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no I will not call it a day, its only 5.40PM, way to early for bed
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Yep, her face is getting fuglier with every update
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The way he said it is that we will have less Ellie/Julia,not less Sophia/Ellie.
That doesn't make sense at all.How not seeing Ellie/Julia won't affect that route?But it will affect Sophia/Ellie?Not to mention Ellie/Logan.
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Where did he say that?
It makes perfect sense. Ellie's already on a path with Julia if they had that moment in the pool on Day 15, so if Sophia doesn't see what happens between them in this update it doesn't mean it didn't happen and therefore Ellie's path with Julia will still continue, but it just might not be seen from now on on the Alyssa path.
On the other side of that, Sophia seeing Ellie and Julia doing some intimate things will likely trigger more incest temptation. She just had a very intimate kiss with her daughter the previous night and so seeing her doing things with another girl so soon after that is likely to lead to deepening that temptation. But, if she doesn't see it, then it would give her time to think and probably decide not to do more which is what could lessen the opportunities for Sophia with Ellie.
As for Ellie and Logan, if Sophia stays out of it and Ellie's not on the Julia path, then there's no reason why that won't continue in the background if Sophia chooses to go with Alyssa.
All of this is likely why L&P said that, "Deciding for Alyssa won't affect Ellie's storyline", because Ellie has a storyline and a character arc that is separate from her interactions with Sophia and that's what will not be affected by the decision, but it will have an impact on the "opportunities" with Sophia, i.e. the intimate relationship between them.
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You realise that what you are saying is
If we don't see Ellie/Julia now that means we will see less Ellie/Julia in the future too?
Not less Sophia/Ellie.
Also Sophia doesn't need lesbian temptation for Ellie.
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Better now? I just tested it out in my own flip-flops, so this is about how it would look. If you find more minor little details to improve and stretch the time between updates even more, just let me know (this statement may contain traces of sarcasm).
But actually it's strange that the people who're mocking about something minor like that are the same who're crying at the same time how slow the progress is! And why this can't be taking seriously is that also the same people who're mocking about the actually obvious presence of sick details in my game as if it's just my fantasy and not true, are the same people who're mocking that other games have so much better visuals, which I won't dispute since everyone has his own opinion, but where sometimes is not even paid attention to much more obvious things like hair moving caused by gravity, hair vanishes in the face or clothes, contact to the floor or realistic eye posing! Which of course is not a deal-breaker and not everyone is up to spend time on minor things, after all we're talking here just about porn games. But then making fun of such crazy negligible things in my game where I already pay attention to so many ridiculous things???
But hey, trolling is fun and became our hobby. So, let's find minor things to mock about here cause we're bored and have nothing else to do in our life and the dev has a much too high opinion of himself.
Are you serious? Yes, I don't use expression presets and every expression and face muscle movement is adjusted manually in my game which justifiably takes more time! Doesn't matter if you like the expression or not! Maybe you didn't know but facial expressions reflect peoples emotional state which situation-related can turn out very differently. In this case she's worried about the situation and feels uncomfortable and yes such an expression can look different to if she would feel comfortable and confident! But obviously some people here have studied art design and psychology and know everything much better!
This comment is a great example of what happens when anger meets boredom!
I've seen that you already posted a bunch of clueless, vacuous comments without any validity here. So, if this is not trolling in your case and you ARE serious, forget what I wrote because then your problem seems to be somewhere entirely else only a doctor can tell you where.
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Dylan jerking off in front of Sophia should have been the catalyst. From that point, Sophia would have tolerated and then come to enjoy him doing it front of her either when she is showering or getting changed. Instead, we've gone backwards from jerking off in front of Sophia to feeling the material of her bra : /
Yeah, you're right. Of course it's much more realistic that a faithful, virtuous, well-educated wife and mother who has been faithful to her husband for almost 20 years and didn't have any cheating thoughts her whole life, all of a sudden gets totally crazy about seeing her son's big hard cock for the first time, in a situation where she just wanted to help him out with his "problem" which was actually against all of her beliefs, if you've chosen that for her. So, of course it's much more unrealistic that she feels remorse after that totally weird unusual experience and instead of bother, step back and retain to a normal mother son relationship what makes Dylan's story more challenging, she had to fall immediately in love with her son's big cock and give him a handjob next time and telling him that she could only think of his big hard cock all the time. Yes, that would be probably the right character development for Sophia's nature. Sorry, I always forget what psychological experts, bestselling authors, doctors and professors are romping about here!
The thing is, that many people are completely clueless about how a work on such a game looks like. Why don't he get someone to render? Why don't he get some help for the scenes? Because I don't render the scenes automatically. Just letting it run while sleeping isn't! Before rendering I'm adjusting every single scene! Alone the lighting setting is different with every point of view especially with the style I'm using with my next update! Plus, do you know many amateur render people who have Titan RTX GPUs with 24 GB VRAM, piece price around 3K $? So that my huge scenes can fit? And I can find the godfather of art and it could be useless as long as we're not working in the same room together!Yeah, his is not aware that he can find help for graphics and rendering
Greed is a terrible thing.... source of many evils on this world.
You understand that my scenes are huge with a lot of text and till I share all the files and describe someone on the web what should happen there, what I frequently don't even know myself before not start working with the scene, I could just create it myself! And that all areas where action takes place, only I know about their nature, is the smallest matter. So, I would need to give some stranger the total responsibility of some scenes, and he/she can do whatever they want to with it, doesn't matter if the area and the style looks totally different all of a sudden and won't fit to my dialogues! I also didn't see many people using such huges scene set-ups, btw!
