VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

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On the subject of women retaining their looks up to, and post 40 (only 10 years away from "invisibility" we have just been told!). Is anyone out there who think Sophia's hair needs a dramatic makeover? I realise this is highly sensitive and has probably been discussed before but I'm unaware of conclusions. It's also something I know L&P is particularly protective about, the perfectionist he is.
I'm going to be critical. My belief is Sophia's current just-below-shoulder length, layered, highlighted look is not only passe', but doesn't do her justice, highlight her neck sufficiently, appears an almost cliche' hairstyle chosen by women her age who's looks are already beginning to fade. Reminiscent of women who smoke too many cigarettes accompanied by a croaky voice.
Rarely does she wear it up, plait, or even pony-tail it, except when running, so IMO a shorter, more sophisticated, straighter look would do wonders.
She is, of course very welcome to consult my own hair-stylist on application. But has she even the time?
 
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No educated woman make a child at 20 in the middle of her studying and still study, let alone 2 (well maybe 0.01% of them). You have to bear them (pregnancy) and then you have to take care of them, unless you have a full-time nanny. Doesn't seem to have been the case here.

The game could say the apostles are 20yo or whatever, but physically they look like 14-15. They also acts like little kids, but even if they were sheltered from real world they wouldn't. A 40+yo adult lusting after or masturbating 14yo kids is borderline pedo. Dylan, Sam, Emma and Ellie also looked like little kids in the beginning, at least it was corrected later on. The apostles looking very young is clearly intended.

But in the end, despite the claims of realism from the dev, it's just a fantasy fiction with lots of improbable situations. Except maybe if you play the 100% good wife but it's quite boring then.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
[...] Would it really have been so bad to do something like:
  • Sophia graduated with a Masters degree at the age of 23
  • Sophia conducted biological research and published her work at the age of 25
  • By the time she was 26 she was an adjunct professor at a local community college, and was working on her next research paper
  • Sophia and Liam were married when she turned 27 after she unexpectedly became pregnant with Ellie.
  • Sophia became pregnant with Dylan when she was 29 and she left her job to be a stay-at-home mom.
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Really love your enthusiasm considering this is just a game. Guess we all fell deeply in love with it and therefore our minds wrap around it a lot. It certainly is the case with me. Maybe that's why I both cannot stand these horrible discussions - about age, the speed of his creative process or what should be inside of the game or what should not -and also cannot stay away from this thread too.

Bottom line: You should be a writer. Write a story for me for a beautiful virtual novel. I drop you some $$$. ;)

Moya
 
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You gotta be kidding me, I wrote a whole long response and the damn website broke when I submitted it. All that work lost. What a piece of shit website.

Suffice to say, no I'm not wrong about statistics from 20 years ago. Educational attainment's impact on fertility rates has been long studied and understood. Twenty years ago isn't that long ago for statistics, you wouldn't expect to see a radical difference in something like the median age of a woman's first birth. MAYBE in 2000 the median age for a woman with a graduate degree would be 28 instead of 30, but that's about it. I had all the statistics pulled up, but I'm not going to rewrite my original long message. But these trends are seen in every country and culture, it's the number 1 most telling factor when predicting a woman's fertility rate.

The point I was trying to make in my lost post is that this is something I'm sure L&P was aware of. It would have cost him nothing to simply make Sophia a couple years older and it would have resolved some internal inconsistencies. It's very frustrating for me that he couldn't accept that a 45 year old woman could be sexually desirable, so instead he asks us to do mental gymnastics to accept her age.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
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You gotta be kidding me, I wrote a whole long response and the damn website broke when I submitted it. All that work lost. What a piece of shit website.

Suffice to say, no I'm not wrong about statistics from 20 years ago. Educational attainment's impact on fertility rates has been long studied and understood. Twenty years ago isn't that long ago for statistics, you wouldn't expect to see a radical difference in something like the median age of a woman's first birth. MAYBE in 2000 the median age for a woman with a graduate degree would be 28 instead of 30, but that's about it. I had all the statistics pulled up, but I'm not going to rewrite my original long message. But these trends are seen in every country and culture, it's the number 1 most telling factor when predicting a woman's fertility rate.

