BUCCO

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Carl and Patricia will not buy the mansion, as their goal* is to have Sophia and her children with them.
* according to my theory (Carl + Patricia + Sophia + Ellie + Dylan will live together, Lyam's fate uncertain)
It depends on what choices you made and which route you take. my Liam has a loving wife, gorgeous kids, and the sex is improving last it was 6min. and Sophia reaches here and there for some asses and tits, I'm curious about Liam's reaction ;-)
 

Alley_Cat

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Who said that ? I wrote Liam's fate uncertain ;)
Sorry, I thought you were implying that for some reason Liam would mysteriously "disappear". And my point is that he more or less has already, except for the mysterious part.

So far Liam's been pretty chill with what Sophia gets up to, and so far being completely oblivious to Sophia possibly be cheating. I think one reason I'm enjoying the lesbian route so much is that it just doesn't seem to occur to him that Sophia might be fooling around with other women.

But yeah, back to the original point, I don't think Carl would buy the mansion outright either. But he could. I think Carl would more likely act as a guarantor, if he ever found out Liam gambled with the house.
 

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On the other hand, a hard-working man, Liam, who can become CEO without being the owner's son, is portrayed here as a garbage. Liam seems isolated in the family, we have no evidence of love from his children.
Tony, the mob boss is a man of his word, Carl, who inherited and manages a fortune, is a naive.
Am I to understand that being a mobster means having a strong character and being a man of your word? Yeah, right?
 

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The saddest thing in all of this is that when V0.130 is released, some will come and cry because there is no sex (although they know perfectly well that there is no sex ), it ended in 5 min blah blah blah.
Aaah it's sad.
What's sad is that he takes 6 months to develop what should have been a 2 month development cycle and that ends on a 15 minute (at best) playthrough.
Pair that with only having 1 more update this year (at best) which will mean 2 thirds of a day in game in a year and yeah I think people have enough reasons to be disapointed.
 

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One thing that would have been interesting to see is what happened during Liam's night at the casino.
I don't know, Liam is telling and we have a short flashback on the scene in question.

He is addicted to the game okay but it is also said that he plays well at poker.
It surprises me that he lost like that.

speculation of course but:

What if the game had ever been rigged? (after all it's the mafia)
We wildly speculate about that many many pages ago. ;)
I link a post of mine that kinda resume more or less all the things people said and you can go backward from that to see all the other comments.
But yes, there is something fishy there! :unsure:

So, to resume what we know:
  • Liam has a gambling addiction
  • Don approaches and flirts with Sophia at the roulette (because he was struck by her beauty, class etc)
  • Liam tells Sophia he lost at poker and they are in huge debt
  • Don calls Sophia to set up the meeting (unknown how he got the number)
How do you tie together these facts in a storyline?

Scenario 1 - The simpler one
Everything is what it appears to be and logically to expect: Liam did lost at poker, Don just got lucky that the beautiful woman happened to be the wife of his debtor. Mafia has its own way to get the phone numbers of the people ;)

Scenario 2 - A bit of twist but still likely
Don spots Sophia, he is struck and he "sets up" Liam with the poker game so he can have a leverage to pursue his plan with Sophia and Larry.

Scenario 3 - Liam is more involved in the deal than we know
Same as 2, but Don and Liam already had a discussion about the debt after the game and Liam kind of agrees to the deal (at different levels, according to your taste, he could simply agree to the visit, up to offering her as a partial collateral or worse (unlikely...)
After all, Liam was kind of quick at accepting the visiting behind the glass and at encouraging Sophia to do so (nexer ). And guess who gave Don the number...

Scenario 4 - Dark and evil path
Liam was already in debt because of other nights spent at the casino, made a deal with Don involving Sophia as collateral, the casino night nothing happened poker-wise and it served only for Don to agree to the deal after checking out Sophia.
I proposed (maybe others did previously, I didn't check) this as a pure wild speculation but I'm the first to say that's unlikely and as gingersweetgirl pointed out not really in the spirit of the game.
Not to mention that it also creates a problem with the whole storyline as Sophia can also leave the casino with Liam (hzjujk ), what happens to the debts in that case? It could be solved with just a business agreement without getting Sophia involved, but... nah!
 
