- Aug 23, 2020
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I wouldn't say this game is NTR. That acronym gets thrown around too loosely.
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- Jun 26, 2017
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But this isn't your usual NTR grade game. I don't think this is NTR at all.
Maybe cheating should be added, but even so the things that the MC did until now are very mild and you have the good wife route. So i don't think the cheating or NTR tag is needed until we have actual sexual involviment.
- Apr 4, 2020
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- Aug 23, 2020
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Yeah I don't expect his numbers to drop, I'm just curious if he's getting any critical feedback in the comments.
- Oct 4, 2018
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Dude, we're only 38 months in! What's the damn rush?
i know by actual standards it does not but by this forum definition of it it is. So many other games that arent have been labeled with it.
- Jul 20, 2017
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The patrons love the update as far as I know going by posts on his page.
- Nov 14, 2020
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I have now finished the Vicky scene and the prison scene. I enjoyed both as both scenes took Sophia down the route of corruption. Sophia fantasising whilst speaking to Larry feels to me like a big step.
Re Vicky scene in coffee shop/sauna, I am surprised that there was no option as to whether DeShithead (to use your preferred name) comes along or no. The earlier scenes with Vicky seemed to focus more on the Lesbian Temptation route. But this update seemed more for just the Filthy route.
- Apr 4, 2020
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The same happened with Emma's route and Alyssa's route (althought, not as much in Alyssa). For some reason, Emma's route became opposite to Dylan's and Alyssa's to Ellie/Julie's. Well, i couldn't ditch any of the incest pair in my filthy playthrought since Dylan is maybe my favorite from the filthy route and Ellie is... well, Ellie.
Not only that, but even if you choose Emma and Alyssa instead of incest, their routes didn't focus so much in the lesbian side, but more on corruption or another character's development. I'm a bit sad with this, especially with Alyssa since she was the ONE. That girl who ignated the lesbian flame in Sophie's heart.
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- Jul 20, 2017
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Alyssa's next event with Sophia on (playable day 18) should make you very happy
- May 17, 2017
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I think this game is great, might even be one of the best adult games I have played so far. There is a story that leans towards realism and progressing slowly towards Sophia opening up about her sexuality. The renders are amazing and the detail of the renders add a lot to the game, immersion does a lot. I love the concept of this game with a female MC.
But, I think this last update had a few flaws compared to previous updates. It felt a little bit rushed, some mistakes with renders etc (Not by much, holy crap I couldn't do better myself if I tried for a 100 years
). We have had slow progress with Sophia but now she seems open to pretty much everything in this update which makes her feel a little bit off character. But this is probably because he have listened/seen a lot of the people that want it to be more of a porn game.
The biggest problem of all is that this update have taken 111 days to make and what we got was 1/3 of a day. I thought most of us believed this would speed up updates when LP announced that he'd do smaller updates but more frequently. The progress needs to speed up if he's going to continue do shorter updates. I feel like that he is going to lose a lot of patreons if this continues. At the same time I understand him, he might have a job on the side, stressed, family that does not know of his game development which can be hard for them to understand etc. And I mean, who wouldn't want to claim as much money you can from a project like this? But I think he needs to surprise his fans in a positive way, like releasing an update quickly and make their money more worth to back him up monthly.
It feels like he might have "bit off more than he can chew", in other words the game has grown too large with so many different paths and branches. It might get a little bit overwhelming developing this game alone (Atleast I think LP is just one developer). It's going to take years to develop if it continues like this and i'm afraid it will get abandoned.
Long text I know but I just had to let out some thoughts about this game. I will still continue to support this game for as long as I can but I don't want to see it become something bad
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Only time will tell and I hope LP knows what he is doing.
