VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.201] [Lust & Passion]

[Sadowdark]

But the reasons why Sophia is being blackmailed. It is hopeless and stupid. Dev should come up with something more original.
And then the dev himself stated that what he had invented about Sophi's blackmailer was hopeless, stupid and illogical.
Suitable for trash .I would like a yakuza member to blackmail my mother, because I don't want to dress sexy anymore, because my mother has a midlife crisis. This is such a childish assumption

 

[ancienregimele]

First novell in 1965 ? Lol. My granfather was a kid. You mean 1865 , Mr Dracula ?

What a f*uck is 'corruption' ? May someone explain to me ?

I'll tell you when you're old enough.

 

[Losersriot]

I'll tell you when you're old enough.

I tell you now, although you young: 'corruption' is a puberty boy's fable.

 

[ancienregimele]

But the reasons why Sophia is being blackmailed. It is hopeless and stupid. Dev should come up with something more original.

That ship has sailed, unless Aiden is able to come up with more. I put forward the idea that Sophia looked at the confidential records to discover more about Bennett, in order to counter his activities & was filmed or otherwise discovered by Aiden. This could have added to his power & tied the two blackmail stories together, as well as being ironic. Aiden would have had the ability to damage her career or even get her dismissed.

L&P is never going to follow the suggestions of pirates, even if they're well-meant.

 

[ancienregimele]

I tell you now, although you young: 'corruption' is a puberty boy's fable.

My first porn story read in 1965, not first novel. I must be the same generation as your grandfather because I was a schoolkid at the time.

 

[Ruby Tuesday]

It depends on your definition of slut, but I bet most people want it. It doesn't mean street whore. For many, a wife cheating on her husband is a slut. If yours were cheating on you, won't you call her a slut?

The term slut applied to women has different interpretations according to each country or culture, I will (regrettably) accept that because I prefer to retain a high opinion of women. Also conditioned by how various cultures genuinely regard and respect their own women, in addition to men on an individual basis.
For example, there are men who regard women with tattoos as sluts, even if they are monogamous. Ditto if they are engaged or married and seen talking or socialising with men, in some cases even being castigated as sluts merely for interacting with men of different culture, let alone forming relationships with them.

Where I come from slut is a derogatory term, and while realising AWAM is just a game fantasy I never believed it was L&P's intention to ultimately paint Sophia as a slut. Also, I am not sure you are correct in assuming most people want to attach this label to Sophia. Nor, with respect, will I get into personal deliberation regards who I may or may not be married to.

As you introduced the word cheating, that's another expression fully open to interpretation and different meaning, if one is sufficiently open minded.
For example, (and this applies to both sexes) is a married man cheating, or being disloyal to the marriage if he sleeps with another woman just one time, or is he cheating if he walks away leaving the wife, kids and responsibilities as many men (and women) do? What's more important, and what's more to do with temporarily bruising the other's ego or confining the other as merely a possession?

 

[Losersriot]

The term slut applied to women has different interpretations according to each country or culture, I will (regrettably) accept that because I prefer to retain a high opinion of women. Also conditioned by how various cultures genuinely regard and respect their own women, in addition to men on an individual basis.
For example, there are men who regard women with tattoos as sluts, even if they are monogamous. Ditto if they are engaged or married and seen talking or socialising with men, in some cases even being castigated as sluts merely for interacting with men of different culture, let alone forming relationships with them.

Where I come from slut is a derogatory term, and while realising AWAM is just a game fantasy I never believed it was L&P's intention to ultimately paint Sophia as a slut. Also, I am not sure you are correct in assuming most people want to attach this label to Sophia. Nor, with respect, will I get into personal deliberation regards who I may or may not be married to.

As you introduced the word cheating, that's another expression fully open to interpretation and different meaning, if one is sufficiently open minded.
For example, (and this applies to both sexes) is a married man cheating, or being disloyal to the marriage if he sleeps with another woman just one time, or is he cheating if he walks away leaving the wife, kids and responsibilities as many men (and women) do? What's more important, and what's more to do with temporarily bruising the other's ego or confining the other as merely a possession?

My culture not lying me about girls. Girls love sex, they love dangerous guys, they love sugar daddies.

 

[derek1957]

and she liked it

Yes, she did.

 

[Ruby Tuesday]

That ship has sailed, unless Aiden is able to come up with more. I put forward the idea that Sophia looked at the confidential records to discover more about Bennett, in order to counter his activities & was filmed or otherwise discovered by Aiden. This could have added to his power & tied the two blackmail stories together, as well as being ironic. Aiden would have had the ability to damage her career or even get her dismissed.

L&P is never going to follow the suggestions of pirates, even if they're well-meant.

My dear friend, the Bennett story line is a lame loser, and doubles the obviously unpopular theme of blackmail. While I don't mind blackmail per se, we definitely don't need TWO blackmails in AWAM, and we don't need a skank like Bennett pissing off Sophia. Hopefully the Principal will catch him with his trousers down with a student and sack him on the spot anyways.
With everything else going on taking valuable render time, it's no wonder L&P took the hint and dropped Bennett. I remember L&P setting up a Patreon vote on this matter, his inclusion to continue was marginal even then.

 

[uniformless]

That ship has sailed, unless Aiden is able to come up with more. I put forward the idea that Sophia looked at the confidential records to discover more about Bennett, in order to counter his activities & was filmed or otherwise discovered by Aiden. This could have added to his power & tied the two blackmail stories together, as well as being ironic. Aiden would have had the ability to damage her career or even get her dismissed.

