VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[bauman]

what development plan?

30 playable days from start to finish. Currently at 11/30 after 33 months in development.

 

[sheatfish]

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Better now? I just tested it out in my own flip-flops, so this is about how it would look. If you find more minor little details to improve and stretch the time between updates even more, just let me know (this statement may contain traces of sarcasm).

But actually it's strange that the people who're mocking about something minor like that are the same who're crying at the same time how slow the progress is! And why this can't be taking seriously is that also the same people who're mocking about the actually obvious presence of sick details in my game as if it's just my fantasy and not true, are the same people who're mocking that other games have so much better visuals, which I won't dispute since everyone has his own opinion, but where sometimes is not even paid attention to much more obvious things like hair moving caused by gravity, hair vanishes in the face or clothes, contact to the floor or realistic eye posing! Which of course is not a deal-breaker and not everyone is up to spend time on minor things, after all we're talking here just about porn games. But then making fun of such crazy negligible things in my game where I already pay attention to so many ridiculous things???
But hey, trolling is fun and became our hobby. So, let's find minor things to mock about here cause we're bored and have nothing else to do in our life and the dev has a much too high opinion of himself.



Are you serious? Yes, I don't use expression presets and every expression and face muscle movement is adjusted manually in my game which justifiably takes more time! Doesn't matter if you like the expression or not! Maybe you didn't know but facial expressions reflect peoples emotional state which situation-related can turn out very differently. In this case she's worried about the situation and feels uncomfortable and yes such an expression can look different to if she would feel comfortable and confident! But obviously some people here have studied art design and psychology and know everything much better!
This comment is a great example of what happens when anger meets boredom!
I've seen that you already posted a bunch of clueless, vacuous comments without any validity here. So, if this is not trolling in your case and you ARE serious, forget what I wrote because then your problem seems to be somewhere entirely else only a doctor can tell you where.

doctor13 said:
Dylan jerking off in front of Sophia should have been the catalyst. From that point, Sophia would have tolerated and then come to enjoy him doing it front of her either when she is showering or getting changed. Instead, we've gone backwards from jerking off in front of Sophia to feeling the material of her bra : /

Yeah, you're right. Of course it's much more realistic that a faithful, virtuous, well-educated wife and mother who has been faithful to her husband for almost 20 years and didn't have any cheating thoughts her whole life, all of a sudden gets totally crazy about seeing her son's big hard cock for the first time, in a situation where she just wanted to help him out with his "problem" which was actually against all of her beliefs, if you've chosen that for her. So, of course it's much more unrealistic that she feels remorse after that totally weird unusual experience and instead of bother, step back and retain to a normal mother son relationship what makes Dylan's story more challenging, she had to fall immediately in love with her son's big cock and give him a handjob next time and telling him that she could only think of his big hard cock all the time. Yes, that would be probably the right character development for Sophia's nature. Sorry, I always forget what psychological experts, bestselling authors, doctors and professors are romping about here!


The thing is, that many people are completely clueless about how a work on such a game looks like. Why don't he get someone to render? Why don't he get some help for the scenes? Because I don't render the scenes automatically. Just letting it run while sleeping isn't! Before rendering I'm adjusting every single scene! Alone the lighting setting is different with every point of view especially with the style I'm using with my next update! Plus, do you know many amateur render people who have Titan RTX GPUs with 24 GB VRAM, piece price around 3K $? So that my huge scenes can fit? And I can find the godfather of art and it could be useless as long as we're not working in the same room together!
You understand that my scenes are huge with a lot of text and till I share all the files and describe someone on the web what should happen there, what I frequently don't even know myself before not start working with the scene, I could just create it myself! And that all areas where action takes place, only I know about their nature, is the smallest matter. So, I would need to give some stranger the total responsibility of some scenes, and he/she can do whatever they want to with it, doesn't matter if the area and the style looks totally different all of a sudden and won't fit to my dialogues! I also didn't see many people using such huges scene set-ups, btw!
So, I think the matter here is that some people, apart from that they are completely clueless about the work on such an ambitious project, are less worried about a realistic solution to speed up development but that I earn too much money in their opinion, for actually working every day on the game for at least 8 hours per day and spending free time just on fitness, buying groceries, eating and sleeping, what they of course don't understand and can only laugh about! They want that I get less money, so I have to give away some of it doesn't matter if it would speed things up or not.
If in my case it's greed, buddy, then in your case it's envy. And the funny thing is that there are devs who get 10 times more than I and also don't work significantly faster, especially compared to the details and fullness of every scene which just takes more time to create! But nobody is complaining there. The reason is clear why. Only if you get sexual stuff in every update, doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, you are working hard!

