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Kakato

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LMAO. I'm looking forward to the letdown that's going to hit everyone once the update is out. Yeah, the preview is nice, but I stopped overhyping since a long time. Up until now, our expectations were never met when we based ourselves on the previews, no matter how sexy/nice they were. Now, you can disagree with my comment. It's your right and it's OK. We'll talk about it again once the update is out ;)

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darji

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Not the first time you say this, and I've tried to explain to you before that everything in Talcum Powder's graphs is taken into account, but it seems you decided to ignore that. Still doesn't change the fact that L&P once again apparently extended his development time for the entire playable day by possibly up to ~30% if not more, depending on render count for this update and the upcoming ones.

Here's what I had to say about the current progress:


With each passing day, this becomes more and more likely.
Then it should be much higher since creating and rendering is already at 10 percent
 

Alley_Cat

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The expression on Sophia's face in the picture is sad and worried. She is no longer looking forward to the school class. She doesn't enjoy teaching young people anymore. She looks like someone who never believed and never wanted to appear in front of a school class like that. I hope she can do Aiden's job and still keep her dignity.
Of course she's sad and worried. It's just before an Aiden task
LMAO. I'm looking forward to the letdown that's going to hit everyone once the update is out. Yeah, the preview is nice, but I stopped overhyping since a long time. Up until now, our expectations were never met when we based ourselves on the previews, no matter how sexy/nice they were. Now, you can disagree with my comment. It's your right and it's OK. We'll talk about it again once the update is out ;)

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Not entirely true. For the Ellie event I was expecting Ellie and Sophia to get naked. They did, with the added bonus of getting to watch Ellie jill off.

For the Nat event I was just expecting Nat to prance about in her maid outfit. Maybe a discussion about Sophia spying on Nat. Got much more than that.
 

Sabertooth__

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I totally agree with what you are saying. But that was just before PD 12, Not every event was hardly hot before. But every event in PD12 is heating up. All upcoming events are starting to heat up. But two of Dylan's events in PD 12 have been excluded from progress. Except for Dylan's two events in PD 12, All other route events were very hot and made good progress.

But Dylan's path has so far failed to make much progress. Already, That looser Dylan is far behind in progress than minor characters or shota boys. Then my boy Sam's hot tub event will surely make all Dylan's fans sad and bored. Already Dylan's fans have lost some interest in Dylan's path. We already know that Dylan will have no progress until the next 2 to 3 PDs. But until then, do you think almost all Dylan fans won't lose interest in his routes? You may have forgotten that Sam still has an one event on PD 13.;)

In PD 13 we can all see hot scenes only at my boy Sam:love: event, Aiden and 2nd side job events. All the other Dylan events are just milking and blueballing events. And waste events.

There are no romantic and hot scenes in Dylan's path, After Sam's event, we'll have to wait until the next PD14 to see the hot (sights) scenes. OMG that means we all have to wait another year.:unsure::sneaky::(:cry:
I know you are Sam fan. Fine. Ofcourse the only events that weren't erotic or had no progress in your eyes were Dylan events.

Also For The Last Time, People Here Need To Understand That Comparing Progress Based On Who Reached What Point of physical touch in How Many Interactions is stupid. Dylan and Sam struggle to see her boobs which was a walk in the park for Deshawn because he was there in a situation that made it possible. Zac got to see Sophia is really tiny bikini which was so difficult for Dylan and Sam or anyone because he worked at a tanning salon. So what happened in the 2nd side job cannot be used as any basis. She did because the interaction lead to that, it has not lead to that for any of the others.

Personally speaking I see a huge progress in the jogging event, where Sophia willingly let's Dylan massage her butt. She actually feels an attraction towards him which is explicitly mentioned in the narration and she also sees him as more of man than her son for a brief moment. Something no other character achieved.

A mental progress is one that generally does not show initial but has an outburst and things start rolling really fast once they do. And I know the exact reactions of people here that day. Complaining how can there be so much progress in one day, no realising what an outburst of all the repressed emotions could be like.

You don't have any concrete evidence that the next 2-3 PD's will show no progress with Dylan. So unless you do, please refrain from saying it.

You can like Sam as much as you want and I couldn't care less. What will happen with Dylan and Other characters is only known to L&P. So really, rather than dissing another character or the people who like that character, you should only focus on the characters you like and not mention others.
 

sphynks80

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I totally agree with what you are saying. But that was just before PD 12, Not every event was hardly hot before. But every event in PD12 is heating up. All upcoming events are starting to heat up. But two of Dylan's events in PD 12 have been excluded from progress. Except for Dylan's two events in PD 12, All other route events were very hot and made good progress.

But Dylan's path has so far failed to make much progress. Already, That looser Dylan is far behind in progress than minor characters or shota boys. Then my boy Sam's hot tub event will surely make all Dylan's fans sad and bored. Already Dylan's fans have lost some interest in Dylan's path. We already know that Dylan will have no progress until the next 2 to 3 PDs. But until then, do you think almost all Dylan fans won't lose interest in his routes? You may have forgotten that Sam still has an one event on PD 13.;)

In PD 13 we can all see hot scenes only at my boy Sam:love: event, Aiden and 2nd side job events. All the other Dylan events are just milking and blueballing events. And waste events.

