VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[nexer]

Natalie is too young for the BDSM.only L&P knows if she and her boyfriend are into that thing.

Agree, but IMO, Dylan is too young, and virgin, for cockold.

Text-based analysis

Nat has a soft spot for older women, especially if they are also mothers, and that's before she met Sophia. Sophia who, fulfilling the condition, piques her interest.
But the order is this: Nat had a weakness for older women even before she met Sophia.

 

[Old Dog]

Natalie is too young for the BDSM.only L&P knows if she and her boyfriend are into that thing.

There are so many types of BDSM that Nat could easily fit into one.
The last event with Nat showed her controlling Sophia and Sophia submitted to Nat

 

[Old Dog]

There is BDSM. My bet.
Big Q, what fetish will involve Ava Myers? Because if Nathalie is into BDSM


Sorry, RE... please the whole scene. Those 2 glasses of cold water tell other story
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I can see Ava Myers being very strict and will discipline any of her family who break her rules.
So Sophia could be disciplined by Ava for breaking her rules in her house with her kids.

 

[t3alqdansam]

Wait, he's releasing this in events not full sessions? So that would mean that the morning session will take the same amount of time to make as the previous full day? That would mean that it will take him 3 years just to complete this day. ffs, I was told he was going to speed his production up, not extend it

This is new territory. We have no objective data to determine results. However, if the only thing that has changed is going to events and the rest is the same (I.e. L&P working solo) then there is no realistic expectation that the PD will happen any faster. The core problems of production remain unchanged. IF he got a writer and IF he got art help then we should expect changes. Has he made an announcement of his team?

Now here is the kicker. IF he does not have a team and he produces faster, with the same quality, then the naysayers who felt he was milking the last few years will have tremendous ammunition.

 

[Old Dog]

This is new territory. We have no objective data to determine results. However, if the only thing that has changed is going to events and the rest is the same (I.e. L&P working solo) then there is no realistic expectation that the PD will happen any faster. The core problems of production remain unchanged. IF he got a writer and IF he got art help then we should expect changes. Has he made an announcement of his team?

Now here is the kicker. IF he does not have a team and he produces faster, with the same quality, then the naysayers who felt he was milking the last few years will have tremendous ammunition.

Can you really see that much changing concerning updates?
With a team ok it could make a difference but solo whatever we gain(time wise) will be lost on the next update.
L&P really needs to rethink his strategy because at the moment he is like a drowning man gasping for air with no clear way escape route

 

[bayrischman]

Previously he used to update 5% in 3-4 days in CS. Now everyday. So I believe it is x4 faster.

Also there is more than one event.
Aiden
Morello
Bonus Event

Previously he used to update 5% in 3-4 days in CS. Now everyday. So I believe it is x4 faster.

Also there is more than one event.
Aiden
Morello
Bonus Event

sabertooth says he is faster . everyoneknows that is slower again than last time. he needs about 1 tenth of about 3 months now it,s getting ridiculously sabertooth. it takes him 30 months for day 13 at this pace .

 

[VanDarkBalls]

I can see Ava Myers being very strict and will discipline any of her family who break her rules.
So Sophia could be disciplined by Ava for breaking her rules in her house with her kids.

I also think so, there is just a huge scope for the realization of the idea of BDSM, since it is on this route that the most unrealistic plot twists from the point of view of realism are twisted, there you can literally do lessons of good manners for Sofia

 

[bayrischman]

I speak from Facts as I have posted and I have not once said that he is faster than before, please refrain from putting words in my mouth, if you can prove your statement without baseless assumptions such as 3 months. Then reply. I am in no mood to argue.

he makes 5 percent every day. today was 15 percent. so 37 days until it has 2 times 100 percent. then the rest of about 20 days is about 3 weeks of february according to my calculation , so 3 months . i like to be surprised differently.

 

[Sabertooth__]

he makes 5 percent every day. today was 15 percent. so 37 days until it has 2 times 100 percent. then the rest of about 20 days is about 3 weeks of february according to my calculation , so 3 months . i like to be surprised differently.

