VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Shalamar94]

#NOmoreDYLAN enough of dylan stupidfacker

Shut up PSYCHO ! If you don't like incest, GTFOH and look out for some non-incest vanilla games , there's plenty on this site and they are the majority; do not try to turn this INCEST game into just another one of those vanilla game with just regular non incest sex which are boring because they are the norm and that's why they are the majority. You Sam fan boys should understand that, and I'm not a Dylan fan either because I want to also see Sophia with her daughter Ellie and Ellie with her father and brother as this game should be.

 

[ffive]

imho this is what makes it unique !

Eh, "female protagonist gets fucked by everyone in town" is your standard plot for those Japanese RPGM games. They just don't take 8+ years to get past 1st base.

 

[a47356441]

You are right about the first part however this totally unbalances the game. According one old poll Dylan comes first, Ellie is not very far behind ; Amber and Sam are very appreciated too, followed by Patricia.

By highlighting Dylan further, he will disappoint a large part of the players (I already am a bit).

"He has a vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly." no, factually not, he changed the story, to satisfy the fans of Dylan. >>> "He has a fan's vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly"

If there was an additional character to bring to the ranch, it would have had to be someone among the well-known characters (not Zoe's daughter ) other than Dylan. Quite to advance a narrative arc with a secondary character.

Yes, brother, after looking at the voting rankings, the data can explain it all. People only see Dylan who is in first place, and ignore the votes other than Dylan. I dare say that NTR players definitely account for a large proportion in this game. Due to the voting mechanism, Dylan fans will definitely choose Dylan, but NTR fans are different. They like Aiden, Sam, fitness trainer DeShawn, the janitor, Logan, and many more.They will vote for the people they like (and these votes disperse the cohesion). Except for Liam, anyone could be chosen. Because I am an NTR party, I want to vote for DeShawn, Logan, Taylor, the janitor, the mailman, and all of them, but I only have one vote.Dylan's vote and NTR's vote are like many-to-one and many-to-many. In this case, Dylan is undoubtedly the first, because Dylan's fans have only one choice, while NTR players have many choices. Adding up the other two rows of data can exceed Dylan's total votes. This illusion has deceived many people, including the author. The stupid author can't see this at all. I don't want to say anything more.

 

[Shalamar94]

If AWAM were just a game about incest, I probably wouldn't have encountered it, but L$P didn't. He created so many interesting character plots, like Sofia and her neighbor, her husband's boss, and her best friend's boyfriend. Why? Why is the game called "A Wife and Mother" instead of "Sofia and Dylan" or "Dylan and His Family"? We don't know what L$P is truly trying to achieve, or what he's been up to for the past eight years. Our goal is becoming increasingly murky, so we can only wait and see.

No, if this game was meant to be just another non incest vanilla game , it just would've been called ''A cheating wife" or if it was about Sam, (as many of you vanilla lovers wish) it would've been called ''My son's best friend and Me ", or "A cheating mother and wife" , something that suggested that this was just another plain vanilla game the kind that you virgin incels love so much or if you love NTR or you love BigBlackCock , you are still in the wrong place, because although those kinks are included, this game still is not about those vanilla kinks at all.

 

[a47356441]

Yes, brother, after looking at the voting rankings, the data can explain it all. People only see Dylan who is in first place, and ignore the votes other than Dylan. I dare say that NTR players definitely account for a large proportion in this game. Due to the voting mechanism, Dylan fans will definitely choose Dylan, but NTR fans are different. They like Aiden, Sam, fitness trainer DeShawn, the janitor, Logan, and many more.They will vote for the people they like (and these votes disperse the cohesion). Except for Liam, anyone could be chosen. Because I am an NTR party, I want to vote for DeShawn, Logan, Taylor, the janitor, the mailman, and all of them, but I only have one vote.Dylan's vote and NTR's vote are like many-to-one and many-to-many. In this case, Dylan is undoubtedly the first, because Dylan's fans have only one choice, while NTR players have many choices. Adding up the other two rows of data can exceed Dylan's total votes. This illusion has deceived many people, including the author. The stupid author can't see this at all. I don't want to say anything more.

My point is, I wouldn't turn down Dylan, but I would turn down Only Dylan, but bad developers mess everything up.

 

[Steven_80085]

For the 2nd Side Job

thanks bro

 

[Apollodore]

No, if this game was meant to be just another non incest vanilla game , it just would've been called ''A cheating wife" or if it was about Sam, (as many of you vanilla lovers wish) it would've been called ''My son's best friend and Me ", or "A cheating mother and wife" , something that suggested that this was just another plain vanilla game the kind that you virgin incels love so much or if you love NTR or you love BigBlackCock , you are still in the wrong place, because although those kinks are included, this game still is not about those vanilla kinks at all.

I didn't understand a47356441's message as you understood it
He just means that this game had additional aspects to the 'i' that it's precisely what had attracted him.