There are no romantic and hot scenes in Dylan's path, After Sam's event, we'll have to wait until the next PD14 to see the hot (sights) scenes. OMG that means we all have to wait another year.:unsure::sneaky::(:cry:
Sam has a deadly handicap compared to Dylan in the "competition" with Sophia: he is not related to Sophia. This game makes sense and interest if it awakens in the players a taste for transgression, especially if it is extreme. What more fascinating and mysterious transgression than incest? And between a woman who is still young and attractive and a teenager who is still inexperienced like Dylan? Who is Sam in the end? A kid from the neighborhood. Any one. Always two kilometers behind the "rival" in this competition.
 

sheatfish

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Update 0.150 has been out for a long time, but given the unjustified (exclusively my personal opinion) high popularity of this game, sometimes there is a desire to discuss its individual points. The visual erotic novel begins as if all the participants were just born (exaggerating, but nevertheless). I'll break my post into 2 parts.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
A pretty woman up to 38 years old lived with her husband and children, worked, achieved career growth, raised children, respected and loved her husband ... As an object of sexual interest in the previous city, no one except her husband considered her. This left an imprint on her attitude towards sex. At the beginning of the game, she is presented as a Puritan, although separate sexual activities between wife and husband were allowed (exclusively between wife and husband) (role-playing games - for example).
What happened to a respectable wife and mother, that within just 2 weeks she turns into a depraved woman striving for various sexual experiments, and not with her husband, but completely strangers.
A decrease in the level of its moral principles corresponds to a free fall speed of 9.8 m / s2, and only too slow updates do not allow immediately assessing and covering the situation as a whole.
At the same time, I perfectly understand that the porn universe can explain any absurdities by the fact that this is porn, where everything is possible ...
It's been two weeks for her, and it's been several years for you, Sergey.)))
About middle-aged women, it is for wives and mothers that I will say the following. There is a period, especially when children are already growing up, sometimes, and maybe even very often, I noticed this at my job, women are losing their mind and they want adventures on the side. There are several reasons:
- I'm sick of marriage;
-my husband got me with his problems and assholes;
-children who do not obey;
- fading beauty;
-friends' stories about lovers (often unmarried friends),
-a friend's wedding;
- drinking;
-resort, etc.
And these women are running to do plastic surgery, beauty salons, fitness centers, swimming pools, etc. Where if she is at least slightly cute, she gets attention from outside. And they are ready to give themselves to the first acquaintance for attention, sometimes (even better) to a stranger.
Maybe Sofia lived somewhere in a cold town, where she wore oversize clothes, hiding her charms from the outside eye. And until that day she was happy with marriage, etc. The reasons can always be found.
PS: Actually, our writer is the boss. As he wants, so it will be.
Capitalists always put profit first, and in this industry, the more people talk about a work, the more people know about it.
 

ancienregimele

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I noticed this at my job, women are losing their mind and they want adventures on the side. There are several reasons:
How many women had affairs? Were they all "middle-aged"? That's a very general sweeping statement. Over a long & chequered career I encountered a few people having affairs, certainly. There was no real common denominator & those involved were as varied as the rest of us, as were the motivations concerned. Elements like the menopause, 7-year itch etc., are just trotted out as weak excuses. Straightforward sexual temptation is usually the start point for whatever gender or age the participants are, or in other words, it's about pleasure seeking. I don't believe that particular types, or age groups are more prone to these affairs than others. "Sick of the marriage" is the soundest reason you give.

I also worked with women who looked & dressed as good as Sophia in the latest spoiler (& I mean a lot). They weren't desparate to prove anything, as they didn't really have to & whether they contemplated a fling with a stranger, I've no idea. They never said. If they indeed took part in some of the actions you list, all I can say is that it was working.

L&P ideally should provide some solid reason(s) for Sophia to have an affair or two. At present it's all about her being self-centred & becoming bored with a husband she feels is too absent &/or under-performing. Maybe this will have to be enough but IMO, she wouldn't launch into an affair with her son's friend in the expectation that a 17 year old virgin was going to satisfy her sexually for example! Also, how could Sam support her in the style to which she's become accustomed? Reasons become even harder to find for why she might embark on incestuous, potentially life-destroying liaisons with blood relatives, Again, it has to be about pleasure in the moment & to hell with the consequences.

I will say, however, that I totally agree with your choice of shoes to go with that suit.
 

Sabertooth__

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How many women had affairs? Were they all "middle-aged"? That's a very general sweeping statement. Over a long & chequered career I encountered a few people having affairs, certainly. There was no real common denominator & those involved were as varied as the rest of us, as were the motivations concerned. Elements like the menopause, 7-year itch etc., are just trotted out as weak excuses. Straightforward sexual temptation is usually the start point for whatever gender or age the participants are, or in other words, it's about pleasure seeking. I don't believe that particular types, or age groups are more prone to these affairs than others. "Sick of the marriage" is the soundest reason you give.