The point I was trying to make in my lost post is that this is something I'm sure L&P was aware of. It would have cost him nothing to simply make Sophia a couple years older and it would have resolved some internal inconsistencies. It's very frustrating for me that he couldn't accept that a 45 year old woman could be sexually desirable, so instead he asks us to do mental gymnastics to accept her age.
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Do you think the actual model of Sophia is believable for 45yo? Or it sould be aged a bit if she was 45 instead of 38?
 
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VanDarkBalls said:
When I hear about the age of character, I remind

In 1941, Renato was 13 years old and although the world was at war, nothing ever happened in this sleepy village in Sicily. Until the day he discovered something that would change his life forever... Malna, the beautiful young war widow who was the obsession of every man and the envy of every woman. Because of her, Renato will come to learn all of life's lessons and find himself in places he never could have imagined.

That is, in movies, even many people don't worry about age, and there are sex scenes between the characters, why the fuck should he even worry about the age of the characters in a fucking porn game?


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It is Patreons terms of service. Those are based on the rules of the services they use to be paid. So it all comes down to their business model. Is that easy enough to understand?
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
nexer

You gotta be kidding me, I wrote a whole long response and the damn website broke when I submitted it. All that work lost. What a piece of shit website.

Suffice to say, no I'm not wrong about statistics from 20 years ago. Educational attainment's impact on fertility rates has been long studied and understood. Twenty years ago isn't that long ago for statistics, you wouldn't expect to see a radical difference in something like the median age of a woman's first birth. MAYBE in 2000 the median age for a woman with a graduate degree would be 28 instead of 30, but that's about it. I had all the statistics pulled up, but I'm not going to rewrite my original long message. But these trends are seen in every country and culture, it's the number 1 most telling factor when predicting a woman's fertility rate.

The point I was trying to make in my lost post is that this is something I'm sure L&P was aware of. It would have cost him nothing to simply make Sophia a couple years older and it would have resolved some internal inconsistencies. It's very frustrating for me that he couldn't accept that a 45 year old woman could be sexually desirable, so instead he asks us to do mental gymnastics to accept her age.
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Raquel Welch, Ann Margaret at 80!
 
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You gotta be kidding me, I wrote a whole long response and the damn website broke when I submitted it. All that work lost. What a piece of shit website.

Suffice to say, no I'm not wrong about statistics from 20 years ago. Educational attainment's impact on fertility rates has been long studied and understood. Twenty years ago isn't that long ago for statistics, you wouldn't expect to see a radical difference in something like the median age of a woman's first birth. MAYBE in 2000 the median age for a woman with a graduate degree would be 28 instead of 30, but that's about it. I had all the statistics pulled up, but I'm not going to rewrite my original long message. But these trends are seen in every country and culture, it's the number 1 most telling factor when predicting a woman's fertility rate.

The point I was trying to make in my lost post is that this is something I'm sure L&P was aware of. It would have cost him nothing to simply make Sophia a couple years older and it would have resolved some internal inconsistencies. It's very frustrating for me that he couldn't accept that a 45 year old woman could be sexually desirable, so instead he asks us to do mental gymnastics to accept her age.
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You've experienced "instant karma" firsthand :p :ROFLMAO:.
You did something bad, ... , you cursed me :confused:, ... something you did :ROFLMAO:.

You may be right, but we should also see a comparison between deep America and the rest of the states.
But, we do have a but, Sophia had and has a high sex drive, "numbed" by motherly feeling and lack of temptations. She's a special case, after all.
 
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dolfe67 said:
Do you think the actual model of Sophia is believable for 45yo? Or it sould be aged a bit if she was 45 instead of 38?
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She looks 40ish for me, between 40 and 45, she looks young, no wrinkles but as something in her expression Lust/Tired/im to old for this shit look.

Love it
 
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dolfe67 said:
Do you think the actual model of Sophia is believable for 45yo? Or it sould be aged a bit if she was 45 instead of 38?
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I'm no expert, but having discussed exactly this with an experienced dev (not L&P), apparently it's not straightforward ageing faces (eg. subtle age lines, crows feet eyes) in this media, at least achieving it effectively. Some attempts I've seen have been disastrous, usually turning otherwise normal characters into frightening, withered prunes.
A pity because if done carefully, and combined with make-up, it can greatly increase the allure of a woman a certain age.
 
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