Here he doesn't want a vanilla game (just the wife), nor a game centered on the i (just the mother)

That's all
(btw me too)

It's been four or five recent posts that I've explained this problematic aspect of the game, and other issues as well. There is a risk that this game will go too far towards the 'i' by abandoning other types of interactions and relationships. It would be a shame because there are interesting stories outside of Dylan, Ellie, Patricia.

It's just to find the right compromise with these two aspects of the game.

As a47356441 said 'I don't want to say anything more.' I shared my POV, my solutions, my observations, to give them back would be just to repeat it.

Take care

 

[doccop63]

Yes, brother, after looking at the voting rankings, the data can explain it all. People only see Dylan who is in first place, and ignore the votes other than Dylan. I dare say that NTR players definitely account for a large proportion in this game. Due to the voting mechanism, Dylan fans will definitely choose Dylan, but NTR fans are different. They like Aiden, Sam, fitness trainer DeShawn, the janitor, Logan, and many more.They will vote for the people they like (and these votes disperse the cohesion). Except for Liam, anyone could be chosen. Because I am an NTR party, I want to vote for DeShawn, Logan, Taylor, the janitor, the mailman, and all of them, but I only have one vote.Dylan's vote and NTR's vote are like many-to-one and many-to-many. In this case, Dylan is undoubtedly the first, because Dylan's fans have only one choice, while NTR players have many choices. Adding up the other two rows of data can exceed Dylan's total votes. This illusion has deceived many people, including the author. The stupid author can't see this at all. I don't want to say anything more.

As Salgijash mentioned, the RL aspects of incest is different than this game or many other Western stories of the subject. This "slow corruption" of a "good" wife and mother is garbage. As a victim of molestation (and No, it Wasn't my mom), Anyone who would go after teens, male and/or females, are Already corrupted. That's just a fact and No One can argue that. Look at the rash of arrests involving teachers & students. Pretty sure that Most people here think that the teachers are corrupted and demented But I digress.
This game could be a good "What if" story if L&P stepped up the corruption theme, starting with a penetrative sex scene with Dylan first, the reasoning being lack of attention from Liam (which in RL, is the excuse for many married females to cheat). From there, once she's conquered her son, she moves on to Ellie, then Sam, Zac & finally Aiden & his goons. Any sex acts involving adults (college people included here) would be an aside, meaning they happen between her encounters with the above mentioned characters.
Imho, L&P wanted to be "unique" about this story but quickly it turned into standard fare only more godforsakenly Slower. If he wants more realism, he should follow RL & the headlines albeit the game couldn't be the "slow burn" that he wants. He can't have it both ways.

 

[a47356441]

As Salgijash mentioned, the RL aspects of incest is different than this game or many other Western stories of the subject. This "slow corruption" of a "good" wife and mother is garbage. As a victim of molestation (and No, it Wasn't my mom), Anyone who would go after teens, male and/or females, are Already corrupted. That's just a fact and No One can argue that. Look at the rash of arrests involving teachers & students. Pretty sure that Most people here think that the teachers are corrupted and demented But I digress.
This game could be a good "What if" story if L&P stepped up the corruption theme, starting with a penetrative sex scene with Dylan first, the reasoning being lack of attention from Liam (which in RL, is the excuse for many married females to cheat). From there, once she's conquered her son, she moves on to Ellie, then Sam, Zac & finally Aiden & his goons. Any sex acts involving adults (college people included here) would be an aside, meaning they happen between her encounters with the above mentioned characters.
Imho, L&P wanted to be "unique" about this story but quickly it turned into standard fare only more godforsakenly Slower. If he wants more realism, he should follow RL & the headlines albeit the game couldn't be the "slow burn" that he wants. He can't have it both ways.

In my opinion, games have nothing to do with real life. I won't associate them with real life, just like NTR players. They won't put themselves in the game role. We won't embarrass ourselves. We will only enjoy the pleasure brought by the process. That's all.

 

[doccop63]

In my opinion, games have nothing to do with real life. I won't associate them with real life, just like NTR players. They won't put themselves in the game role. We won't embarrass ourselves. We will only enjoy the pleasure brought by the process. That's all.

I humbly disagree. Many of these games are based on the RL taboo kink of the subject. They even go so far as to portray RL situations of lonely moms or those in emotional turmoil. The point which makes for a difference to RL is that they all introduce lecherous sons, otherwise there's a lot of realistic aspects to them.