But, I think this last update had a few flaws compared to previous updates. It felt a little bit rushed, some mistakes with renders etc (Not by much, holy crap I couldn't do better myself if I tried for a 100 years
). We have had slow progress with Sophia but now she seems open to pretty much everything in this update which makes her feel a little bit off character. But this is probably because he have listened/seen a lot of the people that want it to be more of a porn game.The biggest problem of all is that this update have taken 111 days to make and what we got was 1/3 of a day. I thought most of us believed this would speed up updates when LP announced that he'd do smaller updates but more frequently. The progress needs to speed up if he's going to continue do shorter updates. I feel like that he is going to lose a lot of patreons if this continues. At the same time I understand him, he might have a job on the side, stressed, family that does not know of his game development which can be hard for them to understand etc. And I mean, who wouldn't want to claim as much money you can from a project like this? But I think he needs to surprise his fans in a positive way, like releasing an update quickly and make their money more worth to back him up monthly.
It feels like he might have "bit off more than he can chew", in other words the game has grown too large with so many different paths and branches. It might get a little bit overwhelming developing this game alone (Atleast I think LP is just one developer). It's going to take years to develop if it continues like this and i'm afraid it will get abandoned.
Long text I know but I just had to let out some thoughts about this game. I will still continue to support this game for as long as I can but I don't want to see it become something bad
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Only time will tell and I hope LP knows what he is doing.
- May 11, 2017
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Judging by the last wave of 10 or 15 reviews almost all of which were 1 star and half of the comments since the update being unhappy players shitting on this update or the game this was a major flop that has disappointed the crowds.
This is not the result of some sort of sudden change in the game. Sophia has not broken character at all. The pacing did not suddenly speed up or slow down. It has been on this trajectory for some time now.
This is not the result of less sex scenes. The opposite is actually true there were actually 3 very sexual scenes in this update.
1) Fucking husband
2) Sexual Fantasy about prisoner (7 renders no animation)
3) Mutual masturbation daughter
This is probably the MOST SEX scene in any update to this date.
This dissatisfaction stems from people playing this game since October 22 2017. That is a little over 3 years of build up... For what? Thousands of renders... THOUSANDS of renders of normal day to day life. If Sophia brushed her teeth, or combed her hair, or got tan, or went for a walk, or picked up groceries... Everything got a render. Rarely one render, often times a group of renders to tell that part of the story. What does it all culminate in? This long road that has been traveled full of swimming and stretching and watching the televeision after having breakfast... What's it all add up to that has people so upset? 7 renders... 7 that is all the renders allocated to the fantasy sex scene, and 0 animations.
It's as if you were watching something charge up and charge up and get more and more energy built up around an explosion. The build up is of nuclear weapon proportions! What is the boom though? Just 1 little stick of dynamite. It's one nice little boom yea sure... Not what was built up to though.
The addition of the new inmate character also only makes things so much worse for character fanbases. There are fanboys for Dylan. There are fanboys for Sam. Dylan first Dylan first no Sam first! Other characters like Aiden even though hated by many still have a fan base. Did any of these guys or other existing guys get any action in today's story? Not a drop. They live in the desert. Liam does not count after the first fuck he already got his. None of them even got a handjob unless you count sophia accidentally touching her son's junk during a tickle match. None of them has even gotten a "Fantasy Sex Scene" yet. This new guy we never met before that is in prison comes along then it's all like he gets that fantasy sex scene first? New guy day 1 huh? Those characters with hundreds of renders and hundreds of lines of dialogue all built up for what? To step aside and let piece of shit inmate get a hold of Sophia's fine ass first!? Come on now... It's OBVIOUS why people are pissed.
That is why people are seething. That is why this thread is full of rage. That is why people are dropping patreon support. A weak sexual explosion when a strong one has been called for coupled with that explosion being with the wrong 2 people. Liam who already got his and nobody gives a shit about ,and the inmate who is on day 1.
Don't get me wrong. I like L&P and I like this game. He, and I have chatted before on a couple of occasions and he is nice guy. I wish him well. One part of me respects that he is doing what is his artistic vision in spite of the crowds demands and has managed to do so for so long. Props for that. Another part of me says "Give the people what they want!" Playing his game has been inspirational in my own game development. Even chatted him up, and got his blessing on tossing Sophia a little cameo to our game. He has always been a perfect gentleman every time we spoke. Seems like a friendly guy. I got no beef with him.