Tell you what, last time we bet on you saying that there is no way he will complete cs and rs before October ended with you terribly losing. You made claims of a January release, the update was out in November.

Still, let's bookmark this message from you and you do the same for me. We'll talk about it once the update releases. Let's see how well your mathematical calculations hold up this time.

As of now, I don't want to talk about this and I don't want to argue.

 

[neil_ku]

This is new territory. We have no objective data to determine results. However, if the only thing that has changed is going to events and the rest is the same (I.e. L&P working solo) then there is no realistic expectation that the PD will happen any faster. The core problems of production remain unchanged. IF he got a writer and IF he got art help then we should expect changes. Has he made an announcement of his team?

Now here is the kicker. IF he does not have a team and he produces faster, with the same quality, then the naysayers who felt he was milking the last few years will have tremendous ammunition.

+1 on this.
But, I have to say L&P definitely has a thing for numbers. '30' playable days, '12' Aiden Tasks, '10' PD-13 subparts.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Some expert, what's the effect of a glass of cold water directly on a hot pussy?

The steamy event of the update, obviously.

 

[crabboid]

How do you guys kill the time while waiting for updates? I personally jumped back into Virt-a-Mate as I wait for the next Sam Scene.

 

[Old Dog]

How do you guys kill the time while waiting for updates? I personally jumped back into Virtual-a-Mate as I wait for the next Sam Scene.


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I render for another patron and play other VN since I am losing interest in AwAm

 

[xxxorro]

Some expert, what's the effect of a glass of cold water directly on a hot pussy?

Well I think it's really basic common knowledge:

Spoiler: hot pussy and water

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[ancienregimele]

Big Q, what fetish will involve Ava Myers? Because if Nathalie is into BDSM

I wondered about this when she was introduced. BDSM seemed as likely as any other fetish, especially with her views on adherence to strict rules but there are some things which make such a development problematic. Sado-masochism hardly accords with her 17th century puritanical religious outlook, unless it's the old 'punishment is good for your soul....we'll beat the demons out of you' self-serving drivel. There's also the issue of what the apostles have to do with any of this, if it gets underway? Could a sound-proof basement be handy? Will they be present with all their ambiguous ages, or sent to their rooms with no supper?

On the other hand, her daughter has been studying in Japan, where she might have learned the art of shibari, if she was that way inclined. That's assuming Japan has particular significance, (after all she could have been studying in Canada, Barbados, or anywhere). Personally, while I think that shibari is very clever, even artistic, I don't find it erotic at all, (it does nothing for me) but no doubt some fans would enjoy it.

Now, imagine the howls of the morally offended, not to forget the "white knights", if any of the above happens. Think back to the dozens of outraged comments that Aiden & Bennett have inspired & which will increase following the 4th task, (& depressingly, every other task which manages to make it to completion). Will we witness Myers meltdown? If BDSM should occur, I won't be defending it, or posting answering comments, as I don't play the 2nd side job.

Nathalie, however, is a different matter. I will follow her developments with added interest after the last update. Still, I think it's too early to speculate much upon whether a classic porn sub/domme arrangement is being crafted. Really, I hope for something less average.

 

[Talcum Powder]

Tell you what, last time we bet on you saying that there is no way he will complete cs and rs before October ended with you terribly losing. You made claims of a January release, the update was out in November.

Still, let's bookmark this message from you and you do the same for me. We'll talk about it once the update releases. Let's see how well your mathematical calculations hold up this time.

As of now, I don't want to talk about this and I don't want to argue.

It’s early, but I’m thinking second/third week of January at the latest.

 

[Old Dog]

I wondered about this when she was introduced. BDSM seemed as likely as any other fetish, especially with her views on adherence to strict rules but there are some things which make such a development problematic. Sado-masochism hardly accords with her 17th century puritanical religious outlook, unless it's the old 'punishment is good for your soul....we'll beat the demons out of you' self-serving drivel. There's also the issue of what the apostles have to do with any of this, if it gets underway? Could a sound-proof basement be handy? Will they be present with all their ambiguous ages, or sent to their rooms with no supper?