L&P is never going to follow the suggestions of pirates, even if they're well-meant.

This. This would have been way better than the actual reason of blackmail. Using threat of violence toward her family isn't really sexy and I can't imagine any second a mom protecting her son could find any pleasure with the blackmail from a brat threatening to hurt him.

"If I don't do what he's asking me, he'll hurt my son! But these tasks make me so wet!"...nah.

 

[dolfe67]

Using threat of violence toward her family isn't really sexy

Because any other threat is sexy? Blackmail is not sexy per se, that's the tasks which are (for us the viewers).

 

[ancienregimele]

My dear friend, the Bennett story line is a lame loser, and doubles the obviously unpopular theme of blackmail. While I don't mind blackmail per se, we definitely don't need TWO blackmails in AWAM, and we don't need a skank like Bennett pissing off Sophia. Hopefully the Principal will catch him with his trousers down with a student and sack him on the spot anyways.
With everything else going on taking valuable render time, it's no wonder L&P took the hint and dropped Bennett. I remember L&P setting up a Patreon vote on this matter, his inclusion to continue was marginal even then.

Yet we've got three or more potential avenues of incest. What would happen if one was sidelined.... I wonder? Still, I don't see it as a competition, just as I don't subscribe to the 'if Sam did this, Dylan should have that' train of thought. Life's never like that. I may be in a minority on this thread blackmail-wise but I expect there are more followers than meet the eye & possibly quite a few on Patreon. Aiden's popularity indicates this, assisted no doubt by the fact that Sophia actually does things, sexually charged things, when he's around.

One thing that I forgot to mention that has gone wrong, IMO, is the sheer proliferation of storylines. Every suggestion that they be dropped or fused is met with the usual silence.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

Where I come from slut is a derogatory term, and while realising AWAM is just a game fantasy I never believed it was L&P's intention to ultimately paint Sophia as a slut. Also, I am not sure you are correct in assuming most people want to attach this label to Sophia. Nor, with respect, will I get into personal deliberation regards who I may or may not be married to.

I think it was his intention to turn her into a "Slut" depending on what path the reader takes in the novel. If you look at the title of the game, The hint is right there.



Good Wife?, Somewhere in-between?, Bad Ending? (Slut, Whore, Slave, Etc...) L&P uses GTA as one of many model references for his novel. And if you're not familiar with the game or don't play games in general, you should look it up on youtube as this is one of his motivations for his novel.

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[ancienregimele]

I think it was his intention to turn her into a "Slut" depending on what path the reader takes in the novel. If you look at the title of the game, The hint is right there.

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I always thought that the by-line referred to copulating with her own son but who knows?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I always thought that the by-line referred to copulating with her own son but who knows?

Why would you only think that? Consider how many paths there are in the novel.

 

[globsis]

My culture not lying me about girls. Girls love sex, they love dangerous guys, they love sugar daddies.

Correct me if I misunderstood.
Girls fuck with bandits for money?

 

[Ruby Tuesday]

Yet we've got three or more potential avenues of incest. What would happen if one was sidelined.... I wonder? Still, I don't see it as a competition, just as I don't subscribe to the 'if Sam did this, Dylan should have that' train of thought. Life's never like that. I may be in a minority on this thread blackmail-wise but I expect there are more followers than meet the eye & possibly quite a few on Patreon. Aiden's popularity indicates this, assisted no doubt by the fact that Sophia actually does things, sexually charged things, when he's around.

One thing that I forgot to mention that has gone wrong, IMO, is the sheer proliferation of storylines. Every suggestion that they be dropped or fused is met with the usual silence.

I entirely agree, but despite the blackmail protestors (and I'm not one of them) I don't think we represent a minority.
Regards Bennett, I merely thought the...
"I'll continue to give your son bad history marks unless you sleep with me" Sophia blackmail story line feeble, naive, crass. That's all.
Also like you, any portrayal of incest in AWAM or any game, I find abhorrent, even in a fictional sense.

 

[Losersriot]

Correct me if I misunderstood.
Girls fuck with bandits for money?

Girls fuck withdangerous guys because its funny and cool. They fuck sugar daddy because it like... boys want sugar cuguar mommy. Psichology.

 

[uniformless]

Because any other threat is sexy? Blackmail is not sexy per se, that's the tasks which are (for us the viewers).

Seem everyone who like Aiden's tasks seem care about the visual and forgive the rest. Nobody seem to care how a mom could be turned on by a guy using threat of violence toward her family. This is really the flaw of this blackmail and I find it really lazy. Remember the title of the game? A wife AND mother. You can't erase the mother side of Sophia. Maybe a blackmail which would only have consequence toward Sophia could let her change her mind about what is really important for her and finally give in the lust.
But the actual blackmail is a direct attack to her family. I don't see how Sophia character could have a change of heart after this. Maybe as a wife, not as a mother.

 

[globsis]

Girls fuck withdangerous guys because its funny and cool. They fuck sugar daddy because it like... boys want sugar cuguar mommy. Psichology.

Strange... The psychology professor said that it is in the nature of a woman to take care of her offspring. Accordingly, the "daddy" is most often a person with a stable position in society and a stable income. The girl is attracted by this alignment - most often she looks at her peers (who do not have stability and guarantees to ensure the survival of offspring). Bandits and criminals are like peacocks - bright and shiny. Their position in society and money is a temporary phenomenon. They attract girls - like a bright toy of a child. You're right about that - it's fun with them - for the time being - then everything is deplorable.