VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

Guys, this is ridiculous! You are beginning to look like old grumpy ladies who are constantly indignant and dissatisfied with everything!
For example, you are in doubt, and I am sure that Sofia will not wear such outfits! Even playing sexual games with someone.

But the question is not what Sofia is wearing, whether she is wearing a bra or not! Whatever she does, no matter how she looks, these are important issues, but still secondary, in such situations, the context is important!

That's why I don't understand you and I can't agree with your categorical attitude!

In different situations, taking into account many factors, the context can justify the most stupid actions, outfits, and so on. And you grab one of the factors and stubbornly assert that there can be no alternative!

You say Liam will be pleasantly surprised to see her dressed and know where she comes from.
Okay, I can live with that

 

[Bane71]

You say Liam will be pleasantly surprised to see her dressed and know where she comes from.
Okay, I can live with that

I was talking a little bit about something else. But in any case, I no longer dare to argue, I give up my attempts to explain my position.
To each his own!

 

[Scarlet56]

I was talking a little bit about something else. But in any case, I no longer dare to argue, I give up my attempts to explain my position.
To each his own!

I think you are right about your explanations but ....

Rather, I think Liam means it like this: "you can wear or not wear whatever you want as long as I'm around."
From there, if Sophia shows up in such an outfit without Liam knowing about it, I think it might get stuck.
Unless in the meantime, Sophia informed Liam that she was going to the concert given by the son of their neighbors (so Sam) with her sister.
But she hasn't told him about the outfit she's wearing.

I do not assert anything but offer this possibility.

 

[maybes4]

If the loader Ivan and his comrades are your favorites, then you should know that they will still appear. Your second favorite, Aiden, is constantly in the game, Sofia performs 12 tasks that he gives her, he has a lot of events with Sofia, in my opinion! Therefore, you have something to discuss here!

For example, the beginning of the next day, Sofia must complete Aiden's 4th task. We have discussed a lot here and have not come to any conclusion that this can be, because the events will take place at school, at a literature lesson.
Do you have any suggestions on this?

Well, i really looking forward the 4th aiden's task, but when i heard it will take place at school, i could foresee it would be boring. In my mind, something outside the school is much hotter, like Sophia has to hang out with aiden as a couple, or go to a party with him as his girlfriend. Im still waiting for the moment he kisses her.
Right now, my eyes are on the Sam event because someone hinted the movers would appear in the bar too. Given that previous inapproriate conversation with sophia, it makes me wonder what he would say if he saw sophia there with a boy her son's age.

I've always defended Aiden & both the blackmail storylines. I've defended them in some depth, if you were to read previous posts. They're not popular here but I was never going to win any popularity contests anyway, so I don't care. I'm only here representing myself & I like blackmail, as long as it's fictional.

Ivan & the movers, (great name for a 60s beat group), I can take or leave.

Aiden deserves more respect, at least than liam. Most every route in the game is about romance, and aiden's route kinda breathe a new life into game, making it balance with an NTR tag

 

[Alley_Cat]

Well, i really looking forward the 4th aiden's task, but when i heard it will take place at school, i could foresee it would be boring. In my mind, something outside the school is much hotter, like Sophia has to hang out with aiden as a couple, or go to a party with him as his girlfriend. Im still waiting for the moment he kisses her.
Right now, my eyes are on the Sam event because someone hinted he would appear in the bar too. Given that previous inapproriate conversation with sophia, it makes me wonder what he would say if he saw sophia there with a boy her son's age.


Aiden deserves more respect, at least than liam. Most every route in the game is about romance, and aiden's route kinda breathe a new life into game, making it balance with an NTR tag

Nope, actually the opposite. Aiden is ruled out of being at Sam's concert.

 

[Atton563]

When I say "Under the influence of the events at the bar" I mean to included everything. Sophia will be under the influence of a, likely, very erotic encounter and that should carry over directly to the event at Andy and Cathy's. Bonus points if Sam drops her off at the apartment and they have a one on one encounter right there in the car. That would set the stage PERFECTLY for the event with Andy and Cathy because Sophia is primed already. If she goes home and changes, she loses a lot of that. Storywise we don't want to give her the opportunity to calm down, we want to keep momentum.

The Problem with Sophia not changing after the event even though it makes sense to go to Cathy's right away is that for people who don't play the Sam route like myself (at least not on my main save) is that L&P would have to render the Cathy event twice to account for the diffrent outfits unless she was planing on wearing that their anyway which I suppose could make sense, but she still wouldn't be "under the influence" since she wasn't at the bar the paceing would be off.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The Problem with Sophia not changing after the event even though it makes sense to go to Cathy's right away is that for people who don't play the Sam route like myself (at least not on my main save) is that L&P would have to render the Cathy event twice to account for the diffrent outfits unless she was planing on wearing that their anyway which I suppose could make sense, but she still wouldn't be "under the influence" since she wasn't at the bar the paceing would be off.

Not at all. I don't play the Sam route either. All that would happen is that for some reason, Sophia decides to wear the romper to the Cathy event.

That said, doing double renders isn't an issue. L&P did it for the first two Aiden tasks.

Also, if the bar is filled with meatheads like Ivan (although I believe he wont be there, since he's only due to return at the end of the game), Sophia is may be on edge enough not to drink. Or only have one. At least so she'll be sober enough that it wont make a difference to those of us not playing the Sam route.

 

[maybes4]

Nope, actually the opposite. Aiden is ruled out of being at Sam's concert.

