VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

LP has said there will be a lesbian sex(ual) scene. Could anyone explain me the difference between a sex scene and a sexual scene? My english is not so rich.

Along the same lines that Sabertooth__ wrote

A sex scene with a male will probably just be foreplay/fondle each other/kiss but no sexual intercourse
A sexual scene with a female will probably be oral/fondle/finger basically the same thing

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

The problem is that if L&P increased the corruption of Sophia slowly and "realistically" (with the suspension of disbelief required that this a porn novel trying to tell the transition from naïve and straight laced housewife to incestual sex in 30 playable days) in the way that many of us loved up to Playable Day 11, then it could well take L&P another 18-20 years to finish this story without help.

For me the above realisation dawned on the build up to and L&P comments on the ever increasing render counts (which he somehow regarded as a good thing) of update v0.130. Froom the comments shared here by Patreon members and L&P's reaction / explanantion posts it seems as if it is now finally dawned even on L&P himself.

So L&P now has a very tricky narrow path where he is trying to accelerate the updates to keep some of the newer Patreon supporters happy, whilst also keeping his more long term fans and supporters happy who liked the slow paced buildup including renders of Sophia's inner dialogues.

Can he give us faster updates with less build up renders without losing what made AWAM special in the first place?

 

[Old Dog]

Can he give us faster updates with less build up renders without losing what made AWAM special in the first place?

No and as far as I am concerned he has already lost what made this game so good and that is a shame and one of the reasons why I am no longer a patron of his

 

[crabboid]

Except when he blocked the players choice concerning Tyler and this could happen again

Am I the only one who liked the Tyler scene?

 

[Ajavrick]

You're wrong about masturbation... masturbation scenes are present in the game... for example, this one... it's a pity that they didn't have sex... and it could be according to the logic of the plot development...

Generally sex means the act of having sex and sexual acts could mean the foreplay and other stuff. But we are not sure of what L&P exactly means by sex scenes. He has listed an abundance of them in the next 3-4 days, but the thing is there hasn't even been a proper handjob scene in the game. So expecting full on sex straight away, seems weird. Maybe by sex he is referring to oral sex and other acts or maybe there is an actual sex scene soon. Nobody really knows

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

I was being sarcastic on the part about Liam but the remorse part with Sophia I would like to see some guilt and thinking about the consequences of her actions could have on her marriage/career and how it could affect her family/friends.
Her actions could devastate the people who mean the most to her and just now it looks like she really doesn't care that much about the lives that she could destroy in her search for pleasure.
I agree with hzjujk that Liam has complete confidence in his wife just now and no I don't think that Liam would forgive his wife,.When the shit hits the fan I hope that Liam takes everything away from Sophia house/kids/career/leaves he penniless and not even Patricia can help her because of the shame Sophia has brought onto the family

Ouch, did an old canine get out of the wrong side of bed this morning??!! That is a bit harsh for Sophia, who has certainly pushed the boundaries of being a loyal and loving housewife so far, but has nt YET crossed the Rubicon. At the end of the day it is OUR choices that determine what Sophia does and thus it would be OUR fault if we devastate the people who mean the most to her.

This is why for a while since update V0.115 that I have felt that it will be Liam's eagerness to sleep with Cathy, even if mutually agreed between the two couples, that will allow Sophia to rationalise that she can also sleep with others. And one that genie is out of the bottle......

I have nt liked the way that the mafia has seemingly shrugged off Liam's debt for so little received in return. That has allowed Liam to get out of that situation having done nothing himself to resolve it. To me Liam is lucky to still have the mansion and not be "sleeping with the fishes"!!

 

[nexer]

The only solution, which I see as realistic, is to collaborate with a professional writer. But one who can, from sentence to sentence, jump from jargon to BBC English.
Creating the scenes should remain his part, but if you have the text already written, IMO, you speed up the process a lot.
The theme of the game being "sensitive", I think the best place to look for him/her are pages like Liberotica ...

 

[crabboid]

I'm sure the answer is no, but I don't suppose that there's some kind of "Reverse Incest Patch", is there? A mod that makes Dylan and Ellie adopted or something? There's potential there, but the blood relation thing ruins it for me.

 

[Old Dog]

I'm sure the answer is no, but I don't suppose that there's some kind of "Reverse Incest Patch", is there? A mod that makes Dylan and Ellie adopted or something? There's potential there, but the blood relation thing ruins it for me.

Refuse any interaction with Ellie/Dylan/Patricia and you are good to go.

 

[Old Dog]

Ouch, did an old canine get out of the wrong side of bed this morning??!! That is a bit harsh for Sophia, who has certainly pushed the boundaries of being a loyal and loving housewife so far, but has nt YET crossed the Rubicon. At the end of the day it is OUR choices that determine what Sophia does and thus it would be OUR fault if we devastate the people who mean the most to her.

This is why for a while since update V0.115 that I have felt that it will be Liam's eagerness to sleep with Cathy, even if mutually agreed between the two couples, that will allow Sophia to rationalise that she can also sleep with others. And one that genie is out of the bottle......