I also worked with women who looked & dressed as good as Sophia in the latest spoiler (& I mean a lot). They weren't desparate to prove anything, as they didn't really have to & whether they contemplated a fling with a stranger, I've no idea. They never said. If they indeed took part in some of the actions you list, all I can say is that it was working.

L&P ideally should provide some solid reason(s) for Sophia to have an affair or two. At present it's all about her being self-centred & becoming bored with a husband she feels is too absent &/or under-performing. Maybe this will have to be enough but IMO, she wouldn't launch into an affair with her son's friend in the expectation that a 17 year old virgin was going to satisfy her sexually for example! Also, how could Sam support her in the style to which she's become accustomed? Reasons become even harder to find for why she might embark on incestuous, potentially life-destroying liaisons with blood relatives, Again, it has to be about pleasure in the moment & to hell with the consequences.

I will say, however, that I totally agree with your choice of shoes to go with that suit.
You made a point that I have mentioning here for so long. Sam, Dylan can't really be partners for Sophia. And hence why I have felt that sex should not ensue between them.

It will really complicate things and writing a realistic story from that point onwards is an extremely huge challenge. Especially when L&P can't stop the sexual Interactions from continuing since this is a porn game at the end. He has to continue adding sexual scenes with these characters. To make them logical would require skill I doubt even professional writers might not possess.

She has everything right now and squandering it away for some teenage boys who can't really take care of her, provide for her, is stupid when she has a loving husband like Liam
 

SubtleHustle

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A large number of "garbage" renders, in which the position of bodies, heads, etc. has slightly changed.
This! I noticed this throughout as well. Felt like I was playing a sequel by a well known development company that was recently bought by EA. Fucking hell! Cookie cutter renders slightly changed from the previous as some kind of distraction for walls of text meant to be inner monologue. Nothing wrong with seeing some thought processes from the protagonist, but it gets excessive very quickly.
 
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XTZ Adult Games

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This! I noticed this throughout as well. Felt like I was playing a sequel by a well known development company that was recently bought by EA. Fucking hell! Cookie cutter renders slightly changed from the previous as some kind of distraction for walls of text meant to be inner monologue. Nothing wrong with seeing some thought processes from the protagonist, but it gets excessive very quickly.
As a Dev myself, I can guess (I think) where these renders are coming from, and why.
But first, let me say that I do not think it's from cutting any corners. It's still time consuming to render, and definitely to enter in code.

I did not play this version yet, so I am talking in general about this thought-process.
It usually happens in the bits of the story where the visuals don't change much - the character just talks to someone, or just thinks to self.
It's visually boring, but essential to the story.
So you have to show the text.
Then it's simply a choice between letting the image just stay there, unchanged, while you let the lines role; or do a bit of extra renders - different angles, different character expressions on so on - and put them in.

So it may appear as slacking, but it's actually the better and more professional thing to do.

Again, I did not have the time to play this update yet, but from what I've seen from this game so far, I think this is the case.
So no need to be mad at it :)
 

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM

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the left hand pose is really wrong. says there are socks? but I don't see them, they are usually seen in the toes where they are thickest. in this photo she is wearing a bra, but there will almost certainly be a choice on whether to keep it or take it off.
That and her rock hard nipples. Since he is so addicted to realism, I wonder if he ever saw a nipple being noticeable under a coat + shirt + bra.
 

SubtleHustle

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It's visually boring, but essential to the story.
So you have to show the text.
Yeah, I know it's done to change the scenery while pages of text are to be read through. I might suggest, and this may seem more cookie cutter but less time required, stock facial expression renders for the character changing near their dialog box. I've noticed this in a few VN's. Your eyes will be down there anyway to read, no sense in rendering the whole 720/1080p scene again if there's only an insignificant facial expression change. Of course don't do away with pose changes that may be part of important body language and the like. But balance it out. Otherwise it feels like some extra renders just to pad the change log stats.

But what the fuck do I know, I'm just making suggestions here hoping I'm wrong on my assumption that A) tragedy befalls developer before project is finished B) I'm too old to give a fuck anymore or C) apocalypse.
 

clowns234

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Yeah, I know it's done to change the scenery while pages of text are to be read through. I might suggest, and this may seem more cookie cutter but less time required, stock facial expression renders for the character changing near their dialog box. I've noticed this in a few VN's. Your eyes will be down there anyway to read, no sense in rendering the whole 720/1080p scene again if there's only an insignificant facial expression change. Of course don't do away with pose changes that may be part of important body language and the like. But balance it out. Otherwise it feels like some extra renders just to pad the change log stats.

But what the fuck do I know, I'm just making suggestions here hoping I'm wrong on my assumption that A) tragedy befalls developer before project is finished B) I'm too old to give a fuck anymore or C) apocalypse.
Daz Studio has 'spot rendering' which allows you to select only the facial expression (or hands or whatever) and everything else stays transparent. Then you can overlay the partial render onto the original using PS or Gimp. Saves a ton of rendering time.
 
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