So, I think the matter here is that some people, apart from that they are completely clueless about the work on such an ambitious project, are less worried about a realistic solution to speed up development but that I earn too much money in their opinion, for actually working every day on the game for at least 8 hours per day and spending free time just on fitness, buying groceries, eating and sleeping, what they of course don't understand and can only laugh about! They want that I get less money, so I have to give away some of it doesn't matter if it would speed things up or not.
If in my case it's greed, buddy, then in your case it's envy. And the funny thing is that there are devs who get 10 times more than I and also don't work significantly faster, especially compared to the details and fullness of every scene which just takes more time to create! But nobody is complaining there. The reason is clear why. Only if you get sexual stuff in every update, doesn't matter if it makes sense or not, you are working hard!
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It's possible we see less of them together, yes, because it could be the case that future Alyssa path events will take precedence over future Ellie/Julia events at the house. But it will also likely affect future Sophia/Ellie events which I mentioned and you selectively left out of the quoted post.
It's also not about the point system either, but about possible variables required for future events.
If there is some intimacy between Ellie and Julia, then triggering this event in the code might be what's necessary to continue intimacy between Sophia and Ellie, hence why L&P said it will "lessen opportunities". This would be because, in terms of the story, Sophia sees it and becomes turned on which gives her more taboo thoughts towards her daughter, but not seeing it won't put those thoughts in her head.
The point is that L&P has said that choosing Alyssa will "lessen opportunities" with Ellie and this is likely to refer to intimate, sexual opportunities. Whether this will ultimately affect the chances Sophia and Ellie going all the way is unclear, but it is possible that these missed opportunities might be necessary in terms of variables in order for them to go all the way, hence why those who don't want to risk that not happening are going to have to drop Alyssa.
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If you were going for realistic then that scene was unrealistic to begin with, especially at that point in a game... she shows him tits so he can ejaculate, teenage boy...? But OK, nobody expects War and Peace here. Generally, I like the story and characters.
Explain then why you need more and more time for releases and why you are constantly including new characters and unnecessary plot lines even people are against it, at least most of people on this board?
I you really listen to your supporters, then I must say they are bunch of masochists.
And most of the people like the look of the game, so your focusing on some random comment when most of people are praising graphics of the game looks like playing the victim.
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I feel you're dancing around the issue. Most complaints have nothing to do with how much money you make. Not only that, but if you were faster with the updates, I bet you would make significantly more than you do now. I think the concerns that the game will be left unfinished are reasonable, considering you'll continue to work on it for the next decade according to the revealed development plan. It takes an enormous amount of willpower to work on something for 10+ years, especially when it's an ongoing creative process, porn game or not.
In his situation, which will not change, L&P needs a good software first of all. A good JavaScript programmer would do it in a month. At most.
As an example. A software that puts a number of vertices of a character in contact with other vertices of another character.
With respect to presets, using it as a base is not a bad idea. Could do your own presets and use them later without wasting any more time.
As an example. A software that puts a number of vertices of a character in contact with other vertices of another character.
With respect to presets, using it as a base is not a bad idea. Could do your own presets and use them later without wasting any more time.
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Why are you considering the people on this board to be his supporters? Some of them are, but we really have no information on how many of his patrons frequent this forum. There could be a silent majority that just don't post.
What his patrons have to say on the matter on his Patreon site is a different matter. Since I'm not a patron myself, I don't know, but just judging by the number of his patrons slowly going up, they seem to be happy with him at the moment
There's no need to take as a personal attack or as an offensive act towards you any opinion which is different from the way you see the same topic. And this includes this comment.
Someone is indicating that Sophia's face is terrible in a specific scene? Just simply ask the guy to elaborate on what specifically is making her terrible in that scene. No need to take offense out of this. And if you still don't agree: No problem! At least both of you made an attempt to improve something.
Someone is indicating that the slippers should be closer to the ground? Well, by the fact that you finally modified that scene it means you do agree the guy gave you a good remark. Why complaining about it? Do not take it personally, he just noticed something he recognized as a mistake and highlighted that. And it helped improving your product.
And last but not least: If multiple people are complaining about long development time it means that this is effectively affecting their perception of the product release. It's a feedback, it's important for you as well. Just try having a constructive discussion, there is really no need to aggressively contest their opinion as this will not make them change their mind but only increase their and your frustration.
Don't You think it's exaggeration (even excuse). You can always discuss details about scenes with your colleague(s) and fix them accordingly, iterative approach in development is your friend. Even if, in worst case scenario, you'll find final result unsatisfactory, you'll be able fix it yourself and imho (I admit that I might be wrong here) it would be way faster, than create this scene from the scratch. Moreover it's possible to discover some creative ideas during discussions, two heads sometimes better than one.
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It seems L&P has had a bad day and wants to vent, as I said in a previous post is wasting time and energy in useless discussions, the players adapt to the game and not vice versa, who cares if the slippers are raised off the ground ? We are here because the story and the game are very good (even if we only have two sex scenes and you give us blue balls after each update), a tip for L&P, stop wasting time arguing with people and focus on developing the game that is the only thing that matters, the only people you owe explanations are your Patreon subscribers
Because their intentions weren't to improve the product but to mock the dev, and you can see it in most of their posts here.
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Most patrons/not only his/dont make comments at all on Patreon.Hell some don't even download the games because they are supporting the dev not the game he/she is making.Yesterday one dev reminds me here that I can download the new update of his game.It's so common to me to get updates from here that I am barely checking Patreon.
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I honestly wouldn't even bother replying to the complainers in here, all you going do is further frustrate yourself more by trying to talk it out with them. They never going change their minds and will never quit complaining about the lack of sex scenes and how long it taken, believe me, I have tried explaining to them many times in this thread.
Yeah, it would be nice if the updates were quicker but I would choose quality over quickness myself, think you doing a great job. End of the day, it's your VN, do what you want to do L & P.
what development plan?