When reading about the mod, I first thought, that it will be a love route (all the girls in that route loves the MC and want to be with him only), the slut (they care about the MC but they are ok with fucking others, just they have a stronger connection to the MC than others) and the free for all route (every girl fucks with everyone). But well, I was wrong and reading about the routes they seem to just alter slightly, in one they are your "lovers" but will fuck each others, in other they will fuck other guys/girls but will want you to impregnate them and in the last they don't care about anything but sex.

Well, it's just my opinion and I'm surelly in the minority here, so you can just ignore me. I just don't like forced sharing and no matter what route I get with the girls, it will come to later sharing in the game (prob even the MC will say he is ok with it), just because it's girl on girl doesn't mean it's great and ok, but again just my opinion, you are making a game, if that's what you want then go ahead, I will just not play it and no one loses anything.
 
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If that is your answer then I don't think I will play the mod, I have nothing against that kind of content if that is what you were after, but I just don't like sharing/cheathing/NTR and just because they fuck other girls, it doesn't mean they are not cheating on the MC, since you know they are lovers/wives of the MC, not each other. I don't like forced lesbian content, unless I have a say in it, but what you are saying is that it will happen no matter what.

I could see that happening in the slut and freeuse route, but if you put unavoidable sex scenes with the LI with other characters, no matter if they are girls or boys, in the "love" route, it makes almost all the routes the same, since at the end of the day they still fuck other characters that are not the MC in every route. I hate when the females characters becomes bisexual just so they can fuck each other and is easier to make an "harem" believable, if they love the MC they should focus in the MC, if not what is the point in having a wife, if she is fucking other characters.

When reading about the mod, I first thought, that it will be a love route (all the girls in that route loves the MC and want to be with him only), the slut (they care about the MC but they are ok with fucking others, just they have a stronger connection to the MC than others) and the free for all route (every girl fucks with everyone). But well, I was wrong and reading about the routes they seem to just alter slightly, in one they are your "lovers" but will fuck each others, in other they will fuck other guys/girls but will want you to impregnate them and in the last they don't care about anything but sex.

Well, it's just my opinion and I'm surelly in the minority here, so you can just ignore me. I just don't like forced sharing and no matter what route I get with the girls, it will come to later sharing in the game (prob even the MC will say he is ok with it), just because it's girl on girl doesn't mean it's great and ok, but again just my opinion, you are making a game, if that's what you want then go ahead, I will just not play it and no one loses anything.
I personally do respect your opinion as it is conducive to what I’d want in real life from a wife (that we’d remain devoted to each other emotionally and sexually and not engage in things with others no matter the gender of the other person).
In this game though, if I’d be pursuing all the ladies in a wife/lover route, then I would not mind them enjoying themselves with each other because it’s like a harem aspect, as you stated. Porn games for me are ways to live out that haremesque fantasy that I would never want in real life, so at the end of the day the solution made by Wolfregis would work for me. Like I said though, I do respect your opinion of what you prefer in wife/lover routes.
 
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