As a newer lesser known developer I know just how difficult making a high quality game is. I work in a team of 2, L&P does it all by himself. We manage to get our first release off with over a thousand renders and 10 animations out on practically no patreon support at all (now 8 patrons and 17 bucks after our release all of which and more goes towards debts incurred while making a game and we are deep in the hole for now) racking up a fair amount of debt in the process... I know the financial griefs behind making a game. We don't work for free. We work for negative money slaves to our game at this point in time.
It can be difficult not to be envious of a man who releases a game with about 1/3 the renders and 0/10 of the animations that we have done in a similar time frame that is making significantly more money than we are. I can understand how some people's eyes would turn green with envy and be like "fuck that guy!" from my position. Not me though, I have spoken with him, and I wish the guy luck ,and hope he gets his supporters back one day, and his fan base eventually becomes happy when he finally decides to deliver with what has been built up for what seems like an eternity. He knows he would make more money if he delivered the sex sooner. He is keeping to his artistic vision in spite of the crowd chanting for something else.
If he keeps doing what he is doing, and my team keeps doing why my team does... I just hope he isn't green with envy when we pass him up on patreon one day. We will get there some day. Our last 9 reviews were 5 stars with 8 patrons, his last 9 reviews were 1 star with 1400+ patrons.
This is not the result of some sort of sudden change in the game. Sophia has not broken character at all. The pacing did not suddenly speed up or slow down. It has been on this trajectory for some time now.
This is not the result of less sex scenes. The opposite is actually true there were actually 3 very sexual scenes in this update.
1) Fucking husband
2) Sexual Fantasy about prisoner (7 renders no animation)
3) Mutual masturbation daughter
This is probably the MOST SEX scene in any update to this date.
This dissatisfaction stems from people playing this game since October 22 2017. That is a little over 3 years of build up... For what? Thousands of renders... THOUSANDS of renders of normal day to day life. If Sophia brushed her teeth, or combed her hair, or got tan, or went for a walk, or picked up groceries... Everything got a render. Rarely one render, often times a group of renders to tell that part of the story. What does it all culminate in? This long road that has been traveled full of swimming and stretching and watching the televeision after having breakfast... What's it all add up to that has people so upset? 7 renders... 7 that is all the renders allocated to the fantasy sex scene, and 0 animations.
It's as if you were watching something charge up and charge up and get more and more energy built up around an explosion. The build up is of nuclear weapon proportions! What is the boom though? Just 1 little stick of dynamite. It's one nice little boom yea sure... Not what was built up to though.
The addition of the new inmate character also only makes things so much worse for character fanbases. There are fanboys for Dylan. There are fanboys for Sam. Dylan first Dylan first no Sam first! Other characters like Aiden even though hated by many still have a fan base. Did any of these guys or other existing guys get any action in today's story? Not a drop. They live in the desert. Liam does not count after the first fuck he already got his. None of them even got a handjob unless you count sophia accidentally touching her son's junk during a tickle match. None of them has even gotten a "Fantasy Sex Scene" yet. This new guy we never met before that is in prison comes along then it's all like he gets that fantasy sex scene first? New guy day 1 huh? Those characters with hundreds of renders and hundreds of lines of dialogue all built up for what? To step aside and let piece of shit inmate get a hold of Sophia's fine ass first!? Come on now... It's OBVIOUS why people are pissed.
That is why people are seething. That is why this thread is full of rage. That is why people are dropping patreon support. A weak sexual explosion when a strong one has been called for coupled with that explosion being with the wrong 2 people. Liam who already got his and nobody gives a shit about ,and the inmate who is on day 1.
Don't get me wrong. I like L&P and I like this game. He, and I have chatted before on a couple of occasions and he is nice guy. I wish him well. One part of me respects that he is doing what is his artistic vision in spite of the crowds demands and has managed to do so for so long. Props for that. Another part of me says "Give the people what they want!" Playing his game has been inspirational in my own game development. Even chatted him up, and got his blessing on tossing Sophia a little cameo to our game. He has always been a perfect gentleman every time we spoke. Seems like a friendly guy. I got no beef with him.