I’m very flattered that you heard me and even made changes, thank you very much, I’m a fan of your game, you are doing very well

 

[nexer]

I’m very flattered that you heard me and even made changes, thank you very much, I’m a fan of your game, you are doing very well

Don't overdo it. Everyone here is fan of his game.

 

[lockerxx]

is nice to see L&P in the forum again.

 

[BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM]

Are you serious? Yes, I don't use expression presets and every expression and face muscle movement is adjusted manually in my game which justifiably takes more time! Doesn't matter if you like the expression or not! Maybe you didn't know but facial expressions reflect peoples emotional state which situation-related can turn out very differently. In this case she's worried about the situation and feels uncomfortable and yes such an expression can look different to if she would feel comfortable and confident! But obviously some people here have studied art design and psychology and know everything much better!
This comment is a great example of what happens when anger meets boredom!
I've seen that you already posted a bunch of clueless, vacuous comments without any validity here. So, if this is not trolling in your case and you ARE serious, forget what I wrote because then your problem seems to be somewhere entirely else only a doctor can tell you where.

Im not saying that I like or don't like the expression. I'm saying she looks terrible here. Has a huge chin/jaw, almost cartoonish.

"But obviously some people here have studied art design and psychology and know everything much better!"
What does that have to do with Sophia's face looking more boney as the time passes? How's that even an argument to refute a "Sophia is looking worse" opinion?

There's no anger or boredom, I've said before what I think about your game:
Great renders (way better than a few years ago), a lot of them aren't needed. Banal story which gets boring at times.
Plenty of branches that are going to lead nowhere.
With this rate of updates the probability of you finishing it in the next decade is probably in the 5% region.
The update times/content ratio is bad and it looks like it's getting worse.
You don't fulfill your own patreon promises despite getting the $ goals.

"I've seen that you already posted a bunch of clueless, vacuous comments without any validity here. So, if this is not trolling in your case and you ARE serious, forget what I wrote because then your problem seems to be somewhere entirely else only a doctor can tell you where."

Not clueless, not vacuous. They're opinions and I'm entitled to one. You can read it, not read it, ignore it, or just do what you do to everyone that does not kiss your feet and call them a troll because in your head absolutely nothing can be wrong with your game which for you is a piece of contemporary art and not a banal story with 3d images to which people fap to, which, for the record, is better than most games out there.

 

[ashitanojoe]

- for the slightly blurry effect in 4k : i have the same effect on my 1440p screen, 1440p pictures appear sharper and that's pretty normal I suppose. But but the fact that it has the same effect on your screen (I assume you got a 4k screen), surprises me.
- My screen doesn't support HDR, i just adjusted the contrast a little bit.
- I disagree with you with the "no definition improvement", here is another example: I took one of the last renders of the game without noise particules

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You can't say that just the noise was removed (original picture in attachment)

- For the rest, i agree that 4k details required a large screen to be seen, that's why i doubted the usefullness of 4k compared to 1440p which seems to be a good compromise in my opinion

Well, in this image the improvement is highly evident than the other one, in the definition aspect. But the image seems to lose some three dimensionality, looks too plastic. To be fair, I think that you used a bad shot for the other one, even in the 720p frame her face looks unfocused, a bit blurry.

Because IT IS an AI upscale from a noisy, low quality 720p render, and yeah, the skin or walls textures are still horrible, but overall the result is quite impressive.



Are you talking about RGBW screens? It's a well known 'scam', so you fooked up buying one of these TV's.



Eeee, huge BS. 4k is 4k. As long as the PPI is no higher than the human eye can see at a certain distance, you are good (not wasting anything). 60" @ 4k means pitiful 73 ppi.

No, my TV isn't RGBW. When you watch something in HDR looks very impressive, brutal, something that you can't see in my 37" 1080p TV. But if you watch something in 2K (1440p) you can't notice the differences compared to something in 4k. Why? Because of the size of the TV. You aren't watchching a 4K image in full size. The size of the TV is lower than the size of the 4K image. Unless, you see both 2k and 4k images at 200%. Then, the differences are evident.

4K is about resolution, nothing more, it means 3840 × 2160, that's it.


For example, look at the following images in 4k and 2k, if you watch both in my 47" 4k TV, you don't notice the differences.

4k:
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1440p:

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I'm using my 1080p TV right now. If I select seeing the 4k image in its real size, this is what I see: (A big part of the image goes out of the screen)

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Then you can notice the differences between a 4k and a 1440p image. What I'm saying is that if you want to perceive this same differences at 100%, you need a 4k TV above 60".

Now, F4iunyl3x if I compare this 4k image to your 4k image, both at their real size:

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You can notice the huge differences in definition, your 4k image is even below than the 1440p image that I shared here. That's why I said none of your images correspond to those resolutions.

