nexer

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No no no, this is the definition of mental gymnastics. Parents in academia don't just snap their fingers, call in some favors, and get you a job. Is there corruption and nepotism in academia, sure, but now we're going to assume that it would be "easy" for her parents to get her a job as a professor? Absolutely not. If that were the case then no kid with parents who are professors would ever struggle to get a job.

Also, let's address the elephant in the room- a college educated woman with college educated parents getting pregnant in her early 20s. As educational attainment increases, the average age for a woman's first birth increases proportionally. The median age at the time of first birth for a woman with a master's degree is 30. There's additional research that I've read elsewhere that women coming from highly educated families will wait even longer- so a woman with a master's degree from uneducated parents may wait until 30; while a woman with a master's degree with parents who also have master's degrees may wait (on median) until she's 32.

The point is that, in order for Sophia to give birth at 21 she would not only have to be incredibly busy in her life but would also shatter statistical trends that have existed for decades.

And yeah, maybe I'm overthinking it, but that isn't my fault. It's a glarring error that a creator would concoct such a story and not overthink it. Clearly L&P thought about this topic, he's clearly an educated person himself. But it's like he only half-assed the work enough to please his kink and didn't bother with all the rest. That lack of attention to detail matters though because it has created continuity issues that are glaring if you stop to think about them at all. And this is a game that wants to attract more than the typical audience only interested in a quick wank/jill.

You could even say that this is just another example of L&P's spotty organizational skills. He had an idea, but didn't really think it all the way through.

There may be different education systems and therefore differences. L&P applies the German reality to the American system, hence the difference.
As for children, I think you are using current statistics and applying them to a reality of 20 years ago. Wrong.
And the picture of the two in the article, Meghan and Harry, is definitely not correct. Harry was looking for a "politically" suitable wife, and Meghan ... a woman with too much ambition. Aside from "Suits," .... :unsure:
 

Alley_Cat

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Sophia's educational background was overexposed. We never needed to know any of those things. Are they interesting? I guess so, but they aren't important in the grand scheme of things. This is a slice of life game, you don't need this level of background info for that style of game. If this were some fantasy type game or a game with an overarching plot, it'd be more relevant.

But continuing this thread of discussion. Sophia is a highly educated woman. Who also said she and Liam did lot's of sexual stuff in those days, obviously as they had 2 kids in a very short timespan.

So, to me, the big ? is how is a sexually expierenced, highly educated woman can be so...I'm not sure of a nice way to say it. But gulible and easily manipulated. I alluded to this in my review from a while ago. Sophia acts like a sheltered and naive person too often. While she is obviously, from her own background lore, is neither of those things.

This is another inconsistency. Mismatching a characters persona with a background that doesn't quite add up. This also bleeds into some of the routes, I assume a person from a wealthy (and thus, I assume, somewhat influential and powerful) family shouldn't be blackmailed so easily. Especailly from people in her own school.
She only gets blackmailed easily because players choose it. I call Aiden a "two-bit tryhard" simply because his attempts at blackmail are so weak. There is no real consequence to refusing his demands, and Sophia is better connected enough that a member of the family can get Dylan into a better school two days after Aiden's demands are made.

And even if with Dylan at boarding school he gets discovered by Aiden and beaten up, what possible reason could Aiden assert that doesn't put him as the instigator?
 
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Developer: Lust & Passion -
Thank you for adding Subscribe star!

I have one more request and suggestion.
We can see that these images have been around for quite some time:
Since these images were posted, the game has moved quite far forward.
In my opinion, it would be great to add a dozen or even a half new images from subsequent updates!
I think this is useful for those who visit the pages of this forum for the first time and get acquainted with the post containing these images.
 

Alley_Cat

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If Sophia were Asian, she would look much younger than she is now. :HideThePain:
Have you played Free Pass? Very similar to AWAM (the dev is even a fan), but with an MC (and dev is) from Myanmar. Even puts out monthly updates about the same size as L&P puts out in about 6 months. And is far friendlier (I mean, even actively promotes fan artists). We've even had to threaten him with kidnapping because he works too hard to please his fans.
 

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I am overwhelmed and amazed by the various intelligent arguments surrounding Sophia's reality status, and how seriously this game is taken. Nothing wrong with that, quite the opposite. It shows once again how L&P has tapped into an area of erotica many recognise as stimulating and made it reachable by way script and imagery. And how it throws opens so many questions and debate.
I'm also highly impressed seeing contributors so resourceful in supplementing their arguments with past data and renders, so quickly and effectively. Also a pity when others revert to defensiveness to protect their ego when realising their rational has been exposed, or they have written something inflammatory, inaccurate or inappropriate. Because it isn't necessary, especially when a sense of camaraderie can exist between contributors on this forum and make it even more creative.
Regards Sophia's "reality status" as a woman with academic achievement, career (presently part-time, even with her qualifications), physical fitness, extraordinary beauty and physique together with family, money, and kids. I come back to my point this is strictly a work of fiction. Few desire, or care about pin-point logical reality regards chronological datelines in a story. Yes it helps authenticate, and it's interesting to speculate and analyse, but for most, frankly not that important except maybe to a statistician or mathematician.
Having said that, exceptional women like Sophia do exist at her age (assuming nearing 40). It's a rare combination of attributes, qualities and advantages, but not totally implausible. To summarise, we specifically admire the fictional character of Sophia directly for being so exceptional, yes, even her attitude toward fidelity. Including strangely, seeing that very sense of fidelity being tested, liberated, and gradually worn down. Sorry but I've never liked the term corrupt, because it implies weakness, and Sophia is far from that.
Regards Sophia's looks, I've been in the company of adult women who have looked at another and observed,
"It's not fair, why is she so slim and pretty? Has a great bust, AND nice legs". As if this combination could never exist. Well, it can.
I've have also known grown women married with kids who are astonishingly naive about sex, how to please their bed-mate, or even familiar with the male anatomy, as surprising as that might sound to some.
While Sophia doesn't fall into that latter category, it does suggest nothing is impossible or implausible regards this story.
 

Ruby Tuesday

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Two exemples: India Summer 46, Julia Ann 52. I give examples of porn stars, obviously. There is physical decay in both of them. My point is: 45+ is ..... on the edge
On the other hand, how old was Kay Parker when she filmed "Taboo"? 36yo
I'm sure those women would be very flattered. (Charmer!)
 
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nexer

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With each generation, people look younger and younger than their years, fitness, cosmetology, hormone replacement therapy
True. Here an exemple. My point is: Sophia to be credible in her role, she needs to be under 40
Skin on the face vs. Skin on the neck 48yo
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Everyone is discussing appearance, age, are you worried that all the female characters almost have boobs, guys have big dicks, abs cubes? Relax and have fun, it's a game
Naturally, there is a lot of embellishment in erotic works, go outside and see how people look in reality, to keep fit like Sofia, you need to fuck in the gym and be a fitness model, go to a good cosmetologist, and not work as a teacher.
Well, in fact, even those who take care of themselves, and older women don't look like anyone, Sofia and Alice, and in general, not a single woman from this game, and the members of all the guys are not as long as a baseball bat, all these assumptions are made for maximum pleasure, that's all
 
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