 

[yourmomma]

As Salgijash mentioned, the RL aspects of incest is different than this game or many other Western stories of the subject. This "slow corruption" of a "good" wife and mother is garbage. As a victim of molestation (and No, it Wasn't my mom), Anyone who would go after teens, male and/or females, are Already corrupted. That's just a fact and No One can argue that. Look at the rash of arrests involving teachers & students. Pretty sure that Most people here think that the teachers are corrupted and demented But I digress.
This game could be a good "What if" story if L&P stepped up the corruption theme, starting with a penetrative sex scene with Dylan first, the reasoning being lack of attention from Liam (which in RL, is the excuse for many married females to cheat). From there, once she's conquered her son, she moves on to Ellie, then Sam, Zac & finally Aiden & his goons. Any sex acts involving adults (college people included here) would be an aside, meaning they happen between her encounters with the above mentioned characters.
Imho, L&P wanted to be "unique" about this story but quickly it turned into standard fare only more godforsakenly Slower. If he wants more realism, he should follow RL & the headlines albeit the game couldn't be the "slow burn" that he wants. He can't have it both ways.

Honestly being corrupted by Morello and his criminal enterprise would make the most sense then Adien and his little gang. The story would be alot more plausible and dynamic.

But I guess if we were going by modern standards she would take on a much more predatory role in sleeping with any of the student body. An adult woman being manipulated by " young adults " is just silly. She'd have to be an absolutely clueless human being and highly submissive.

This game lacks any realism whatsoever and there is alot of abandonment of so, by the fan base to some what make it work.

 

[a47356441]

I humbly disagree. Many of these games are based on the RL taboo kink of the subject. They even go so far as to portray RL situations of lonely moms or those in emotional turmoil. The point which makes for a difference to RL is that they all introduce lecherous sons, otherwise there's a lot of realistic aspects to them.

But I think you've got the wrong point. (We don't put ourselves in the shoes of game characters) has nothing to do with (whether the subject matter is based on reality).

 

[doccop63]

Honestly being corrupted by Morello and his criminal enterprise would make the most sense then Adien and his little gang. The story would be alot more plausible and dynamic.

But I guess if we were going by modern standards she would take on a much more predatory role in sleeping with any of the student body. An adult woman being manipulated by " young adults " is just silly. She'd have to be an absolutely clueless human being and highly submissive.

This game lakes any realism whatsoever and there is alot of abandoned of so, by the fan base to some what make it work.

Facts

 

[hzjujk]

It doesn't really matter whether Dylan is her biological son or not. Dylan's fans turn a story of corruption involving a woman whose moral values are constantly shifting as she is confronted with ever new sexual challenges and temptations into a vanilla love and sex story, like so many others.

Incest as a vanilla story in which the mother's own son gives her what she hasn't gotten from her own husband in a long time. That's what the growing influence of V+ supporters is turning the story into. There are many VNs on f95zone that follow exactly this path. This has become such a well-trodden path that it's boring. Especially since many developers, due to a lack of ideas or pressure from supporters, only know one way: handjob - blowjob - anal - vaginal. Boring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Even here on f95, you read the constant whining of people complaining that L&P should focus on the main story and cut out this or that path. Yet it is precisely these seemingly minor events that make Sophia's corruption credible and the moral decay so deep that incest becomes conceivable.

But what am I talking about, all of that is brushed aside with the statement: We've been here for 8 years and haven't had sex yet - the developer is just milking it!
People, if you haven't had sex in 8 years - it's your own fault!

 

[armion82]

There is nothing "realistic" in the Sophia-Dylan relationship in this game. When incest happens in real life it happens from the "position of power" i.e. it's always the parent (father most of the time) who initiates it. It most certainly does not involve "dry humping" over clothing. Similar thing is when sibling incest is happening - most of the time it's an older sibling who initiates it. Additionally, all these games have "regular porn-like sequence" i.e. handjob-blowjob-vaginal sex-anal. In real life, incestuous intercourse does not follow that gradual progression.
Same is with cheating - people in real life who have an extramarital affair, do not go at it gradually (holding hands and kissing on the cheek in the park), they go at it fully.
And that is the problem with L&P and the slow development of the game, meaning slow (as fuck) burn, and gradual corruption of Sophia as MC.

No idea how you are expecting realism from a porn game,no matter which genre.
Didn't we play games to escape reality,to begin with?

 

[ffive]

was she also wanted another child on the beginning of the game as wishful wishing on her character's profile revealed on her lines? Am I correct for it or wrong? And who among these suitors will be the one?

NGL, i hope it's the black janitor dude if just because i want to see Dylan fans try to cope with that.

 

[Brutt Axeman]

NGL, i hope it's the black janitor dude if just because i want to see Dylan fans try to cope with that.

Enjoy my fan art teaser then... https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-fan-art.15218/post-18407768

 

[IHATESlowburnBluBallgames]

NGL, i hope it's the black janitor dude if just because i want to see Dylan fans try to cope with that.

This is Cuck Liam in the delivery room while Sophia gives birth

 

[Mexi]

Hopefully the next update doesn't take as long as the last one. Still waiting for a Dylon and Ellie interaction update or another first side job update.

 

[Kakato]

Hopefully the next update doesn't take as long as the last one. Still waiting for a Dylon and Ellie interaction update or another first side job update.

That Dylon ?

Won't happen, mate.