My bad. I meaned the movers

 

[nexer]

Well, if they think that she is a wound or later she will start spreading her legs for everyone, then I will not be satisfied if Sofia starts dressing like this

I wish when he sees Sophia, Sam would say something like that: Oh, baby, you look so fucking hot
Accordingly to her new style

 

[Alley_Cat]

My bad. I meaned the movers

They're ruled out too. As has been said before, they're not due to return until the very end of the game.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

They're ruled out too. As has been said before, they're not due to return until the very end of the game.

I don't know, that truck in the background seems very deliberate. I still maintain that much of the story is being (re)written on the fly, so it wouldn't shock me if L&P has changed the plan. I'm hoping they are there, not because we need more characters or that I love the movers, but because I think it's a better idea than introducing new characters. If Sophia is going to have the option to have sex with the movers at some point, I'd rather they make occasional cameos instead of showing up once after a long absence. If they aren't potential LIs for Sophia then we really don't need to see them ever again. But then why would they be included on the favorite character poll?

Another way to look at it, I'd rather Sophia runs into Ivan and the movers than meet new characters. Meeting new characters, even if they're one offs that have no future role, would be less rewarding for the audience, and a waste of time for L&P. It's easier for everyone if the movers are there because they already know Sophia and we can skip over the usual banter when people first meet.

 

[nexer]

I don't know, that truck in the background seems very deliberate.

I think it's a custom envs, made by him, piece by piece.
Look at the light pole, the one next to Sam's band, its position is out of place, any car, motorcycle could hit it.
Definitely trucks and motorcycles are intentionally put there and aren't part of a whole, package or scene.

 

[WW_Porn_Star]

The game is huge and tells a great story but there is not much sex lol. Its kinda a let down considering how long it takes to play through the whole story.

 

[hzjujk]

Personally, I think it would help the story if Sophia goes straight from the concert to the event with Cathy, Liam, and Andy. If she goes home and changes, I think the story loses some momentum. Instead, let her go straight to Cathy and Andy's apartment, a little drunk and dressed a little inappropriately; but not so much that it's a problem but enough to cause some tension. This game needs some stakes, and a slightly intoxicated and sexy Sophia could be the impetus for launching the next phase of the Cathy/Andy/Liam/Sophia storyline. If L&P's plan for Cathy and Andy is to make them potential LIs, and perhaps swingers, then let's start moving down that road. Let's not reset Sophia back to zero, sober and dressed conservatively, because that kills and momentum in the story. Let her show up at the apartment under the influence of whatever happens at the concert.

It is possible that this is so necessary in a porn game. In reality, the further Sophia went on the incident with Sam, the more guilty she would feel. Because actually she has no reason to cheat on Liam, at least not at the moment, in my opinion. Please keep in mind that the two of them only had the opportunity to have sex the day before. Driving from Sam to Cathy will definitely not be a pleasant experience. And because of Sophia's guilty conscience, she should actually do everything possible so that Liam and Cathy don't notice anything. And on the contrary, Sam should have a harder time making further progress on the next event. Believe a perpetrator, it is a shitty feeling!

 

[Alley_Cat]

I don't know, that truck in the background seems very deliberate. I still maintain that much of the story is being (re)written on the fly, so it wouldn't shock me if L&P has changed the plan. I'm hoping they are there, not because we need more characters or that I love the movers, but because I think it's a better idea than introducing new characters. If Sophia is going to have the option to have sex with the movers at some point, I'd rather they make occasional cameos instead of showing up once after a long absence. If they aren't potential LIs for Sophia then we really don't need to see them ever again. But then why would they be included on the favorite character poll?

Another way to look at it, I'd rather Sophia runs into Ivan and the movers than meet new characters. Meeting new characters, even if they're one offs that have no future role, would be less rewarding for the audience, and a waste of time for L&P. It's easier for everyone if the movers are there because they already know Sophia and we can skip over the usual banter when people first meet.

She doesn't need to meet anyone. Movers or otherwise. These other characters just need to stand there and make Sophia uncomfortable and on edge.

It would be idiotic for Ivan or the movers will have sex with Sophia. It would make a complete mockery of the build-up characters like Dylan and Sam have had to have, just for a meathead like Ivan to swoop in at the end of the day and claim what may have taken the boys possibly months to achieve.

 

[dr.akhibadge]

100% I have been in favour of time jumps from the beginning.
I would have pitched it that, rather than one month of corruption, it could be one (glorious) summer, with events unfolding over 3-4 months. Much more realistic / plausible IMO.

You want time jump in this game .imagine a single update takes 4 month average for half day . What could be time require for one month for update of game . 360 month around then come after 30 years for playing this fast paced game

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

You want time jump in this game .imagine a single update takes 4 month average for half day . What could be time require for one month for update of game . 360 month around then come after 30 years for playing this fast paced game

I think you're missing Poser's point. The update itself would have the same amount of content, the difference would be that the content would be spread out over days. So there would be various events that would span a week instead of 1 day.

 

[Talcum Powder]

They're ruled out too. As has been said before, they're not due to return until the very end of the game.

I don’t see how they are ruled out - a scene focused on them towards the end of the game does look like it’s in the plans but that doesn’t preclude them from being inserted here peripherally. Plans can change and L&P has shown (and said as much here) time and again he’s working on the fly when it comes to scene generation, that he doesn’t know what’s going to happen on screen when he starts.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Worth wondering: movers at the end of the game? Who is moving where and why?

 

[Atton563]

Worth wondering: movers at the end of the game? Who is moving where and why?

I think the Flithy route ends with divorce and Sophia couldn't afford to live in that house without Liam's income so they are both getting their own places.