*For real size I mean what I see in my 1080p screen when the image is at 100%.

Edit: I didn't notice that the forum didn't allow me to upload the sample image in 4K, the original resolution is 5000x2160, and was converted automatically to a lower resolution. It seems that you can't surpass 3840 here.

I changed 2k for 1440p, some user here adviced me of my mistake.

 

[gnole13]

Well, in this image the improvement is highly evident than the other one, in the definition aspect. But the image seems to lose some three dimensionality, looks too plastic. To be fair, I think that you used a bad shot for the other one, even in the 720p frame her face looks unfocused, a bit blurry.



No, my TV isn't RGBW. When you watch something in HDR looks very impressive, brutal, something that you can't see in my 37" 1080p TV. But if you watch something in 2K (1440p) you can't notice the differences compared to something in 4k. Why? Because of the size of the TV. You aren't watchching a 4K image in full size. The size of the TV is lower than the size of the 4K image. Unless, you see both 2k and 4k images at 200%. Then, the differences are evident.

4K is about resolution, nothing more, it means 3840 × 2160, that's it.
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For example, look at the following images in 4k and 2k, if you watch both in my 47" 4k TV, you don't notice the differences.

4k:
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2k:

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I'm using my 1080p TV right now. If I select seeing the 4k image in its real size, this is what I see: (A big part of the image goes out of the screen)

4K:

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2K:

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Then you can notice the differences between a 4k and a 2k image. What I'm saying is that if you want to perceive this same differences at 100%, you need a 4k TV above 60".

Now, F4iunyl3x if I compare this 4k image to your 4k image, both at their real size:

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You can notice the huge differences in definition, your 4k image is even below than the 2k image that I shared here. That's why I said none of your images correspond to those resolutions.

*For real size I mean what I see in my 1080p screen when the image is at 100%.

Damn. I am completely refusing to get older and older. My eyes couldn't find any differences, and I am planning to blame my monitors, not my old eyes

 

[Noneless]

the post

I hope you dont lose your motivation and hate us just because a few harsh comments, I dont talk for all but myself, and I really appretiate the time you take to make things good, I rather like a good game that take long than a rushed game that look awful and is buggy.

So don give up!

 

[Bahraini]

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Better now? I just tested it out in my own flip-flops, so this is about how it would look. If you find more minor little details to improve and stretch the time between updates even more, just let me know (this statement may contain traces of sarcasm).

But actually it's strange that the people who're mocking about something minor like that are the same who're crying at the same time how slow the progress is! And why this can't be taking seriously is that also the same people who're mocking about the actually obvious presence of sick details in my game as if it's just my fantasy and not true, are the same people who're mocking that other games have so much better visuals, which I won't dispute since everyone has his own opinion, but where sometimes is not even paid attention to much more obvious things like hair moving caused by gravity, hair vanishes in the face or clothes, contact to the floor or realistic eye posing! Which of course is not a deal-breaker and not everyone is up to spend time on minor things, after all we're talking here just about porn games. But then making fun of such crazy negligible things in my game where I already pay attention to so many ridiculous things???
But hey, trolling is fun and became our hobby. So, let's find minor things to mock about here cause we're bored and have nothing else to do in our life and the dev has a much too high opinion of himself.



Are you serious? Yes, I don't use expression presets and every expression and face muscle movement is adjusted manually in my game which justifiably takes more time! Doesn't matter if you like the expression or not! Maybe you didn't know but facial expressions reflect peoples emotional state which situation-related can turn out very differently. In this case she's worried about the situation and feels uncomfortable and yes such an expression can look different to if she would feel comfortable and confident! But obviously some people here have studied art design and psychology and know everything much better!
This comment is a great example of what happens when anger meets boredom!
I've seen that you already posted a bunch of clueless, vacuous comments without any validity here. So, if this is not trolling in your case and you ARE serious, forget what I wrote because then your problem seems to be somewhere entirely else only a doctor can tell you where.

doctor13 said:
Dylan jerking off in front of Sophia should have been the catalyst. From that point, Sophia would have tolerated and then come to enjoy him doing it front of her either when she is showering or getting changed. Instead, we've gone backwards from jerking off in front of Sophia to feeling the material of her bra : /

Yeah, you're right. Of course it's much more realistic that a faithful, virtuous, well-educated wife and mother who has been faithful to her husband for almost 20 years and didn't have any cheating thoughts her whole life, all of a sudden gets totally crazy about seeing her son's big hard cock for the first time, in a situation where she just wanted to help him out with his "problem" which was actually against all of her beliefs, if you've chosen that for her. So, of course it's much more unrealistic that she feels remorse after that totally weird unusual experience and instead of bother, step back and retain to a normal mother son relationship what makes Dylan's story more challenging, she had to fall immediately in love with her son's big cock and give him a handjob next time and telling him that she could only think of his big hard cock all the time. Yes, that would be probably the right character development for Sophia's nature. Sorry, I always forget what psychological experts, bestselling authors, doctors and professors are romping about here!