I have nt liked the way that the mafia has seemingly shrugged off Liam's debt for so little received in return. That has allowed Liam to get out of that situation having done nothing himself to resolve it. To me Liam is lucky to still have the mansion and not be "sleeping with the fishes"!!

Reading between the lines concerning Liam/Morello(Yes I also think that Liam got off light)but Liam may get a rude awakening.
Since the GW route is linked to the Filthy wife ending I think some choices will be removed for us

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

No and as far as I am concerned he has already lost what made this game so good and that is a shame and one of the reasons why I am no longer a patron of his

And that I can understand. And as I have said before, given the current frequency of update releases, I for one could nt think of becoming a Patreon, as it just would nt make financial sense.

For me the game is teetering on the brink of what has made this game special. So far, with the exception of the Apostles and Aiden being a bit too brutish in the 3rd task, he just about managed to keep on that fine line of progressing the story and sexual possibilities whilst, barely, sticking with what made the first 11 Playable Days so great.

Yes this last update felt slightly rushed with a few less renders to build up scenes and less effort made on translation so the dialogue was more stilted at times. But if he can continue producing this quality at this rate, and preferably tone down scenes like the Apostles, then as a casual non-paying fan, I can still look forward to future updates. However if Playable Day 12 is just the start of ever increasing rushing and drop in quality, then obviously I would have to agree with your sentiment.

It is a perilous path with precipices on both sides.
-On the one side, if he messes up these shorter updates and gets lost in adding ever more renders to even supposed small updates, then the game will peter out and become abandoned as Patreons would quit and L&P gets ever more disillusioned with 18-20 years to finish the story, and just moves onto other things.
-On the other side, if he rushes to get story told, reducing renders and paying less attention to translation as he tries to move to ever extreme fetishes to keep his Patreons happy, then we would lose the feel of what made this story erotical and special, different to most fap material on this forum.
-And just barely in between there is the middle path where I still hope he can accelerate the updates to get the game finished in maybe 5 years, giving us an accelerating path of sexual scenes and then full penetrative sex whilst still having Sophia and the other characters recognisable to what came before.....

 

[Poser_Voyeur]

Except when he blocked the players choice concerning Tyler and this could happen again

Was Tyler one of the three guys in the club? From memory he got close to fingering Sophia but was stopped by Patricia preventing things going too far. My memory is a bit vague back this far and so am not sure what you mean when L&P blocked the players choice re Tyler.

 

[Old Dog]

Was Tyler one of the three guys in the club? From memory he got close to fingering Sophia but was stopped by Patricia preventing things going too far. My memory is a bit vague back this far and so am not sure what you mean when L&P blocked the players choice re Tyler.

Yes it was Tyler, as they got got caught flagrante delicto by Patricia,I think that is how you say it as it has been a while

 

[oshikuru]

I've never heard of any 18+ year old going to boarding school. Shouldn't he be attending college at that age? As much as L&P wants this to be as realistic as possible, he sometimes misses at basic things.

 

[Old Dog]

I've never heard of any 18+ year old going to boarding school. Shouldn't he be attending college at that age? As much as L&P wants this to be as realistic as possible, he sometimes misses at basic things.

Dylan had to redo a year at school,bad grades or something.
I am sure the apostles are 18 yrs old and have zero knowledge about sex as just about every other pubescent hormone crazy kid( and adults) are chomping at the bit for a piece of Sophia

 

[crabboid]

I've never heard of any 18+ year old going to boarding school. Shouldn't he be attending college at that age? As much as L&P wants this to be as realistic as possible, he sometimes misses at basic things.

L&P's definitely skirting the line a lot, I'm assuming to avoid Patreon giving him the boot. Just based on appearance, and what's going on, I would put Dylan at around 15, Sam at 16 (just got a car), Ellie at 17-19, and the sex ed kids ranging from 12-15. But no, they're all totally 18. I'm honestly surprised that he didn't make Sophia and Liam Dylan and Ellie's landlords.

 

[Old Dog]

L&P's definitely skirting the line a lot, I'm assuming to avoid Patreon giving him the boot. Just based on appearance, and what's going on, I would put Dylan at around 15, Sam at 16 (just got a car), Ellie at 17-19, and the sex ed kids ranging from 12-15. But no, they're all totally 18. I'm honestly surprised that he didn't make Sophia and Liam Dylan and Ellie's landlords.

He did on the game advertised on his Patron page it is called "decisions of life"

 

[crabboid]

He did on the game advertised on his Patron page it is called "decisions of life"

I guess it's a meme at this point, but I've always found the "landlord" thing to be a might bit goofy. I don't know why there's not just some throwaway line saying that they were adopted, or that they're godparents who took them in after their real parents' untimely deaths or something.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I guess it's a meme at this point, but I've always found the "landlord" thing to be a might bit goofy. I don't know why there's not just some throwaway line saying that they were adopted, or that they're godparents who took them in after their real parents' untimely deaths or something.

Landlord, Landlady a bit goofy..... I found lodger was really goofy.

 

[Old Dog]

Landlord, Landlady a bit goofy..... I found lodger was really goofy.

Then we find out that neither child is Liam's and is actually Andy's kids as Sophia was playing a round while dating Liam