Alley_Cat

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I am afraid even getting a PD per year is too little too late.
Even at 2 PD/year the game will still take 9 years to finish. We'd probably need close to 3 PD/year (never going to happen, I know) for the game to be complete within any reasonable time period.
 

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I never said that Ellie will always hate Dylan. I would actually like to see their relationship improve. I just don't see it ending up in a sexual relationship. Especially since if you're playing the Ellie route, she's having far more fun with Jules.

I just believe it will take longer for their relationship to get to amicable levels before the bonus storyline is due to finish on playable day 16. On the bonus storyline route she does attempt to poison him after all.

A handjob at the salon? I don't think that's likely, especially if you consider that for those that played the Alyssa event, Marie hasn't even met Dylan yet. And there's the path where Dylan didn't answer Marie's questions properly.

So considering there's three different versions of the event, I think the event itself will be small, but all setting up for Dylan to be on good terms with Marie, so that in a future event, possibly even on Saturday, then they can get up to mischief. Sophia's going to be out of the house for the museum date after all.
Nope, the handjob would be in the back room. But you are right, I too find this process a bit too extreme at the moment. Especially since Dylan and Marie hardly know each other so far. But the event is not that unlikely. After all, Dylan's best piece already disturbed the yoga event and threatened to break off. Well, it's just a speculation of mine - if I come up with something new, I'll post it and you can then shred it in the air again.
 
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Whatever you wanna call it. :confused:
I don't think it was unrealistic. How I view every scene is "is there any chance of this happening ?" If I get the answer yes I accept the scene. I am not here to try and reject everything I can. If there is a situation which can go either way, I'd rather believe in the side which makes the scene acceptable rather than taking the side that it is not. If there is a scene where I don't even see an ounce of possibility, I'll reject it.

Because even a remote chance of something being possible makes it realistic. And from all the stuff that one sees and hears these days, each and everyday you find something that you would never believe was true but it is.

Also if that part was unbelievable to you, you always have the other two options. They are just as canon as this one. You have options just so you can choose the one that you believe is the closest to realistic. So if you think hiding behind the tub was the best choice, that's your reality.
IMO, this scene could have avoided:
1. Sophia thinks hiding Sam inside the tub is a good idea even if when Liam would come to her.
2. How on earth Sam is still breathing after being submerged in the water to that extent? I mean going by the second picture Sophia could get prosecuted for attempt to murder :D
 

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I agree with your thought Bane71. However, it was the entire sales pitch he threw at the audience. Now he struggles to write the story.

As far as Breasts. I married a 32 D, three kids later a 36 G. Not my fault. We wanted the kids. She got the exact ones she wanted (I aim to please. Happy wife, happy life.) I am quite familiar with the cause. I get to enjoy that view daily. However, I agree with ancienregimele that, for the game, it was an unnecessary alteration. If it all started as Sophia got pregnant with Ellie it would be explainable. Instead it was between a plane ride to San Ajelo and a shower. Just a poor decision on L&P part IMO.
Yes!
I understand you guys! There is no doubt that your words are rational.
But you also understand the developer! After all, whatever he does, he cannot satisfy all requests and meet the tastes, interests and concepts of each of us! In any case, someone will always be dissatisfied with something.

It is much wiser to be condescending and forgive the developer for details that, for whatever reason, we personally do not like.
It is with this approach to AWAM and to the L&P itself that each of us will get more pleasure from the game as a whole, and not just some of its small part.

I think so.
 

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Whatever you wanna call it. :confused:
I don't think it was unrealistic. How I view every scene is "is there any chance of this happening ?" If I get the answer yes I accept the scene. I am not here to try and reject everything I can. If there is a situation which can go either way, I'd rather believe in the side which makes the scene acceptable rather than taking the side that it is not. If there is a scene where I don't even see an ounce of possibility, I'll reject it.

Because even a remote chance of something being possible makes it realistic. And from all the stuff that one sees and hears these days, each and everyday you find something that you would never believe was true but it is.