The thing is, that many people are completely clueless about how a work on such a game looks like. Why don't he get someone to render? Why don't he get some help for the scenes? Because I don't render the scenes automatically. Just letting it run while sleeping isn't! Before rendering I'm adjusting every single scene! Alone the lighting setting is different with every point of view especially with the style I'm using with my next update! Plus, do you know many amateur render people who have Titan RTX GPUs with 24 GB VRAM, piece price around 3K $? So that my huge scenes can fit? And I can find the godfather of art and it could be useless as long as we're not working in the same room together!
You understand that my scenes are huge with a lot of text and till I share all the files and describe someone on the web what should happen there, what I frequently don't even know myself before not start working with the scene, I could just create it myself! And that all areas where action takes place, only I know about their nature, is the smallest matter. So, I would need to give some stranger the total responsibility of some scenes, and he/she can do whatever they want to with it, doesn't matter if the area and the style looks totally different all of a sudden and won't fit to my dialogues! I also didn't see many people using such huges scene set-ups, btw!
So, I think the matter here is that some people, apart from that they are completely clueless about the work on such an ambitious project, are less worried about a realistic solution to speed up development but that I earn too much money in their opinion, for actually working every day on the game for at least 8 hours per day and spending free time just on fitness, buying groceries, eating and sleeping, what they of course don't understand and can only laugh about! They want that I get less money, so I have to give away some of it doesn't matter if it would speed things up or not.
If in my case it's greed, buddy, then in your case it's envy. And the funny thing is that there are devs who get 10 times more than I and also don't work significantly faster, especially compared to the details and fullness of every scene which just takes more time to create! But nobody is complaining there. The reason is clear why. Only if you get sexual stuff in every update, doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, you are working hard!

Hi bro, stop replying to a bunch of 15 and 16 year olds, you got work to do, I just dont like the fact that we have to wait more than 8 months to see some new straight content, as far as I now the next update is pure lesbian, am I right?

There should be a new sexy Dylan/Sophia scene in every update.

 

[Shaqmet]

Guys, i didn't look this game for months. Is there a sex scene now?

 

[zeronoxxx]

Lust&Passion you can find out the story or plot of this novel ?

 

[Jeko.john]

Guys, i didn't look this game for months. Is there a sex scene now?

I think only if you follow the "good wife path".


Any news of 0.100v?

 

[maybes4]

anyone feels the quality of images on the first page is way better than it in game like me?

 

[maybes4]

Years ago i played a game on this forum but i forgot its name.
This game tells about a family with tag NTR,a mother drive his son to school and get abused by cops and then get it again in interrogation room.
Anyone can help me?

 

[Ryu Hawke]

Years ago i played a game on this forum but i forgot its name.
This game tells about a family with tag NTR,a mother drive his son to school and get abused by cops and then get it again in interrogation room.
Anyone can help me?

This one?

https://f95zone.to/threads/family-friends-and-strangers-v6-0-johnandrich.22416/

 

[sharpys]

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Have you considered merely replying to such compliants and criticisms somewhat validates them? I get you’re fustrated with all the comments going on behind your back, but it’s going to continue regardless. Responding just fed that fire.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Have you considered merely replying to such compliants and criticisms somewhat validates them? I get you’re fustrated with all the comments going on behind your back, but it’s going to continue regardless. Responding just fed that fire.

I was just hoping we'd have a little more information from the Alyssa teaser to talk about. We don't even know where they're going, which we do know for the Ellie/Julia and the Yoga events

 

[PietruccioTheHilander]

from when the image with the wrong shoe was posted to when L&P replied with the correct image, not much time has passed; so then it doesn't take long to render

 

[Bahraini]

If you were going for realistic then that scene was unrealistic to begin with, especially at that point in a game... she shows him tits so he can ejaculate, teenage boy...? But OK, nobody expects War and Peace here. Generally, I like the story and characters.



Explain then why you need more and more time for releases and why you are constantly including new characters and unnecessary plot lines even people are against it, at least most of people on this board?
I you really listen to your supporters, then I must say they are bunch of masochists.
And most of the people like the look of the game, so your focusing on some random comment when most of people are praising graphics of the game looks like playing the victim.

Stop arguing like a little baby and go find yourself another game to play, you are annoying as fuck.

 

[LaPein]

I hope L&P isnt the author of this walkthrough.