As a newer lesser known developer I know just how difficult making a high quality game is. I work in a team of 2, L&P does it all by himself. We manage to get our first release off with over a thousand renders and 10 animations out on practically no patreon support at all (now 8 patrons and 17 bucks after our release all of which and more goes towards debts incurred while making a game and we are deep in the hole for now) racking up a fair amount of debt in the process... I know the financial griefs behind making a game. We don't work for free. We work for negative money slaves to our game at this point in time.
It can be difficult not to be envious of a man who releases a game with about 1/3 the renders and 0/10 of the animations that we have done in a similar time frame that is making significantly more money than we are. I can understand how some people's eyes would turn green with envy and be like "fuck that guy!" from my position. Not me though, I have spoken with him, and I wish the guy luck ,and hope he gets his supporters back one day, and his fan base eventually becomes happy when he finally decides to deliver with what has been built up for what seems like an eternity. He knows he would make more money if he delivered the sex sooner. He is keeping to his artistic vision in spite of the crowd chanting for something else.
If he keeps doing what he is doing, and my team keeps doing why my team does... I just hope he isn't green with envy when we pass him up on patreon one day. We will get there some day. Our last 9 reviews were 5 stars with 8 patrons, his last 9 reviews were 1 star with 1400+ patrons.
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maybe the worst update ever.
Nothing with son and that's the reason I (and soo much others) play this type of incest games. Marvelous. Just vanilla stupid kinks, thanks but there is pornhub in 60fps for that
Nothing with son and that's the reason I (and soo much others) play this type of incest games. Marvelous. Just vanilla stupid kinks, thanks but there is pornhub in 60fps for that
- Mar 19, 2019
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next time use Bibtoe translator...
Bibtoe translation of this text...
Great art. But, this game sux and is taking way too long to get to the good stuff
- Jul 20, 2019
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That there wasn't an option to leave DeBoyfriend behind is precisely my complaint about the event. And the possibility that Don Morello might not forgive the debt unless you choose for Sophia to fantasise about Larry.
It's starting to appear that in the Morello route, in order to save Sophia's house and marriage, she needs to be completely unfaithful, which is counter-intuitive. And contradictory if you did the Ellie/Julia event. Much like how Dylan being at the Yoga event made no sense if you sent him to boarding school.
I imagine though it'd make perfect sense for the Aiden route, I just wish L&P would put more effort into making sure the other routes made sense as well
You have only 90 $, you have no job what will you do with it ?
-Support the slowest certified porn game on the internet for 400 renders showing a married woman talking to strangers.
-Support a llittle faster porn game
-Buy cyberpunk 2077+expansions +gta5
-Invest in bitcoin
-Invest in Tesla stocks
-Help a needy hungry African boy
-Support an organization for climate change
-Buy a dildo
-Get some weed
-Give it to Elon Musk or bill gates
-Throw it away
Sad truth : Some people here will choose the first option .
Guys please don't get mad at me I'm just joking .
-Support the slowest certified porn game on the internet for 400 renders showing a married woman talking to strangers.
-Support a llittle faster porn game
-Buy cyberpunk 2077+expansions +gta5
-Invest in bitcoin
-Invest in Tesla stocks
-Help a needy hungry African boy
-Support an organization for climate change
-Buy a dildo
-Get some weed
-Give it to Elon Musk or bill gates
-Throw it away
Sad truth : Some people here will choose the first option .
Guys please don't get mad at me I'm just joking .
They shouldn't get made but there are alot of simps for this game out there and if you think about it's ridiculous. I was dumb enough to support him in the first year this game started and has made so much since then
They must all truly be devotees of the slow burn. I took a look at the walkthrough after I downloaded the game but before I played it. Decided not to play. Will wait for the next version. And pray for better things.