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Alley_Cat

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Don’t be sorry :cool:, for now I have more questions than answers :unsure::coffee:

I'm enjoying the lesbian route so much too :love: and for the same reason.:sneaky:

To support my theory, who suggested the casino to Liam ?

Liam "Why don't we go to the casino?"
Liam "They say the San Alejo Casino is really high-class! Would you like that?"

They = Carl + Patricia

Question : Was Patricia or Carl aware of Liam’s gambling addiction ? :unsure:
Considering Patricia is likely to have known Liam for at least the time he and Sophia have been married, I would assume if either Carl or Patricia were aware of Liam's gambling problems, it would be her.

But then "they" could also be any of Liam's work colleagues. Or some random on TV. Just depends on how desperately Liam wants to go to the casino, with the presumption he's referring to Carl and Patricia.
 
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Don’t be sorry :cool:, for now I have more questions than answers :unsure::coffee:

I'm enjoying the lesbian route so much too :love: and for the same reason.:sneaky:

To support my theory, who suggested the casino to Liam ?

Liam "Why don't we go to the casino?"
Liam "They say the San Alejo Casino is really high-class! Would you like that?"

They = Carl + Patricia

Question : Was Patricia or Carl aware of Liam’s gambling addiction ? :unsure:
Actually I checked and at the very beginning, coming back from the airport Carl was showing the city from the car and...
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Beside the fact that I don't see a casino on the left but an hospital (as Cold brew said for the airport being 3000m above the sea level, it could be "Carl being Carl", high af... :ROFLMAO:)
He says "Here on the left you'll come to the casino". What?? did he know already??!! :unsure::ROFLMAO: (not a native speaker myself, is it another way to say "here you can find the casino"?)
Anyway not sure that "they = Carl and Patricia", I checked and there's no other mentions of the casino until Liam proposes it to Sophia.
 

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Does anyone have any idea the "restrictions" patreon put on the game?

I asked L&P and does these restrictions include no sex scenes?

Any information?
Patreon doesn't allow incest or sex scenes being shown for characters under 18. So since Dylan, Ellie, Sam and Patricia are at least one, hence L&P taking precautions.

Subscribestar however has none of these restrictions.
 
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So next update with Sam concert will be released in november or december 2021

THIS PART APRIL-MAY 2022
Morning
1) Literature lesson (Aiden's 4th task) + a bonus scene
2) Don Morello (optional)
Noon
1) 2nd side job 3rd day

THIS PART SEPTEMBER-OCTOBER 2022
2) Dylan/Ellie OR: Dylan comes home from the boarding school for the weekend. What will happen here depends on if the "pool chicken fight" on day 10 took place or not!
3) "Coach Sophia"
Afternoon
1) Sophia/Sam

AND LAST PART February-MARCH 2023
2) Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan)
Evening
1) Sophia/Dylan
2) Sophia/Dylan OR: Dylan/Ellie OR: Dylan/Emma

At this pace game will be finished in 2040+ and first sex scenes (not counting liam) in 2028-29. I love this game but man LP you can clearly see that something has to be done to push releases faster. I don't want to tell you what to do but if nothing changes do you see yourself working on this game for another 20 years at this pace (4-5 moths per update). If yes then gl, i support you on patreon and will for some time but 30 yrs to finish this game is a bit much.
I hope you will find a solution to this problem, and like i said im not trying to tell you what to do , i just love story and characters i followed your work since the beggining and this is the best game on this site.
If you think all is good then i can only say "fuck " ,wait and have hope u will finish this amazing game.

GL to you LP

Edit. If u would ask me what to do to push updates faster i would say set a render limit like 600 for example.
Ehm...if Dev reduce the renders number ..it is sure that he is going to cut all the sexual scenes... :ROFLMAO:
 
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Ehm...if Dev reduce the renders number ..it is sure that he is going to cut all the sexual scenes... :ROFLMAO:
It's not so much about reducing the render number as not increasing it. If L&P had stuck to the 450 odd renders we were told this update was going to be around, like he did with the Dylan/Emma event, we could have easily had the update at the end of March. Depending on what he's actually planning for Sam's concert, we might have been able to be playing v.150 now.
 
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