Also if that part was unbelievable to you, you always have the other two options. They are just as canon as this one. You have options just so you can choose the one that you believe is the closest to realistic. So if you think hiding behind the tub was the best choice, that's your reality.
Personally, I also think it is extremely unlikely that Liam would not notice anything from the person underwater from this perspective. But everyone can judge according to their personal opinion. It was much more important to me to realize that Sophia's reaction to the three different scenarios was also different in intensity. In this context I thought about different consequences for Sam the next day. But since we are starting a "new" game and I see the problems the developer will have with taking over the old saves, I don't think these scenarios will have any influence. Only that Sam picks up Elli may be taken into account later.
 

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The scene with Sam, a modified hot tub with some higher edges and Sophia could have hidden a football team :unsure::cool:
 

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It seems I'm the only one interested in a Liam and Ellie event, xd
Yeah, sure the only guy in the game who is getting laid, lets give him more sexy scenes and with his daughter to top it off. Have they even spoke to each other in the game? Does he even know his daughters name? LOL. Ellie has plenty of choices of who she can hook up with
 

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I.e. The suspension of belief. Or, in this case, optics. Maybe Liam is near sighted and forgot his contacts. Yeah, that's the ticket!
This is just one more scene that shows that (although Sophia is highly academic) she does not think quickly on her feet in social situations. The optimal solution in terms of hiding Sam would be to turn on the jets. Believe me, this would well conceal the submerged Sam from a short, casual inspection of the hot tub. I find Sophia's 'handicap' as the saving grace that allows me to suspend belief in many of the situations or spontaneous interactions she finds herself in.
I find this hot tub discussion has brought out many good points from the contributing members.
Thank you, Jack.
 

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Maybe he can just carry it forward without having to dissolve the effects of any choices. Like I assume you don't play android version. The android version is broken into two parts, atleast the one I play. So all the scenes from v0.130 are in a separate app. But all I need to do is export the saves and then I can play on the new version without losing the impact of any of the Choices. I don't know if L&P knows how to do that. But if he can it will be for the best.
This was sometimes a problem with other developers, especially when they changed their game mechanics. Let's wait and see.
 
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Personally, I also think it is extremely unlikely that Liam would not notice anything from the person underwater from this perspective. But everyone can judge according to their personal opinion. It was much more important to me to realize that Sophia's reaction to the three different scenarios was also different in intensity. In this context I thought about different consequences for Sam the next day. But since we are starting a "new" game and I see the problems the developer will have with taking over the old saves, I don't think these scenarios will have any influence. Only that Sam picks up Elli may be taken into account later.
All your decisions from AWAM1 will be transferred to AWAM2. A last update of AWAM1 will come where you'll be able to generate a .txt file at the end. Then you'll have to copy/paste it to AWAM2 and start a new game.
BTW I search for a Linux tester for this :whistle:
 
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Alley_Cat

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Yeah, sure the only guy in the game who is getting laid, lets give him more sexy scenes and with his daughter to top it off. Have they even spoke to each other in the game? Does he even know his daughters name? LOL. Ellie has plenty of choices of who she can hook up with
Not entirely true. Neil and Amber have sex at least once during the game.

But yeah, I don't see Liam/Ellie working for many of the same reasons as Dylan/Ellie - when Ellie dates guys it's to enhance her reputation. Fucking Liam doesn't do that and really would do the opposite. Especially when she has options like Aaron, Logan and Jules that can. And now with a car Sam is an option too.
 