On the other hand, her daughter has been studying in Japan, where she might have learned the art of shibari, if she was that way inclined. That's assuming Japan has particular significance, (after all she could have been studying in Canada, Barbados, or anywhere). Personally, while I think that shibari is very clever, even artistic, I don't find it erotic at all, (it does nothing for me) but no doubt some fans would enjoy it.

Now, imagine the howls of the morally offended, not to forget the "white knights", if any of the above happens. Think back to the dozens of outraged comments that Aiden & Bennett have inspired & which will increase following the 4th task, (& depressingly, every other task which manages to make it to completion). Will we witness Myers meltdown? If BDSM should occur, I won't be defending it, or posting answering comments, as I don't play the 2nd side job.

Nathalie, however, is a different matter. I will follow her developments with added interest after the last update. Still, I think it's too early to speculate much upon whether a classic porn sub/domme arrangement is being crafted. Really, I hope for something less average.

I have the feeling that the apostles are not the main reason for this side job.
Ok students fancying there teacher is nothing new but I get the feeling that we are all missing the point and too much focus is on the children.
The children have started the ball rolling but I don't think that this will go the way people think it will,maybe I am being biased since I deleted the 2nd job after there 2nd meeting

 

[Sabertooth__]

I have the feeling that the apostles are not the main reason for this side job.
Ok students fancying there teacher is nothing new but I get the feeling that we are all missing the point and too much focus is on the children.
The children have started the ball rolling but I don't think that this will go the way people think it will,maybe I am being biased since I deleted the 2nd job after there 2nd meeting

The sister character has to play some big role in this I believe. She has been kept hidden, no face is shown for her and only been mentioned once I guess but still she made it to the character directory. Nathalie's bf has also been mentioned before but was not given a placeholder on character directory, same for Deshawn. He wasn't included until he actually showed up. So this is a bit different from usual. Almost like a hint that she is pre-planned character and is essential to the story

It could be something like the sister coming back, accidentally sees or comes to know of what is happening through her brothers and then it becomes more of a storyline of how the sister deals with Sophia from there onwards.

Though this is just a wild speculation.

 

[Old Dog]

The sister character has to play some big role in this I believe. She has been kept hidden, no face is shown for her and only been mentioned once I guess but still she made it to the character directory. Nathalie's bf has also been mentioned before but was not given a placeholder on character directory, same for Deshawn. He wasn't included until he actually showed up. So this is a bit different from usual. Almost like a hint that she is pre-planned character and is essential to the story

It could be something like the sister coming back, accidentally sees or comes to know of what is happening through her brothers and then it becomes more of a storyline of how the sister deals with Sophia from there onwards.

Though this is just a wild speculation.

Like you mine is also wild speculation but some of the events in the update before last did lead to the Cathy/Andy suggestion of partner swopping as I mentioned before hand.
The 2nd side job just makes no sense to me

 

[hzjujk]

I'm a little confused. You can play the Sam scene without a single Sam dot. I assume that this is a programming bug.
I played the Sam event again just to get my preconceived opinion, Sam the Weasel, confirmed again. I was wrong, Sam is not to blame for the whole plot, only the youthful exuberance and thoughtlessness of a teenager has led to him getting this far. And Sophia's behavior. She allows him, she wants it, she seduces him. In the last Sam event, the foundation stone was laid by Sophia when he asked if she could imagine being with him together in another world. And Sophia answers with "yes". As a teenager (and also as an adult) what would you think if a woman answered "yes" to this question? L&P even lets Sophia refer to it briefly at this event.
So if it is a programming error and you need the full number of points (35) you had your avatar answer "Yes" at the last event as a player and thus started the chain of events.
Sorry Sabertooth__ I've been on your side so far but I've changed my mind. I definitely don't want to start a new discussion !!!!!!!!!!!!