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t3alqdansam

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Well it was just the holding his breath underwater. That's the first thing you have to practice to actually be able to swim. Or else even a little bit of water can get you to panic. Both of them didn't panic about breath issues in that scene, so I reasonably assume that they didn't have problems with breathing underwater. Also by the end of it they were able to swim well, we also have the scene with Dylan And Amber chicken fight, by then we can see that there is visible improvement and both the boys were comfortable in water. Plus we don't know how long he has practiced holding his breath in past. Another factor that works in his favour is that he is singer, singers practice breath control a lot so that they don't ever run out of it while singing the notes.
As a kid, who used to free dive for fish and held my breath, while swimming, for over two minutes and 30 feet down this idea of yours's is all very nice and unrealistic. Please note. No one starts learning to swim holding their breath under water. Sam did not, none of my kids, I did not. Where you came up with this is crap. Sam had a terrorized reaction mere days ago as he was learning to swim. He plays strings not a trumpet, sax or any other blow that really builds lung capacity. What his air capacity is is totally unknown. Further this is unplanned and he has no idea how long he is down let alone working the opportunity. Being a singer in breathable air is not the same as in unbreathable water. Again I suspend belief. You choose to seek to believe. Fine. Just say that and stop with total unbelievable conjecture. To be honest, I am having to suspend belief to read what you write sometimes.
 
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Alley_Cat

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Can anyones provide save from starting of of 1.30 or end of 1.15
Most of us can. But if you're not specific as to which route you're interested in, you may end up with something like a GW route save, which will get you only the two Cathy events and one of the side jobs for the entire rest of the day.

Even my save would probably be useless to you, since it's lesbian route, and you're asking for the start of .130 and not the end, so presumably you're looking to play the Aiden and Dylan events
 

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Personally, I also think it is extremely unlikely that Liam would not notice anything from the person underwater from this perspective. But everyone can judge according to their personal opinion. It was much more important to me to realize that Sophia's reaction to the three different scenarios was also different in intensity. In this context I thought about different consequences for Sam the next day.
It will be indeed interesting to see if and how the three different scenarios will be taken into account the next day. There are actually two boolean variables that record the 3 choices plus a variable for Sam picking up Ellie for two of these scenarios
Python:
Day19_Liam_sees_Sam_jumping_over_the_wall
day19_Sophia_hid_Sam_in_hot_tub
day19_Sam_picked_up_Ellie_from_the_beach
In a similar way, even for the 3rd task there are 3 different outcomes: one in which she didn't pose as Aphrodite (day19_Sophia_modeled_in_Aphrodite_dress), and then the other two possibilities, whether she let him touch the breast or not (day19_Sophia_accepts_Ares_breast_groper), which results in Aiden revealing it was him or not.
Independently from the personal interest for each story line, I think it will be interesting to see how he is going to manage these different scenarios. Or not: we speculated a bit about Liam and Cathy and what happened in the dressing room but so far it only influenced one dialogue (at least so far).

But since we are starting a "new" game and I see the problems the developer will have with taking over the old saves, I don't think these scenarios will have any influence. Only that Sam picks up Elli may be taken into account later.
One way to go when you start with a "new" version of the game is to directly ask the user about the previous choices every time it is necessary. It is a bit annoying especially if there are many choices involved but it is the relatively simplest way to manage the previous history in the new game. Many games adopted this approach.
I think the other possibility is to start with a short scene overlap from the latest update so that you can still load your save from the 0.150 to have all your history of choices. But for a new player it won't work. So he can even mix the two approaches.
 
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But in the photo the woman has very beautiful breasts, I hope you agree with me?
Yes, I agree & from what we can see of her face she looks stunning, with an absolutely charming smile. Whether her breasts will decrease after the baby is weened depends on a number of circumstances. [If she plays a lot of certain sports could be one factor]. I'm guessing she's in her mid- to late- twenties. I hope she never ends up looking top-heavy by the time she reaches 38 but above all I hope she doesn't suddenly inflate, as though an internal air-bag had been activated. I'll never wish that on any woman, (or man)!
 
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I agree with you that AwAm is turning into just another run of the mill porn/VN game.
AwAm was a great game but it has lost its way and that is sad.
Right. Most of LP's issues go back to never really getting help. Instead of quicker updates he is starting to force some action instead pacing it like he was when he started. There is hope however, but will believe it when I see it.
Its not run of the mill yet, but moving that direction. Dog
 
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